Big 12 TV contract

[CyberToothCat]

I've noticed all year that the Big 12 is getting almost no play on the ESPN networks.  We've had some really big games this year, and they've  almost all been on one of the Fox networks.

Going through the composite conference schedule and looking at who broadcasted what games, I see the following Big 12 games were on ABC/ESPN:
UVA at TCU
OU at TT

That's it.  There have been a couple of road noncon games on ESPN, but those don't count as part of the Big 12's TV package because they were road games at some other conference.  (Texas at Mississippi, Baylor at UL-Monroe)

According to the Big 12 news release about a month ago when the contract was signed, ABC/ESPN is obligated to televise 19 Big 12 games per year thru 2015 (and then 23 games per year starting in 2016).  There are only 8 weekends left in the season and ABC/ESPN still needs to pick up 17 games, so that means we're going to see a minimum of two Big 12 games on ESPN every week for the rest of the year.  If K-State can keep winning, I really like our chances to cash in on that and get a bunch of appearances on the college football mothership.  The more ESPN exposure we can get, the better IMO.  I like the Fox package, but ESPN has an entire media empire built around promoting the teams they broadcast and they're going to spend a lot of time broadcasting the Big 12 the rest of the year.

[Shacks]

I hate being on Fox or FX because of how many rough ridin' commercial breaks they have.  They treat it like the NFL.  Touchdown, TV timeout, kickoff, TV timeout should be illegal.  Seems like games broadcast by ESPN have a lot less commercial breaks.

[Stevesie60]

Should help our chances for Gameday!!!

[Panjandrum]

I'd rather be on broadcast Fox.

Which we'll be three times this year. 

KSU/UT will most likely be on ABC as well if we keep winning.  The only other game they'll have that day is the ACC title game.

If we keep winning, we'll be on Fox and ABC plenty of times.

Also, I think you have to count games on the LHN as ESPN games.  I think that's a part of the deal.

Now that we're into full conference play, we'll start seeing two games a week on ABC/ESPN.

[MadCat]

I heard there are no evening big 10 games after October.  Perhaps espn/abc will pick up big 12 games then.

[ChiComCat]

I heard there are no evening big 10 games after October.  Perhaps espn/abc will pick up big 12 games then.

Because the Big 10 planned it that way or because nobody will want to put that trash conference in prime time

[eastcat]

I heard there are no evening big 10 games after October.  Perhaps espn/abc will pick up big 12 games then.

Because the Big 10 planned it that way or because nobody will want to put that trash conference in prime time

Some Big-10 schools don't have lights to play at night.

I'm not joking.

[MadCat]

I heard there are no evening big 10 games after October.  Perhaps espn/abc will pick up big 12 games then.

Because the Big 10 planned it that way or because nobody will want to put that trash conference in prime time

I didn't get a reason... I thought maybe due to weather-related fan safety concerns.

[TheHamburglar]

?  Every Big 12 controlled football game.
?  ABC/ESPN: 19 games per year thru 2015, increasing to 23 games annually in 2016 (minimum 13-15 full national exposures via ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU or in combination with reverse mirror); maximum four-five games on ESPNU.
?  FOX: Approximately 38 games with minimum of six contests annually on FOX broadcast and six games on a national cable outlet (see F/X).
?  Member Retained Game: One member-retained game, which must be carried on a FOX platform if returned.
?  Television partners have a maximum four six-day picks between them per season.
?  Minimum four Thursday games each season (including Labor Day weekend and Thanksgiving Day); and one Labor Day Sunday appearance.
?  Maximum of four games scheduled for 8:15 p.m. local time starts per season with the following restrictions: no program required to play more than twice; host more than once; play consecutive weekends; and six-day pick only with Conference consent.

