Author Topic: Aurora Shooting (Read 64673 times)

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #375 on:** July 30, 2012, 04:35:35 PM »

Quote from: HeinBallz on July 30, 2012, 04:30:36 PM

Zimmerman is a sad deal - you care because you hear about it every 3 days. What you don't care about is the countless instances that a CCL holder stopped a rape/assault/theft/murder.

Mr. Bread posted a story about an old man stopping a theft, but I have never seen any story where a CCL holder actually stopped a rape, assault, or murder.

HeinBallz · « **Reply #376 on:** July 30, 2012, 04:37:11 PM »

Quote from: Nuts Kicked on July 30, 2012, 04:32:35 PM

Quote from: HeinBallz on July 30, 2012, 04:28:47 PM
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on July 30, 2012, 04:26:15 PM
Almost all gun owners that I know simply keep them in a safe in their house and only remove them if they have some reason to protect themselves or if they are going hunting. I only know a few people who are frightened of the world enough to carry around a gun with no intention of using it, and those people all have concealed carry licenses. I don't know anybody who carries around a concealed weapon without a license, and I would quickly disassociate myself from anybody who does.

Well then I have to ask - where do you obtain this "nut-job" insight that you keep speaking of? Sounds like all of the gun owners you know are fairly responsible.

I just think that anybody who feels the need to pack heat when they go to the supermarket is a little bit crazy.

That's probably true in most cities. I have only carried twice since I got a CCL 2 years ago - both were while I was on vacation driving through areas that had crime rates higher than average or where black bears may be around. I don't know anyone that carries at all times. If I met someone, I would assume they were paranoid... not crazy. There's a huge difference.

HeinBallz · « **Reply #377 on:** July 30, 2012, 04:39:20 PM »

Quote from: Nuts Kicked on July 30, 2012, 04:35:35 PM

Quote from: HeinBallz on July 30, 2012, 04:30:36 PM

Zimmerman is a sad deal - you care because you hear about it every 3 days. What you don't care about is the countless instances that a CCL holder stopped a rape/assault/theft/murder.

Mr. Bread posted a story about an old man stopping a theft, but I have never seen any story where a CCL holder actually stopped a rape, assault, or murder.

And why would you hear about it? It's not exactly national news when someone prevents a crime from happening. No one watches the news to hear about someone "Almost" getting raped or "Almost" getting murdered. People want drama. Unless it's a six year old, or a Labrador retriever stopping a crime, there's no sensationalized story that can be sold.

HeinBallz · « **Reply #378 on:** July 30, 2012, 04:40:58 PM »

Anyway, I'm off work and going home. Maybe I'll do a quick google search for you later to show you some instances where a CCL holder actually stopped a crime. I bet it's happened more often than Aurora Colorado type incidents.

Emo EMAW · « **Reply #379 on:** July 30, 2012, 04:44:18 PM »

Quote from: Nuts Kicked on July 30, 2012, 04:35:35 PM

Quote from: HeinBallz on July 30, 2012, 04:30:36 PM

Zimmerman is a sad deal - you care because you hear about it every 3 days. What you don't care about is the countless instances that a CCL holder stopped a rape/assault/theft/murder.

Mr. Bread posted a story about an old man stopping a theft, but I have never seen any story where a CCL holder actually stopped a rape, assault, or murder.

They are literally a dozen or more stories, every month, in the NRA magazine. Albeit some are home-invasion type stuff, I'm happy to provide details if you'd like.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #380 on:** July 30, 2012, 04:45:19 PM »

Quote from: Emo EMAW on July 30, 2012, 04:44:18 PM

Quote from: Nuts Kicked on July 30, 2012, 04:35:35 PM
Quote from: HeinBallz on July 30, 2012, 04:30:36 PM

Zimmerman is a sad deal - you care because you hear about it every 3 days. What you don't care about is the countless instances that a CCL holder stopped a rape/assault/theft/murder.

Mr. Bread posted a story about an old man stopping a theft, but I have never seen any story where a CCL holder actually stopped a rape, assault, or murder.

They are literally a dozen or more stories, every month, in the NRA magazine. Albeit some are home-invasion type stuff, I'm happy to provide details if you'd like.

Please do.

DQ12 · « **Reply #381 on:** July 30, 2012, 04:56:28 PM »

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-4-most-meaningless-arguments-against-gun-control/

mocat · « **Reply #382 on:** July 30, 2012, 05:10:29 PM »

I would like to know the percentage of gun-related crimes committed by people with a CCL in CCL states. Is that info available HB?

