Author Topic: oscar Weber already realizes that his program is fragile (Read 8544 times)

MakeItRain · « **on:** May 15, 2012, 11:55:41 PM »

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One more note from Weber Reply

He absolutely is not trying to schedule WichitaState.

Weber says there's no reasonfor a school like K-State to be in a game like that. It's high-risk, low-reward.

Said he's more likely to schedulemajor-conference schools. He used Florida as an example of the games he'd like to play. Healso noted that when he was at SIU he thought everyone should play them, but changed as soon as he was on the other side of things.

Again, you can read the full Weber interview in this month's Powercat Illustrated.

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Next time you talk to him you should ask him if he feels this way why in the world did he play other state schools from Illinois his last 3 years there.

He played not one but at least two in state mid majors in each of his last three years. It seems good guy oscar is a little dishonest.

2011-2012 Loyola Chicago, Illinois State,SIU-Edwardsville 2010-2011 Southern Illinois, Illinois-Chicago 2009-2010 Bradley,SIU-Edwardsville

I'd love to know what he deems differentaboutK-State and theBig 12thathescheduledthesegames at Illinois but feels thathecan't here. I'm also interested in how this is spun by those who think Weber can do no wrong.

p1k3 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 16, 2012, 12:26:30 AM »

Should be a Boyds Oil Can hate thread by the time i wake up tomorrow

michigancat · « **Reply #2 on:** May 16, 2012, 12:29:38 AM »

To be fair, he lost to uic. I'm sure that's a factor in his change of heart.

Trim · « **Reply #3 on:** May 16, 2012, 12:30:02 AM »

Love the B.O.C.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #4 on:** May 16, 2012, 01:01:53 AM »

Quote from: michigancat on May 16, 2012, 12:29:38 AM

To be fair, he lost to uic. I'm sure that's a factor in his change of heart.

Did it factor in the equation when he scheduled three in state opponents the year after he lost to UIC? Did he plan on scheduling five Illinois schools in the non con last season?

fr@ck me · « **Reply #5 on:** May 16, 2012, 07:58:48 AM »

So Webers stance is the same as Huggins and Martin? good to know. a bunch of butt hurt WSU fans will hate it but I mean who really cares?

pissclams · « **Reply #6 on:** May 16, 2012, 08:38:17 AM »

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #7 on:** May 16, 2012, 08:44:13 AM »

chum1 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 16, 2012, 08:54:10 AM »

thank god weber understands this.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #9 on:** May 16, 2012, 09:47:09 AM »

Quote from: fr@ck me on May 16, 2012, 07:58:48 AM

So Webers stance is the same as Huggins and Martin? good to know. a bunch of butt hurt WSU fans will hate it but I mean who really cares?

That wasn't Frank Martin's public stance at all. Frankly I don't give a damn about WSU, I've never clamored for a game although I have no idea what we're afraid of. I'm more interested in why the sudden change in philosophy for good ol oscar. The reason he gave Rob was clearly a lie. I suppose when you're battling The Valley for recruits it isn't a good idea to play and potentially lose to Valley teams. Nevermind I think I found the answer. Carry on.

kstate4life · « **Reply #10 on:** May 16, 2012, 09:57:25 AM »

Seriously, who gives a eff about WSU. I think it is hilarious we never play them and their fans get pissed off about it. Why should we start now, and Weber is right... there is NO upside to playing them. Beating them does nothing, losing to them could hurt a lot.

pissclams · « **Reply #11 on:** May 16, 2012, 10:00:54 AM »

oscar weber, convicted liar

ChiComCat · « **Reply #12 on:** May 16, 2012, 10:08:20 AM »

I would imagine coming from SIU, maybe he realized how these games help mid-majors and wanted to pay it forward in Illinois. Now that he's been fired, he probably doesn't give a crap about anyone else.

AbeFroman · « **Reply #13 on:** May 16, 2012, 10:11:28 AM »

I too wish he'd be honest. Just come out and say it, WSU is small timey and not worth a 5 second thought.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #14 on:** May 16, 2012, 10:14:45 AM »

It would seem to me that context of scheduling should be pointed out. I suppose oscar should "answer" for scheduling the SIU game, but the Illinois State and Bradley games were both in tournaments. UIC was a game at the United Center. My guess is SIU was a special case because of his relationship with the school and Lowry. I wouldn't equate Loyola-Chicago, SIU-Edwardsville, or UIC to WSU. Those are more like scheduling UMKC.

