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Re: Schemes vs ISU
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2012, 09:28:30 PM »
I think KSU should stack the box and make Barnett make plays through the air. If you are getting burned than I think KSU should blitz because the o-line did have some problems picking it up in the tech game.

I say KSU just has to hold the football and wear down the ISU defense. ISU will play a lot of d-line so if you can pound it early and take the game out of reach it will help. I wouldn't count on the power running game being there in the 4th quarter if the game is close. I am a little suspect of our DBs since they are small but they seem to cover well and play physical.


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Re: Schemes vs ISU
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2012, 09:29:30 PM »
Scheme: show up, completely dominate weird/loser program, get the eff out of town before their unbearable stink takes hold

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Re: Schemes vs ISU
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2012, 09:48:50 PM »
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I wouldn't count on the power running game being there in the 4th quarter if the game is close.


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Re: Schemes vs ISU
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2012, 09:56:50 PM »
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I wouldn't count on the power running game being there in the 4th quarter if the game is close.


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Well, we did only average 5 yards per carry in the 4th quarter in Norman.

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Re: Schemes vs ISU
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2012, 10:05:10 PM »
how deep is the ISU defense?  I mean they've only played TTU and TCU and were racked with yards.  I wonder if their inability to close out points would be a factor.  If ISU gets worn down, how many players deep can they go?  I would suspect that KSU has a better ability to close out points than TTU who is about to swap QBs or TCU who had their QB drop into rehab.
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Re: Schemes vs ISU
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2012, 10:27:47 PM »
how deep is the ISU defense?  I mean they've only played TTU and TCU and were racked with yards.  I wonder if their inability to close out points would be a factor.  If ISU gets worn down, how many players deep can they go?  I would suspect that KSU has a better ability to close out points than TTU who is about to swap QBs or TCU who had their QB drop into rehab.

Part of the reason in giving up so many yards is due to time of possession. If you look at both the TT and TCU games they both had the ball almost 10 minutes more than ISU. ISU was able to get some quick scores against TCU because of turnovers but the offense does go through times when they have trouble moving the ball. It is pretty hard to discuss the differences between games since Jantz started one and Barnett started the other. Last year the offense was able to move the ball a little more effectively with Barnett or at least not go 3 and out most of the time.

Our line is pretty deep. There might not be any big stars on the line other than McDonough but quite a bit are rotated in and have played. Knott and Klein never come out of the game but they are pretty solid players. Miller is a promising LB for the future. There isn't that much rotation for DBs as there is some drop off. Keep in mind that in the last 2 games that the defense has been on the field for 35 minutes.

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Re: Schemes vs ISU
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2012, 10:49:04 PM »
how deep is the ISU defense?  I mean they've only played TTU and TCU and were racked with yards.  I wonder if their inability to close out points would be a factor.  If ISU gets worn down, how many players deep can they go?  I would suspect that KSU has a better ability to close out points than TTU who is about to swap QBs or TCU who had their QB drop into rehab.

Part of the reason in giving up so many yards is due to time of possession. If you look at both the TT and TCU games they both had the ball almost 10 minutes more than ISU. ISU was able to get some quick scores against TCU because of turnovers but the offense does go through times when they have trouble moving the ball. It is pretty hard to discuss the differences between games since Jantz started one and Barnett started the other. Last year the offense was able to move the ball a little more effectively with Barnett or at least not go 3 and out most of the time.

Our line is pretty deep. There might not be any big stars on the line other than McDonough but quite a bit are rotated in and have played. Knott and Klein never come out of the game but they are pretty solid players. Miller is a promising LB for the future. There isn't that much rotation for DBs as there is some drop off. Keep in mind that in the last 2 games that the defense has been on the field for 35 minutes.

umm... that might be a problem for you guys against a Snyder coached offense? :dunno:
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Re: Schemes vs ISU
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2012, 11:07:45 PM »
umm... that might be a problem for you guys against a Snyder coached offense? :dunno:

The bigger problem is turning the ball over. If ISU can limit turnovers that will help quite a bit and if Barnett can move the ball a little more consistently that will help also.

An ISU win usually isn't a dominating played perfectly played game. It is usually one filled with mistakes and some lucky breaks. ISU is usually their own worst enemy in most games. I understand that this is the complete opposite of Snyder football and if KSU doesn't turn over the football they will probably win.


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Re: Schemes vs ISU
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2012, 11:23:36 PM »
FYI, Iowa State is not good at football. It better rough ridin' pour and tornado because kstate is vastly superior in all aspects.  Iowa State is the same as Kansas State the same way Buffalo is the same as NYC
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