Met Weber at the Airport Wednesday...

[LickNeckey]

Sure I would love to help,

You can start by eliminating all top 150's  and anyone described as tough or gritty. 

Look for soft pick and pop mid majory bigs and unathletic or recently injured scrap heap guards.

Hope this helps and saves you time and energy!!!!

[Underdog Wildcat]

Sure I would love to help,

You can start by eliminating all top 150's  and anyone described as tough or gritty. 

Look for soft pick and pop mid majory bigs and unathletic or recently injured scrap heap guards.

Hope this helps and saves you time and energy!!!!

I was looking for specific names of players but I understand that's hard for you to do when you really have no rough ridin' clue what you're talking about.

Here's some solid prospects KSU is curently recruiting, maybe you'll learn something, but I doubt it, you'll just keep spewing crap to be part of the cool crowd.


Marcus Foster - physical, athletic combo scoring guard - Top 3 of KSU, SMU, and Creighton

Sam Singer - Also has offers from and considering Miami, NC St, USC, and Nebraska, also considering Stanford and Cal. And get his, he's already turned down an offer from South Carolina.

Alvin Ellis - physical, athletic, versatile, known for being a defensive stopper

Hassan Martin - Undersized but physical and athletic 4 man. Also has offers from Iowa St, Creighton, Rhode Island, and receiving interest from Indiana.

Matthew Athewe - Athletic, shot blocking 4/5. Offensive skills a little raw, but be a very effective rim protector

[Dugout DickStone]

Those offer lists are total garbage

[Underdog Wildcat]

Atewe also has offers from Memphis, Marquette, Auburn, Dayton, St. Bonaventure, Southern Mississippi, Duquesne, Charlotte, Marshall, New Mexico State, Western Kentucky.

Foster also has offers from Oklahoma and TCU

Vitto Brown has offers from Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Iowa St.

[Dugout DickStone]

Atewe also has offers from Memphis, Marquette, Auburn, Dayton, St. Bonaventure, Southern Mississippi, Duquesne, Charlotte, Marshall, New Mexico State, Western Kentucky.

Foster also has offers from Oklahoma and TCU

Vitto Brown has offers from Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Iowa St.

Better but still pretty meh.

[Pete]

Correct me if I am wrong, but we are supposed to be working under the assumption that 2014 will be a much better class for Weber, right?

Is it accurate to suggest that he hasn't had "enough time" with the 2013 class?

[Underdog Wildcat]

In addition to his KSU offer, Demetrius Henry also offered by South Carolina, Memphis, Miami, USC, Mississippi State, USF, Illinois and Cincinnati.

Jordan Mathews has offers from KSU, Colorado, Marquette, Gonzaga, San Diego St, VCU, and Wyoming.

I can do this crap all day, it would be nice to get paid for it, but whatever.

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

Are we pretending Martin was some sort of great recruiter now?  Is that the game?   

[Dugout DickStone]

Are we pretending Martin was some sort of great recruiter now?  Is that the game?   

Nope but we arent pretending that Weber is either.  And when replacing the most successful head coach in your school's history getting a guy who can recruit would be nice.

[Underdog Wildcat]

Are we pretending Martin was some sort of great recruiter now?  Is that the game?   

Nope but we arent pretending that Weber is either.  And when replacing the most successful head coach in your school's history getting a guy who can recruit would be nice.

Frank was successful here, kudos to him, he will be very tough to replace but Tex left for Washington 45 years ago. 

[Pete]

In addition to his KSU offer, Demetrius Henry also offered by South Carolina, Memphis, Miami, USC, Mississippi State, USF, Illinois and Cincinnati.

Jordan Mathews has offers from KSU, Colorado, Marquette, Gonzaga, San Diego St, VCU, and Wyoming.

I can do this crap all day, it would be nice to get paid for it, but whatever.

I love that you keep up on this.  I truly do.  However, I am reserving judgement on Weber's KSU recruiting until he get commitments and fills his 2013 class.  Could be wonderful.  Could be crap.  We''ll see.

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

Are we pretending Martin was some sort of great recruiter now?  Is that the game?   

Nope but we arent pretending that Weber is either.  And when replacing the most successful head coach in your school's history getting a guy who can recruit would be nice.

Ya, agreed on everything except it's straight silly to call Martin the most successful in history.  I'd say he's tied with Lon Kruger just among coaches I remember.  (Don't really remember Jack Hartman's good teams.)

[LickNeckey]

Sure I would love to help,

You can start by eliminating all top 150's  and anyone described as tough or gritty. 

Look for soft pick and pop mid majory bigs and unathletic or recently injured scrap heap guards.

Hope this helps and saves you time and energy!!!!

I was looking for specific names of players but I understand that's hard for you to do when you really have no rough ridin' clue what you're talking about.

Here's some solid prospects KSU is curently recruiting, maybe you'll learn something, but I doubt it, you'll just keep spewing crap to be part of the cool crowd.


