Master KSU Butthurt About Being Passed Over Eventually Thread

[chum1]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8596713&categoryid=2378529

brad saying we're mumped unless we get style points

I think he said that we can't look like crap while Oregon looks dominating without risking the loss of some votes.  Sounds reasonable to me.

[SleepFighter]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8596713&categoryid=2378529

brad saying we're mumped unless we get style points

He doesn't know anything one way or the other.

[Katpappy]

Why do people think ND will go to Sugar?

The 2013 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl is a postseason college football bowl game played on Thursday, January 3, 2013 at University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale, Arizona. It will match the Big 12 Champion against the No. 1 BCS at-large selection.

If ND is 12-0 they are going to the Fiesta.

ESPN used that talking point when they matched us up with ND.  A lot of dumb asses in this thread. 

[MixBerryCrunch]

I dont give a rough ridin' crap who we would play in some shitty consolation bowl. If we get screwed out of the MNC I'm taking out everyone involved in the BCS and Chip Kelly. 

[Katpappy]

I dont give a rough ridin' crap who we would play in some shitty consolation bowl. If we get screwed out of the MNC I'm taking out everyone involved in the BCS and Chip Kelly. 

Best post in this thread. 

[MixBerryCrunch]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8596713&categoryid=2378529

brad saying we're mumped unless we get style points

I think he said that we can't look like crap while Oregon looks dominating without risking the loss of some votes.  Sounds reasonable to me.

Man KC you have the most negative outlook on everything. He didn't even come close to saying we're screwed. He just said what we already know, which is we have to knock the crap out of all the pud teams left on our schedule. Which is also what Oregon will have to do to not lose votes to us.

[eastcat]

Why do people think ND will go to Sugar?

The 2013 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl is a postseason college football bowl game played on Thursday, January 3, 2013 at University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale, Arizona. It will match the Big 12 Champion against the No. 1 BCS at-large selection.

If ND is 12-0 they are going to the Fiesta.

ESPN used that talking point when they matched us up with ND.  A lot of dumb asses in this thread. 

ND gets the Big-East automatic bid. Louisville gets the at-large bid.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I can understand why the Sugar or Rose Bowl would take Notre Dame. What I can't understand is why you guys think the Fiesta would take Louisville over whatever SEC or Pac 12 team gets left out by the Irish.

[Rage Against the McKee]

yeah, the rose bowl is going to pass on an undefeated notre dame team to take oregon st.

An undefeated Notre Dame would put us in the championship game, so we are talking about a 1 or 2 loss Notre Dame in this scenario.

[stunted]

I wonder what is % both Alabama and Oregon finish undefeated. It's low for 4 teams but I'd guess it being a bit higher for 2.

[KITNfury]

What percentage of the 2nd place votes does Oregon have? They won't ever pass us in the computers so we just need to basically split the second place votes. Just curious how much we need to steal.

[CatsFan_58]

What percentage of the 2nd place votes does Oregon have? They won't ever pass us in the computers so we just need to basically split the second place votes. Just curious how much we need to steal.

We are 36 points behind Oregon in the AP. 29 points behind in the Coaches... Some perspective, we are 67 and 81 points up on ND in the respective polls. The gaps between Oregon and us are two of the smallest between consecutively ranked teams. I am starting to feel better about this, guys.

[CatsFan_58]

Something else I was thinking about would be the computer rankings after a ND loss. They are ahead of us in all but 2 computer polls. An ND loss would surely boost us. I know the human polls count for more but a ND loss may not be all too bad, at least from that perspective. Thoughts?

[steve dave]

my thought is that you are very wrong

[CatsFan_58]

Our computer ranking would be boosted... My point was it would not be quite as bad as some on here think.

[slobber]

Our computer ranking would be boosted... My point was it would not be quite as bad as some on here think.

I think what you are missing is that if it is just a little bad, then it is really bad. If ND loses, it would be a little bad (which means we'd be screwed).

[KITNfury]

What percentage of the 2nd place votes does Oregon have? They won't ever pass us in the computers so we just need to basically split the second place votes. Just curious how much we need to steal.