• The accidentally release FOX schedule had 9 games, meaning they are probably buying content (or just taking on the cost) from ABC/ESPN's cache of 13-15 national games
• That leaves ABC/ESPN with 10-13 national games this year.  From above, they've already had 2, they have 2 this coming weekend, TCU@UT on Thanksgiving, and WVU@ISU the next day.
• That leaves them with 4-7 more national pick-up options the rest of the year

[scottwildcat]

?  Every Big 12 controlled football game.
?  ABC/ESPN: 19 games per year thru 2015, increasing to 23 games annually in 2016 (minimum 13-15 full national exposures via ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU or in combination with reverse mirror); maximum four-five games on ESPNU.
?  FOX: Approximately 38 games with minimum of six contests annually on FOX broadcast and six games on a national cable outlet (see F/X).
?  Member Retained Game: One member-retained game, which must be carried on a FOX platform if returned.
?  Television partners have a maximum four six-day picks between them per season.
?  Minimum four Thursday games each season (including Labor Day weekend and Thanksgiving Day); and one Labor Day Sunday appearance.
?  Maximum of four games scheduled for 8:15 p.m. local time starts per season with the following restrictions: no program required to play more than twice; host more than once; play consecutive weekends; and six-day pick only with Conference consent.

• The accidentally release FOX schedule had 9 games, meaning they are probably buying content (or just taking on the cost) from ABC/ESPN's cache of 13-15 national games
• That leaves ABC/ESPN with 10-13 national games this year.  From above, they've already had 2, they have 2 this coming weekend, TCU@UT on Thanksgiving, and WVU@ISU the next day.
• That leaves them with 4-7 more national pick-up options the rest of the year

BOOM FACTS IN ALL Y'ALLS FACES 

[CyberToothCat]

I'd rather be on broadcast Fox.

Which we'll be three times this year. 

KSU/UT will most likely be on ABC as well if we keep winning.  The only other game they'll have that day is the ACC title game.

If we keep winning, we'll be on Fox and ABC plenty of times.

Also, I think you have to count games on the LHN as ESPN games.  I think that's a part of the deal.

Now that we're into full conference play, we'll start seeing two games a week on ABC/ESPN.

Oh man, that's BS!!!  I'm sure you're right, so I'm not calling you out.  I'm just saying it's BS if the Big 12 agreed to that.  The 10 teams in the Big 12 get a combined 19 exposures on the ESPN family per year, and two of our games this year were Wyoming at Texas and New Mexico at Texas???

Despite how much crap we give MU, NU, A&M for leaving, I regularly find myself agreeing with their decision.  This is exactly the kind of crap they left to get away from!

[Rage Against the McKee]

I'd rather be on broadcast Fox.

Which we'll be three times this year. 

KSU/UT will most likely be on ABC as well if we keep winning.  The only other game they'll have that day is the ACC title game.

If we keep winning, we'll be on Fox and ABC plenty of times.

Also, I think you have to count games on the LHN as ESPN games.  I think that's a part of the deal.

Now that we're into full conference play, we'll start seeing two games a week on ABC/ESPN.

Oh man, that's BS!!!  I'm sure you're right, so I'm not calling you out.  I'm just saying it's BS if the Big 12 agreed to that.  The 10 teams in the Big 12 get a combined 19 exposures on the ESPN family per year, and two of our games this year were Wyoming at Texas and New Mexico at Texas???

Despite how much crap we give MU, NU, A&M for leaving, I regularly find myself agreeing with their decision.  This is exactly the kind of crap they left to get away from!

Why would you rather be on ESPN than Fox? A surprising number of people do not get ESPN, but just about everybody gets Fox.

[Panjandrum]

I'd rather be on broadcast Fox.

Which we'll be three times this year. 

KSU/UT will most likely be on ABC as well if we keep winning.  The only other game they'll have that day is the ACC title game.

If we keep winning, we'll be on Fox and ABC plenty of times.

Also, I think you have to count games on the LHN as ESPN games.  I think that's a part of the deal.

Now that we're into full conference play, we'll start seeing two games a week on ABC/ESPN.

Oh man, that's BS!!!  I'm sure you're right, so I'm not calling you out.  I'm just saying it's BS if the Big 12 agreed to that.  The 10 teams in the Big 12 get a combined 19 exposures on the ESPN family per year, and two of our games this year were Wyoming at Texas and New Mexico at Texas???

Despite how much crap we give MU, NU, A&M for leaving, I regularly find myself agreeing with their decision.  This is exactly the kind of crap they left to get away from!

How many Big 12 games every week are both Big Fox and ABC worthy?  Honestly.  Probably two.

And I don't necessarily think that the OTA Fox numbers come from the ESPN numbers.  I think Fox has to kick something back to ESPN for the right to broadcast them, but I don't think that it's an automatic subtraction.