Marcus Foster - physical, athletic combo scoring guard - Top 3 of KSU, SMU, and Creighton

Sam Singer - Also has offers from and considering Miami, NC St, USC, and Nebraska, also considering Stanford and Cal. And get his, he's already turned down an offer from South Carolina.

Alvin Ellis - physical, athletic, versatile, known for being a defensive stopper

Hassan Martin - Undersized but physical and athletic 4 man. Also has offers from Iowa St, Creighton, Rhode Island, and receiving interest from Indiana.

Matthew Athewe - Athletic, shot blocking 4/5. Offensive skills a little raw, but be a very effective rim protector

Foster - 6'1" shooting guard that will go to Baylor if they offer.  Not ranked by many services!!!  NEAT

Ellis - decent looking 3 star who seems to be a big 10 lean.  ALSO LIKES STUPID HAIR CUTS

Martin - late bloomer who hasn't been exposed due to injury (see above comments).  The Hurley boys at RI prolly have a better shot.  Also at 6'7" 190 is more of a small forward project.  Also if IU offers we are screwed.  THANK GOD HE HAD A BROKEN FINGER!!!!

Atewe - is intriguing however it's been rumored that Marquette UCLA and Purdue may be targeting, if so we are screwed. Even if they do not st. Bonnie has a better shot than us. NOT QUITE A FRENCH VOLLEYBALLER BUT CLOSE!!!!!!!

Singer - 3 star is the only kid listed that I think we plausibly land.  Not saying much since like I mentioned above none are top 150 and are mid majory.  The gopo tweet that exuberantly states that "singer still lists kstate!!!" is encouraging!!!!
HOLY crap HE'S STILL LISTING US!!!

[Underdog Wildcat]

Sure I would love to help,

You can start by eliminating all top 150's  and anyone described as tough or gritty. 

Look for soft pick and pop mid majory bigs and unathletic or recently injured scrap heap guards.

Hope this helps and saves you time and energy!!!!

I was looking for specific names of players but I understand that's hard for you to do when you really have no rough ridin' clue what you're talking about.

Here's some solid prospects KSU is curently recruiting, maybe you'll learn something, but I doubt it, you'll just keep spewing crap to be part of the cool crowd.


Marcus Foster - physical, athletic combo scoring guard - Top 3 of KSU, SMU, and Creighton

Sam Singer - Also has offers from and considering Miami, NC St, USC, and Nebraska, also considering Stanford and Cal. And get his, he's already turned down an offer from South Carolina.

Alvin Ellis - physical, athletic, versatile, known for being a defensive stopper

Hassan Martin - Undersized but physical and athletic 4 man. Also has offers from Iowa St, Creighton, Rhode Island, and receiving interest from Indiana.

Matthew Athewe - Athletic, shot blocking 4/5. Offensive skills a little raw, but be a very effective rim protector

Foster - 6'1" shooting guard that will go to Baylor if they offer.  Not ranked by many services!!!  NEAT

Ellis - decent looking 3 star who seems to be a big 10 lean.  ALSO LIKES STUPID HAIR CUTS

Martin - late bloomer who hasn't been exposed due to injury (see above comments).  The Hurley boys at RI prolly have a better shot.  Also at 6'7" 190 is more of a small forward project.  Also if IU offers we are screwed.  THANK GOD HE HAD A BROKEN FINGER!!!!

Atewe - is intriguing however it's been rumored that Marquette UCLA and Purdue may be targeting, if so we are screwed. Even if they do not st. Bonnie has a better shot than us. NOT QUITE A FRENCH VOLLEYBALLER BUT CLOSE!!!!!!!

Singer - 3 star is the only kid listed that I think we plausibly land.  Not saying much since like I mentioned above none are top 150 and are mid majory.  The gopo tweet that exuberantly states that "singer still lists kstate!!!" is encouraging!!!!
HOLY crap HE'S STILL LISTING US!!!

Nothing you posted indicated that any of those prospects would not be considering KSU in the near future and nothing you posted indicated that any of them could not be a contributor at KSU.

Baylor isn't even recruiting Foster right now, Texas was sort of earlier but that sounds like it's died down.

So like I said - Foster, Parrish, Atewe or several other possibilities = would take.

That wouldn't be a Top 25 class and I've said that we probably won't land a Top 25 class this year, but it still could be solid with some valuable contributors.

[Underdog Wildcat]

In addition to his KSU offer, Demetrius Henry also offered by South Carolina, Memphis, Miami, USC, Mississippi State, USF, Illinois and Cincinnati.

Jordan Mathews has offers from KSU, Colorado, Marquette, Gonzaga, San Diego St, VCU, and Wyoming.

I can do this crap all day, it would be nice to get paid for it, but whatever.

I love that you keep up on this.  I truly do.  However, I am reserving judgement on Weber's KSU recruiting until he get commitments and fills his 2013 class.  Could be wonderful.  Could be crap.  We''ll see.

