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2012 rule changes?
« on: July 26, 2012, 04:36:22 PM »
http://themercury.com/k-statesports/article.aspx?articleId=465f148014a3452795d280095fd2fc03

-Kickoff closer, touchback further.
-Weirder and more arbitrary halo rule reincarnation.
-Ralph Guidry rule.
-more complicated blocking penalties.
-penalty for playing without a helmet.
-probably luked


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Re: 2012 rule changes?
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2012, 04:37:48 PM »
Predicto - by the second quarter of the first game on ESPN everyone's going to be all "OK WE GET IT, THEY KICKOFF CLOSER!"


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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2012, 10:18:31 PM »
The onside kick rule change is the weirdest, and I think it will be the most difficult to interpret (save maybe the still awkward halo rule). BITB nailed it on the head the other day when he was asking Walt Anderson, "What happens when 3 or 4 players on the receiving team raise their hands for a fair catch on an onside kick that bounces high in the air? Everybody on the kicking team will be forced to stand there holding their dicks." Also, how high of a bounce is high enough to be determined high enough to call a fair catch? Walt Anderson said the intent of the rule was to eliminate those style of onside kicks all together...but what if it doesn't?

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Re: 2012 rule changes?
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2012, 10:26:10 PM »
the halo rule rough ridin' sucks

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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2012, 10:56:41 PM »
You can't jump over a guy to block a punt? what on earth?

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Re: 2012 rule changes?
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2012, 02:55:59 PM »
hadn't seen these yet.

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Warning: Do not hoot and holler Saturday when the officials put the ball down at the 35-yard line for the opening kickoff. And, do not scream and shout after a kickoff is belted into the end zone for a touchback and the ball is spotted at the 25-yard line.

As they normally are, those in black and white stripes will be right as there have been adjustments made to the kickoff and kickoff return rules for the 2012 season in an effort to eliminate injuries from high-speed collisions on returns.

“Teams are going to have the choice of kicking it out of the end zone and giving the team the ball at the 25 or trying to hang the kickoff high in hopes of having it come down at about the five-yard line and doing a good job with their coverage,” said K-State associate head coach/special teams coordinator Sean Snyder. “It’s probably viewed as a good rule by kickoff teams and a bad rule for kickoff-return teams.”

While saying he understands how the rule is designed to reduce the number of injuries, and in particular head injuries, Snyder said, “It’s also going to eliminate one of the most exciting plays in the game, which is the kickoff return.”

In addition, another safety adjustment will come on onside kicks that are driven into the ground and bound high into the air.

While the receiving player could have been hit a year ago, this season the receiving player on such an onside kick will be given the same protection as a punt returner.

“We’re trying to make the game as safe as we possibly can,” said Walt Anderson, who serves as Supervisor of Officials for the Big 12 Conference. “You’re going to see onside kicks, but I think you’re going to see more of them that dance and take funny bounces on the turf as opposed to the type that are almost pooch kicks. The new rule will have potential player receiving the kick being given the protection of not having to worry about being blocked.”

OTHER 2012 POINTS OF EMPHASIS:
• HELMET RULE: If the helmet of a player comes off during a play, that player cannot take part in the rest of the play. In other words, if a defensive player’s helmet comes off during a play, he cannot go chase the ball carrier down. If he does, its’ a 15-yard personal foul on the defense. If the helmet of a player comes off during a normal play, that player must also come out of the game for one play. This point of emphasis is being made due to the increasing number of concussions. One exception to the rule is if an opposing player grabs the helmet of a player and the helmet comes off, the player does not have to come out of the game.

• FALSE START: A point of emphasis this year will come in shotgun formations when the center is looking between his legs makes an abrupt movement of his head as if to simulate the start of a play to make the defense jump off sides.
 
“This has always been a false start, but seldom called,” said Anderson. “This year it will be a point of emphasis. You may see a warning early in the game, but while always a false start, this will be a point of emphasis in 2012. Any popping up of the head in an abrupt manner by the center, or any member of the offensive line, will be a false start.”

• HALO RULE: The new “halo” rule on receiving punts and kickoffs is now only a one-yard allowance, which is a reduction from past years when a two-yard halo was allowed.

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Re: 2012 rule changes?
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2012, 02:58:11 PM »
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Re: 2012 rule changes?
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2012, 02:59:27 PM »
If they're going to ruin the kickoff-return, those kicking teams need to have their PATs revoked. 

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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2012, 03:05:19 PM »
Taking away the kick return sucks ass for us.

