Aurora Shooting

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guns serve no purpose.  people that own guns also watch nascar and dip.  <---- fact.

I own a .38 special that I keep in my nightstand for when some chick's husband home invades me all mad about "the sole owner of goEMAW" banging his wife.  No nascar, no dip.

[HeinBallz]

What an argument.

This gun that is used almost exclusively for mass murder should be legal because they break every once in a while.

Well now you're just talking out your ass; exclusively for mass murder?  Please educate me, how often has the AR15 been used in mass murder?  Also, while you're at it - please explain to me why you would rather be shot with a .45 or a shot gun than an assault rifle?  That's like asking, what would you rather get hit by? A train or a Mack truck?

You want my argument? My for real argument?  Why are we wasting energy on trying to prevent stuff like this from happening by removing the means, not the source?  You want to know how this particular ass hole would have been stopped?  If someone would have noticed this guy was bat nuts rough ridin' crazy and tried to help him.  He clearly reached out for help by sending a notebook detailing his plans a week in advance.  He worked & lived around people that surely knew be needed help. It's the people that ignore that cause things like the Oklahoma city bombing, the columbine, the aurora Colorado - not a rough ridin' assault rifle.


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[husserl]

You want to know how this particular ass hole would have been stopped?  If someone would have noticed this guy was bat nuts rough ridin' crazy and tried to help him. 

...and I'm a crazy bastard...

Maybe I'm a crazy bastard...

People in my office think I'm crazy now.   Literal 

I have to admit - I feel crazy sometimes.

fine.  I'm a crazy lunatic.  Glad we got that out of the way...   

[HeinBallz]

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[8manpick]

 

husserl <----- creepy stalker guy with a notebook on HeinBallz that is probably just deflecting suspicion from himself

['taterblast]

holy crap, husserl.

mods, please verify that husserl is not some sort of CIA operative. tia, ftb.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

guns dont kill people I do

[steve dave]

holy crap, husserl.

mods, please verify that husserl is not some sort of CIA operative. tia, ftb.

our search function is pretty easy to use.  I destroyed the oneuponaggies guy with it so hard he quit posting on ksufans when he said he's always liked frank martin.  it's great to blindside posters with it when they usually post on a rivals or scout board where their old posts aren't saved after a certain time period. 

[HeinBallz]

gotta admit - absolutely fantastic post husserl.  Should be up for a csourky.

[OK_Cat]

husserl working hard for a csourkey

[husserl]

 

[HeinBallz]

victims families agree with me:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/brother-of-aurora-victim-rebuts-msnbc-host-media-shouldnt-be-trying-to-politicize-shooting/

“Here’s the thing. We can try to politicize this and make some sort of polarizing debate and make this a tenet of the election. That’s not what we’re here to do right now. We’re here to celebrate the lives of the victims that have been lost. If somebody wants to do harm to somebody, they’re gonna find a way to do it, whether it be with a weapon such as a rifle or whether it be with any sort of means. We should actually start to think about why people are doing this, and the reason people are doing this is they want their names out there.”

[ChiComCat]

victims families agree with me:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/brother-of-aurora-victim-rebuts-msnbc-host-media-shouldnt-be-trying-to-politicize-shooting/

“Here’s the thing. We can try to politicize this and make some sort of polarizing debate and make this a tenet of the election. That’s not what we’re here to do right now. We’re here to celebrate the lives of the victims that have been lost. If somebody wants to do harm to somebody, they’re gonna find a way to do it, whether it be with a weapon such as a rifle or whether it be with any sort of means. We should actually start to think about why people are doing this, and the reason people are doing this is they want their names out there.”[\quote]

You're politicizing it for more concealed carry.  That quote would seem to disagree with you

[HeinBallz]

You're politicizing it for more concealed carry. 

No I'm not?!?

I've been very firmly on board with no new gun laws from this.  No laws stating business have to let people carry and no laws removing gun rights.  The basis for every statement I've made is the very basic "Guns don't kill people, crazy assholes kill people." 

[Mr Bread]

You're politicizing it for more concealed carry. 

No I'm not?!?

I've been very firmly on board with no new gun laws from this.  No laws stating business have to let people carry and no laws removing gun rights.  The basis for every statement I've made is the very basic "Guns don't kill people, crazy assholes kill people."

I haven't read this crapfest of a thread and I fully realize that guns aren't going anywhere here in the good old USofA, but obviously guns make it far, far easier to kill far more people in a short period of time (i.e., mass murder) than any other means available outside of say the use of an explosive device.  If this guy had to resort to bludgeoning or stabbing people to death he wouldn't have done jack crap in a crowded movie theater.  Serial killer then maybe.  I don't know if I'm really making a point here.  Take it or leave it.  People are going to kill people.

[HeinBallz]

You're politicizing it for more concealed carry. 

No I'm not?!?

I've been very firmly on board with no new gun laws from this.  No laws stating business have to let people carry and no laws removing gun rights.  The basis for every statement I've made is the very basic "Guns don't kill people, crazy assholes kill people."

I haven't read this crapfest of a thread and I fully realize that guns aren't going anywhere here in the good old USofA, but obviously guns make it far, far easier to kill far more people in a short period of time (i.e., mass murder) than any other means available outside of say the use of an explosive device.  If this guy had to resort to bludgeoning or stabbing people to death he wouldn't have done jack crap in a crowded movie theater.  Serial killer then maybe.  I don't know if I'm really making a point here.  Take it or leave it.  People are going to kill people.

Agreed, people are going to kill no matter what.  The point I've tried to make in this thread is a bomb would have been far more devastating and I've been trying to find out what guns actually killed the victims.  Here's what I know according to the reports.  He started with the 12 gauge shot gun, at least two of the 12 killed were shot by the 12 gauge - he then pulled a .40 hand gun with a high capacity clip that held 40 rounds - then he pulled out the AR, last, which jammed.  All anyone can talk about is the AR and im not convinced it actually was any more deadly than the other two guns.

   If you're trying to prevent stuff like this, taking particular guns away from anyone will not solve anything - and all it does is take rights away from people that will not break the law.  Identifying crazy people seems a lot more logical.


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[michigancat]

A lot of people are more worried about America's gun culture in general and not assault rifles specifically. I personally think outlawing handguns would do far more good and make a lot more sense than assault rifles.

[HeinBallz]

A lot of people are more worried about America's gun culture in general and not assault rifles specifically. I personally think outlawing handguns would do far more good and make a lot more sense than assault rifles.

And how do you propose going about this?

[michigancat]

I think a good start would be to ban the manufacturing and sales of handguns for civilian use.

[0.42]

It should be possible to ban stupid people, that way goEMAW and tmb can run the country together

[HeinBallz]

I think a good start would be to ban the manufacturing and sales of handguns for civilian use.

Thank god we don't live in a democracy, right?

[michigancat]

I think a good start would be to ban the manufacturing and sales of handguns for civilian use.

Thank god we don't live in a democracy, right?

wut

[mocat]

The argument that a semi-automatic AR with 100 rounds is less dangerous than a handgun, because it has a reputation for jamming, has got to be a troll. HB you're trolling right?

[ChiComCat]

When you look at statistics of gun related deaths and guns per capita in the world, it seems pretty clear that the guns are killing people.  If people killed people then population statistics would correspond with gun related deaths.

[wetwillie]

he probably could have been more efficient with a katana.  He wouldn't have had to reload.