That sounds completely fair.

As you referred to earlier, the case could be made that this staff got a late start for '13 and as a result expectations should be tempered in this class. The immediate remedy for that would have been to go with a package deal on the staff, that obviously didn't happen, so we'll have to wait and see what will happen. Could be solid, could be crap, we've really sailed past any possibility of "could be wonderful" for this class.

Plenty of offers to high level kids in '14 like Custer, Kaleb Joseph, Matt Cimino, Larry Austin, Trevon Blueitt and Dwayne Morgan. We'll see how that plays out.

[LickNeckey]

I said eliminate top 150 kids and look at soft/injured/mid majory athletes.

You proceeded to be a dick that can use google and produce a list with nobody in the top 150 who are soft/injured/midmajory

[michigancat]

frank was a better recruiter than oscar. (NOTE: I NO LONGER PAY ATTENTION TO RECRUITING)

[Underdog Wildcat]

I said eliminate top 150 kids and look at soft/injured/mid majory athletes.

You proceeded to be a dick that can use google and produce a list with nobody in the top 150 who are soft/injured/midmajory

Which prospect is soft?

Every prospect I've listed in this thread has multiple BCS offers.

[j-dub]

correct me if i'm wrong here, but didn't illinois recruit more 4 star and top 150's than the ksu cats post beasley? scratch correcting me. i just looked it up. illinois has gotten 9 four star commits from 09-11. frank had 2 four stars and 1 five star.

9. DID YOU HEAR ME? 9!!

good grief guys. forget about recruiting. weber is a loser.

can you imagine what frank would have won with all that talent at illinois (assuming he didn't frank them and get himself run out of town)

frank willed his teams to victory. oscar passes blame and makes excuses about losing

pretty damn simple really. (i'm aware that frank staying was an impossibility.) i simply wish we had hired someone who had not already proven himself to be incompetent.

[LickNeckey]

Sure oscar got fired from a team with numerous pros and a lottery pick.  So what.

He doesn't need talent to win.  He won with crap sacks before.  DIDN'T HE

Luckily he assured everyone at his initial press conference that he doesn't think he can recruit here because of it's challenging nature.

Which is a blessing because oscar was never the problem.  No the problem was those pesky/entitled/soft 4 stars.  Well I can assure you that he has learned his lesson and will not let it happen again.

DOOM ON YOU 4 stars

[michigancat]

correct me if i'm wrong here, but didn't illinois recruit more 4 star and top 150's than the ksu cats post beasley? scratch correcting me. i just looked it up. illinois has gotten 9 four star commits from 09-11. frank had 2 four stars and 1 five star.

9. DID YOU HEAR ME? 9!!

good grief guys. forget about recruiting. weber is a loser.

can you imagine what frank would have won with all that talent at illinois (assuming he didn't frank them and get himself run out of town)

frank willed his teams to victory. oscar passes blame and makes excuses about losing

pretty damn simple really. (i'm aware that frank staying was an impossibility.) i simply wish we had hired someone who had not already proven himself to be incompetent.

I didn't say Frank got more "stars" than oscar, even if it looks like he got more at KSU than oscar will.

[LickNeckey]

Damnit can we get back on track.  This thread should be about oscar's social ineptitudes not his shitty coaching/recruiting.

[Underdog Wildcat]

Sure oscar got fired from a team with numerous pros and a lottery pick.  So what.

He doesn't need talent to win.  He won with crap sacks before.  DIDN'T HE

Luckily he assured everyone at his initial press conference that he doffesn't think he can recruit here because of it's challenging nature.

Which is a blessing because oscar was never the problem.  No the problem was those pesky/entitled/soft 4 stars.  Well I can assure you that he has learned his lesson and will not let it happen again.

DOOM ON YOU 4 stars

Class of '14 offers so far:

Clayton Custer 4*
Lourawls Nairn 4*
Keita Bates-DIOP 4*
Jaquan Lyle 5*
Trevon Blueitt 4*
Kaleb Joseph 4*
MAtt Cimino 4*
Dwayne Morgan 5*
Larry Austin 4*

Yep, we've completely given up on 4* and above talent, and no I didn't need google to come up with that list

[8manpick]

Yeah, saying UW needed google to go find these lists is sorta silly considering he pretty much single-handedly maintains all the bball recruiting threads on this site.

[Dr Rick Daris]

my hope is that oscar was serious when he talked about some of his mistakes at illinois. i don't think it takes a rocket scientist to see that oscar is pretty introverted and doesn't like confrontation on a personal level.

i do think he let some players and handlers walk over him a bit while he was at illinois in an attempt to not burn bridges and play them where they wanted to play. oscar wouldn't have dom'd dom. maybe he did learn and will adjust, but more than likely he didn't and can't (he's 55). i also personally think he needs an bad person on the staff and it doesn't look like he's close to having one.

time will tell but i just don't see how this is going to work. it's v sad for me personally.