We are 36 points behind Oregon in the AP. 29 points behind in the Coaches... Some perspective, we are 67 and 81 points up on ND in the respective polls. The gaps between Oregon and us are two of the smallest between consecutively ranked teams. I am starting to feel better about this, guys.

out of how many. For instance, if Oregon is getting 2/3 of the second place votes, all we need is to steal 16% (although probably less) and we will stay at #2 because they aren't passing us in the computers. One little faulted OB their part and we keep rolling might be enough. Definitely need UT to win out and we steam roll them. Seriously need to beat them by as many as possible.

[Institutional Control]

So, if we finish undefeated, and don't play in the NCG.  who do we play in the Fiesta?  we won't be playing notre dame, since the sugar bowl or rose bowl will be picking them after losing their selections to the NCG.

If two bowls lose host teams to the NCG, each bowl will get a replacement pick before any other selections are made. In such case, the bowl losing the No. 1 team gets the first replacement pick, and the bowl losing the No. 2 team gets the second replacement pick

IF we go to the fiesta bowl we will play louisville

IF

Louisville would be in the orange though, so not them

Oklahoma and FSU would be in the orange. Louisville would be in the fiesta. 

ok, thanks for the shitty news.  we would play rough ridin' big east champion louisville.

If this happens I might explode.

[Belvis Noland]

Something else I was thinking about would be the computer rankings after a ND loss. They are ahead of us in all but 2 computer polls. An ND loss would surely boost us. I know the human polls count for more but a ND loss may not be all too bad, at least from that perspective. Thoughts?

ND is ahead of KSU in 4 of the computer polls. 
ND is ahead of Oregon in 6 of the computer polls.

So, while a ND loss would boost us in the computer polls, it would be an even greater boost for Oregon. 

[Stevesie60]

Something else I was thinking about would be the computer rankings after a ND loss. They are ahead of us in all but 2 computer polls. An ND loss would surely boost us. I know the human polls count for more but a ND loss may not be all too bad, at least from that perspective. Thoughts?

ND is ahead of KSU in 4 of the computer polls. 
ND is ahead of Oregon in 6 of the computer polls.

So, while a ND loss would boost us in the computer polls, it would be an even greater boost for Oregon. 

And ND will drop behind us in at least a couple, if not all, of the computer polls even if they win out. But will most likely stay in front of Oregon.

[Super PurpleCat]

 

[Belvis Noland]

ND is ahead of KSU in 4 of the computer polls. 
ND is ahead of Oregon in 6 of the computer polls.

So, while a ND loss would boost us in the computer polls, it would be an even greater boost for Oregon. 

And ND will drop behind us in at least a couple, if not all, of the computer polls even if they win out. But will most likely stay in front of Oregon.
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Yep.  We also need Georgia and Florida to keep winning, as they too are ranked ahead of Oregon in some of the computers (Georgia - 4 polls), (Florida - 1 poll). 

[michigancat]

Something else I was thinking about would be the computer rankings after a ND loss. They are ahead of us in all but 2 computer polls. An ND loss would surely boost us. I know the human polls count for more but a ND loss may not be all too bad, at least from that perspective. Thoughts?

ND is ahead of KSU in 4 of the computer polls. 
ND is ahead of Oregon in 6 of the computer polls.

So, while a ND loss would boost us in the computer polls, it would be an even greater boost for Oregon. 

And ND will drop behind us in at least a couple, if not all, of the computer polls even if they win out. But will most likely stay in front of Oregon.

Don't forget that we will pick up quite a few human third place votes that were going to ND. I'm guessing our boost there would come close to whatever margin Oregon would gain from computers.

[AbeFroman]

ND is ahead of KSU in 4 of the computer polls. 
ND is ahead of Oregon in 6 of the computer polls.

So, while a ND loss would boost us in the computer polls, it would be an even greater boost for Oregon. 

And ND will drop behind us in at least a couple, if not all, of the computer polls even if they win out. But will most likely stay in front of Oregon.


Yep.  We also need Georgia and Florida to keep winning, as they too are ranked ahead of Oregon in some of the computers (Georgia - 4 polls), (Florida - 1 poll).

Shouldn't be a problem, Georgia plays Auburn, some garbage school, then Ga Tech before the SEC title game
Florida also has two pud teams but then Florida State.
Although not sure how playing these shitty teams will impact their computer stats.

[superchops70]

We need to get back ahead of ND in the computers.  That's where all of the ground was lost with respect to Oregon.  It seems like at this point in the season, it has more to do with how your past opponents faired than the team you actually played.  Hopefully, our past opponents will have a much better week.