I think most weeks during conference season (2012-2015) will look something like this:

1 Big Fox
1 ABC National (Saturday Night Reverse Mirror or Thursday Night)
1 ABC Regional or ESPNU
1 FX
1 FSN

I think 2016 and beyond will look like that, but with more ABC/ESPN during the non-con.  They will almost have to broadcast two Big 12 games every week to hit their numbers.

I think there will be a lot of weeks where we'll probably swap with the Pac-12 because we have very similar arrangements.  We'll get more ABC/ESPN when they get more Fox and vice versa.

[AbeFroman]

I haven't watched a game on abc and espn all year. Fox, fx and cbs are killing it with the best games. Abc and espn is literally 90% big teen garbage

[star seed 7]

KSU/UT will most likely be on ABC as well if we keep winning.  The only other game they'll have that day is the ACC title game.

someone on shaggy said this was 11am F/X from a leaked schedule.

[Testy Westy]

KSU/UT will most likely be on ABC as well if we keep winning.  The only other game they'll have that day is the ACC title game.

someone on shaggy said this was 11am F/X from a leaked schedule.

thanks lukeven

[star seed 7]

KSU/UT will most likely be on ABC as well if we keep winning.  The only other game they'll have that day is the ACC title game.

someone on shaggy said this was 11am F/X from a leaked schedule.

thanks lukeven

link??

[Rage Against the McKee]

If all of these television schedules are actually completed at the start of the season, then what's the point of not announcing them? I just don't understand why that is information that would need to be leaked.

[star seed 7]

If all of these television schedules are actually completed at the start of the season, then what's the point of not announcing them? I just don't understand why that is information that would need to be leaked.

i would guess so just incase something weird happens they can change it and not look like jerks.

[Stevesie60]

KSU/UT will most likely be on ABC as well if we keep winning.  The only other game they'll have that day is the ACC title game.

someone on shaggy said this was 11am F/X from a leaked schedule.

thanks lukeven

I can't believe you didn't go with Lukey Number Seven.

[MadCat]

7uke

[Testy Westy]

sorry, was my first ever lukeing

[Ira Hayes]

Has anyone noticed that the Big 12 ratings have been pretty lousy?

Clemson/FSU and Notre Dame/Michigan both drew more than double OU/KSU in the same time slot.

NU/Ohio St outdrew Texas/WVU last Saturday.

edit: And NU/Wisconsin edged out Texas/OK St the week before.

[TheHamburglar]

I'd rather be on broadcast Fox.

Which we'll be three times this year. 

KSU/UT will most likely be on ABC as well if we keep winning.  The only other game they'll have that day is the ACC title game.

If we keep winning, we'll be on Fox and ABC plenty of times.

Also, I think you have to count games on the LHN as ESPN games.  I think that's a part of the deal.

Now that we're into full conference play, we'll start seeing two games a week on ABC/ESPN.

Oh man, that's BS!!!  I'm sure you're right, so I'm not calling you out.  I'm just saying it's BS if the Big 12 agreed to that.  The 10 teams in the Big 12 get a combined 19 exposures on the ESPN family per year, and two of our games this year were Wyoming at Texas and New Mexico at Texas???

Despite how much crap we give MU, NU, A&M for leaving, I regularly find myself agreeing with their decision.  This is exactly the kind of crap they left to get away from!

When they were here, we had 12 teams and 18 combined exposures for ABC/ESPN.  With this new deal we have 10 teams with 17 exposures to ABC/ESPN if you count those 2 games on LHN against the 19 (I have no idea if this is even the case).  On top of those 17, you add 6 national OTA games on Big FOX and 6 more national games on F/X.  That's 25-27 national games per year, plus an extra few regional ABC/ESPN games. 

The exposure opportunities in this new contract are significantly better than with the contract when they were still here and we are getting paid accordingly.  The only problem is that no one knows to switch to FOX or F/X for football, but the Pac-12 is in the same boat.   

[Boom Roasted]

Has anyone noticed that the Big 12 ratings have been pretty lousy?

Clemson/FSU and Notre Dame/Michigan both drew more than double OU/KSU in the same time slot.

NU/Ohio St outdrew Texas/WVU last Saturday.

edit: And NU/Wisconsin edged out Texas/OK St the week before.

No one would really expect OU/KSU to outdraw those other two.  The NU/OSU one is surprising over WVU/TX though.