'taterblast · « **Reply #383 on:** July 30, 2012, 05:42:34 PM »

XocolateThundarr · « **Reply #384 on:** July 30, 2012, 05:53:21 PM »

Quote from: emawblast on July 30, 2012, 05:42:34 PM

Pic on the left looks like Two-Face .

sys · « **Reply #385 on:** July 30, 2012, 05:59:30 PM »

Quote from: HeinBallz on July 30, 2012, 04:18:11 PM

If some dude is nailing my wife, I can live with the jail time and I doubt anyone would miss guys like fanning.

heinballz already won the thread and none of you retards even noticed.

8manpick · « **Reply #386 on:** July 30, 2012, 06:35:58 PM »

Quote from: sys on July 30, 2012, 05:59:30 PM

Quote from: HeinBallz on July 30, 2012, 04:18:11 PM
If some dude is nailing my wife, I can live with the jail time and I doubt anyone would miss guys like fanning.

heinballz already won the thread and none of you retards even noticed.

If some dude is nailing your wife, you married a whore

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Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #387 on:** July 30, 2012, 07:08:25 PM »

Quote from: cats2win on July 30, 2012, 05:53:21 PM

Quote from: emawblast on July 30, 2012, 05:42:34 PM

Pic on the left looks like Two-Face .

Yeah, he could pull Two Face off much better than the Joker. Maybe he should start going with that.

kstatefreak42 · « **Reply #388 on:** July 30, 2012, 07:11:51 PM »

Project MKUltra

HeinBallz · « **Reply #389 on:** July 30, 2012, 08:19:14 PM »

Quote from: emawblast on July 30, 2012, 05:42:34 PM

That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

"Hey guys! Everyone knows that faces are completely rough ridin' symetrical, and the left ear always always always matches up identically to the right ear, so comparing this left ear from picture 1 and this right ear from picture 2 tells me that these two pictures are of a different person... except for the picture in the middle where the clearly same dude has asymmetrical ears...wait... eff... The nose!!! Look at the Nose! Ones thin & the other isn't! That's it! Clearly a different person! Except in one picture he's smiling and sometimes the muscles in your face cause an involuntary nostril flair and in the other picture he's frowning and trying to look crazy... wait... eff."

HeinBallz · « **Reply #390 on:** July 30, 2012, 08:23:43 PM »

Quote from: mocat on July 30, 2012, 05:10:29 PM

I would like to know the percentage of gun-related crimes committed by people with a CCL in CCL states. Is that info available HB?

How the eff should I know?

Let's have a google contest though, my fellow gun nuts and I will look for instances of CCL's stopping a crime and the anti-gun nuts can look for instances where a person with a CCL accidentally/purposely shot someone or broke the law. The handicap will be the mostly liberal media jumping all over a reason to ban guns and not covering CCL saves. Ready... GO!

HeinBallz · « **Reply #391 on:** July 30, 2012, 08:55:01 PM »

kstatefreak42 · « **Reply #392 on:** July 30, 2012, 09:31:03 PM »

Yeah I want my guns for protection only.

Against the oppressive police state that lies ahead for my generation.

Emo EMAW · « **Reply #393 on:** July 30, 2012, 09:37:29 PM »

Quote from: HeinBallz on July 30, 2012, 08:55:01 PM

http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2011/05/concealed-carry-permit-holder-stops.html

http://blogsofwar.com/2007/04/22/gun-control-gets-personal/

http://www.rightwingnews.com/guns/concealed-carry-permitholder-stops-stabbing-rampage-in-utah/

Oh crap: Here's a goldmine!
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/customer-shoots-suspects-during-internet-cafe-robbery/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/michigan-ccw-holder-stops-knife-assault/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/armed-colorado-physician-rescues-50-bystanders-from-hostage-situation/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/pennsylvania-cyclist-ends-teen-robbery-spree/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/south-carolinian-kills-armed-restaurant-robber/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/arizona-man-survives-gun-battle/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/ohio-woman-fights-off-sex-offender/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/armed-houston-dad-foils-attack-on-14-year-old-daughter/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/armed-naples-fl-clerk-foils-robbery-kidnap-attempt/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/st-petersburg-fl-man-decides-to-stay-armed-then-stops-mugging/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/south-carolina-convenience-store-owner-stops-armed-robber/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/philly-area-senior-citizen-pistol-whips-younger-bigger-robber/

There appears to be thousands more on that site, but before I waste any more time, I thought I'd see what you could find. I was skipping all of the home invasion ones... I only posted the "gun-nut" carrying out in public ones - but I encourage you to double check my work.