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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2012, 03:09:09 PM »
Wow.  All of those suck. 
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2012, 03:21:48 PM »
The ball being spotted at the 25 will cause snyds to do more sky rights... and I swear to god if I hear one more tuck say "why the hell can't he kick it any better than that" or "he must have missed that one" or "what the hell was that" I am going to go all sorts of BTK on them.   :chainsaw: :curse: :chainsaw: :bang:

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Re: 2012 rule changes?
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2012, 05:11:13 PM »
Hmm...it seems that several of you have been under a rock. T's and P's.

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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2012, 07:15:31 PM »
I think it's funny that the eliminate the kick-off for safety reasons, but reduce the halo from 2 yards to 1 yard.

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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2012, 08:54:54 AM »
I think it's funny that the eliminate the kick-off for safety reasons, but reduce the halo from 2 yards to 1 yard.

They actually increased the halo from zero to 1. It was 2 yards a few years ago, but they had eliminated the rule because it's a very shitty rule.

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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2012, 09:48:08 AM »
I think it's funny that the eliminate the kick-off for safety reasons, but reduce the halo from 2 yards to 1 yard.

They actually increased the halo from zero to 1. It was 2 yards a few years ago, but they had eliminated the rule because it's a very shitty rule.

I don't think the halo rule will change much. This seems pretty reasonable, it simply forces defenders to leave enough room to allow for the returner to make a clean catch.

The kickoff rule will change quite a bit. It will be interesting to see if teams try high corner kicks to pin teams inside the 25. I'm sure K-State has worked a lot on return schemes against those types of kicks as well.

Perhaps the biggest change is the onside kick rules. Not allowing the kicking team to make contact until the ball is caught will pretty much end the "modern" onside kick of kicking the ball hard into the ground for the high bounce. Most teams will go back to the old onside kick on the ground hoping for the late bounce away from the returning team.

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« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2012, 04:53:39 PM »
The onside kick rule change is the weirdest, and I think it will be the most difficult to interpret (save maybe the still awkward halo rule). BITB nailed it on the head the other day when he was asking Walt Anderson, "What happens when 3 or 4 players on the receiving team raise their hands for a fair catch on an onside kick that bounces high in the air? Everybody on the kicking team will be forced to stand there holding their dicks." Also, how high of a bounce is high enough to be determined high enough to call a fair catch? Walt Anderson said the intent of the rule was to eliminate those style of onside kicks all together...but what if it doesn't?

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« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2012, 04:57:06 PM »
I think it's funny that the eliminate the kick-off for safety reasons, but reduce the halo from 2 yards to 1 yard.

They actually increased the halo from zero to 1. It was 2 yards a few years ago, but they had eliminated the rule because it's a very shitty rule.

I don't think the halo rule will change much. This seems pretty reasonable, it simply forces defenders to leave enough room to allow for the returner to make a clean catch.

The kickoff rule will change quite a bit. It will be interesting to see if teams try high corner kicks to pin teams inside the 25. I'm sure K-State has worked a lot on return schemes against those types of kicks as well.

Perhaps the biggest change is the onside kick rules. Not allowing the kicking team to make contact until the ball is caught will pretty much end the "modern" onside kick of kicking the ball hard into the ground for the high bounce. Most teams will go back to the old onside kick on the ground hoping for the late bounce away from the returning team.

Does kicking the ball full force at the fool in the front line and it bouncing off them count as a "catch"?

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« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2012, 06:33:26 PM »
Just spot the ball on the 25 after touchdowns and get it over with.   :jerk:

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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2012, 08:12:08 AM »
Just spot the ball on the 25 after touchdowns and get it over with.   :jerk:
Snyder is kicking it high. You know he is.

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« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2012, 09:52:39 PM »
Just spot the ball on the 25 after touchdowns and get it over with.   :jerk:
Snyder is kicking it high. You know he is.

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« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2012, 01:17:36 AM »
42's Arbitrary Rule Change Ratings

-Players come off after helmet gets popped up: Shitty, but meh

-Halo rule: 1 yard? meh.

-New kickoff rule: Shitty, but can understand the logic of it. Still shitty.

-New onside rule: Complete and utter crap

-New punt block "shield" rule: I will rip out Mark Emmert's scrotum and feed it to Section 20.

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« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2012, 03:30:25 AM »
42, I quoted your entire post because I thought I was going to go through and give my own ratings. As you can see, I ended up deleting the quote. No need for it, you are spot on.

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« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2012, 06:42:04 AM »
Pretty butthurt over this one, blatant stab at Scheme Doc's gameplan.  Should cost a couple of games this year.