You know what I did notice in every story I read though? Every one involved someone deserving to rough ridin' get shot - alot of them I wish would have been killed instead of just being wounded and later hauled off to jail. But be sure to watch this last one below - speaks perfectly to why the 2nd amendment is extremely relevant.

A good example of why I don't think cops should be responsible for my safety - rough ridin' pig probably kept his job after this stunt - We have guns so we don't end up in a police state

NK, do I still have to scan in my magazine?

sys · « **Reply #394 on:** July 30, 2012, 10:09:30 PM »

Quote from: 8manpick on July 30, 2012, 06:35:58 PM

If some dude is nailing your wife, you married a whore.

i imagine fanning is raping her.

Cire · « **Reply #395 on:** July 30, 2012, 10:21:53 PM »

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/01/the-geography-of-gun-deaths/69354/

HeinBallz · « **Reply #396 on:** July 30, 2012, 10:29:49 PM »

Quote from: Cire on July 30, 2012, 10:21:53 PM

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/01/the-geography-of-gun-deaths/69354/

fail. People like to kill - they often use guns because guns are good at killing people - banning guns will not prevent people from wanting to kill - some people kill people that need to be killed, such as people that like to kill - guns are useful for this - until people stop wanting to kill - or people that need to be killed cease to exist - removing guns would be counterproductive.

The challenge was to find CCL people (you know those that obey the law) - committing crimes. Try again. GO!

Cire · « **Reply #397 on:** July 30, 2012, 11:15:53 PM »

don't take it out on someone who's gay or black

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #398 on:** July 31, 2012, 07:55:02 AM »

Quote from: Emo EMAW on July 30, 2012, 09:37:29 PM

Quote from: HeinBallz on July 30, 2012, 08:55:01 PM
http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2011/05/concealed-carry-permit-holder-stops.html

http://blogsofwar.com/2007/04/22/gun-control-gets-personal/

http://www.rightwingnews.com/guns/concealed-carry-permitholder-stops-stabbing-rampage-in-utah/

Oh crap: Here's a goldmine!
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/customer-shoots-suspects-during-internet-cafe-robbery/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/michigan-ccw-holder-stops-knife-assault/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/armed-colorado-physician-rescues-50-bystanders-from-hostage-situation/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/pennsylvania-cyclist-ends-teen-robbery-spree/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/south-carolinian-kills-armed-restaurant-robber/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/arizona-man-survives-gun-battle/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/ohio-woman-fights-off-sex-offender/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/armed-houston-dad-foils-attack-on-14-year-old-daughter/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/armed-naples-fl-clerk-foils-robbery-kidnap-attempt/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/st-petersburg-fl-man-decides-to-stay-armed-then-stops-mugging/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/south-carolina-convenience-store-owner-stops-armed-robber/
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-departments/true-stories/philly-area-senior-citizen-pistol-whips-younger-bigger-robber/

There appears to be thousands more on that site, but before I waste any more time, I thought I'd see what you could find. I was skipping all of the home invasion ones... I only posted the "gun-nut" carrying out in public ones - but I encourage you to double check my work.

You know what I did notice in every story I read though? Every one involved someone deserving to rough ridin' get shot - alot of them I wish would have been killed instead of just being wounded and later hauled off to jail. But be sure to watch this last one below - speaks perfectly to why the 2nd amendment is extremely relevant.

A good example of why I don't think cops should be responsible for my safety - rough ridin' pig probably kept his job after this stunt - We have guns so we don't end up in a police state

NK, do I still have to scan in my magazine?

You never had to, but if you want to, you still can.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #399 on:** July 31, 2012, 07:56:57 AM »

Quote from: HeinBallz on July 30, 2012, 08:19:14 PM

Quote from: emawblast on July 30, 2012, 05:42:34 PM

That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

"Hey guys! Everyone knows that faces are completely rough ridin' symetrical, and the left ear always always always matches up identically to the right ear, so comparing this left ear from picture 1 and this right ear from picture 2 tells me that these two pictures are of a different person... except for the picture in the middle where the clearly same dude has asymmetrical ears...wait... eff... The nose!!! Look at the Nose! Ones thin & the other isn't! That's it! Clearly a different person! Except in one picture he's smiling and sometimes the muscles in your face cause an involuntary nostril flair and in the other picture he's frowning and trying to look crazy... wait... eff."

Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous. Not to mention that he's looking directly at the camera in the middle pic and his head is tilted and he has a weird facial expression in his crazy pic. This analysis must have been performed by a birther.