ChiComCat · « **Reply #15 on:** May 16, 2012, 10:20:31 AM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on May 16, 2012, 10:14:45 AM

It would seem to me that context of scheduling should be pointed out. I suppose oscar should "answer" for scheduling the SIU game, but the Illinois State, Bradley, and Ill-Chicago games were all in tournaments. My guess is SIU was a special case because of his relationship with the school and Lowry. I wouldn't equate Loyola-Chicago or SIU-Edwardsvilleto WSU. Those are more like scheduling UMKC.

Don't even think about it oscar

kso_FAN · « **Reply #16 on:** May 16, 2012, 10:23:02 AM »

Quote from: ChiCat on May 16, 2012, 10:20:31 AM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on May 16, 2012, 10:14:45 AM
It would seem to me that context of scheduling should be pointed out. I suppose oscar should "answer" for scheduling the SIU game, but the Illinois State, Bradley, and Ill-Chicago games were all in tournaments. My guess is SIU was a special case because of his relationship with the school and Lowry. I wouldn't equate Loyola-Chicago or SIU-Edwardsvilleto WSU. Those are more like scheduling UMKC.

Don't even think about it oscar

We need a revenge game with UMKC.

Also, I edited my post because UIC was not part of a tournament, but a game at United Center in Chicago.

yoga-like_abana · « **Reply #17 on:** May 16, 2012, 10:24:22 AM »

well you can definitely tell its the off season. who honestly gives a eff about this?

kso_FAN · « **Reply #18 on:** May 16, 2012, 10:26:03 AM »

Quote from: yoga-like_abana on May 16, 2012, 10:24:22 AM

well you can definitely tell its the off season. who honestly gives a eff about this?

I think MIR does.

I don't too much, but I thought adding some context was fair. I suppose oscar could still be considered a liar, but a little bit less of a liar.

ChiComCat · « **Reply #19 on:** May 16, 2012, 10:28:59 AM »

As much as I do not like Weberhire, I have no idea why anybody cares about this.

And _FAN, I am ok with never playing UMKC ever again. But if we do, I will be totally pumped for that game.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #20 on:** May 16, 2012, 10:31:33 AM »

Quote from: ChiCat on May 16, 2012, 10:28:59 AM

As much as I do not like Weberhire, I have no idea why anybody cares about this.

And _FAN, I am ok with never playing UMKC ever again. But if we do, I will be totally pumped for that game.

If we get UMKC for a cheap local guaranteed game I'm good with it. Even better if they change their name to just University of Kansas City.

pissclams · « **Reply #21 on:** May 16, 2012, 10:47:23 AM »

Quote from: yoga-like_abana on May 16, 2012, 10:24:22 AM

well you can definitely tell its the off season. who honestly gives a eff about this?

posters of substance

MakeItRain · « **Reply #22 on:** May 16, 2012, 10:54:02 AM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on May 16, 2012, 10:14:45 AM

It would seem to me that context of scheduling should be pointed out. I suppose oscar should "answer" for scheduling the SIU game, but the Illinois State and Bradley games were both in tournaments. UIC was a game at the United Center. My guess is SIU was a special case because of his relationship with the school and Lowry. I wouldn't equate Loyola-Chicago, SIU-Edwardsville, or UIC to WSU. Those are more like scheduling UMKC.

Those are very fair points. How in the hell did he keep getting matched up against Illinois valley schools in tournaments, seems weird.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #23 on:** May 16, 2012, 10:57:00 AM »

Quote from: pissclams on May 16, 2012, 10:47:23 AM

Quote from: yoga-like_abana on May 16, 2012, 10:24:22 AM
well you can definitely tell its the off season. who honestly gives a eff about this?

posters of substance

My goodness, speaking of butthurt. Go find your bottle, or your teddy bear or get your diaper changed. Whatever the source of your infant like whining is, resolve it.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #24 on:** May 16, 2012, 11:06:40 AM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on May 16, 2012, 10:54:02 AM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on May 16, 2012, 10:14:45 AM
It would seem to me that context of scheduling should be pointed out. I suppose oscar should "answer" for scheduling the SIU game, but the Illinois State and Bradley games were both in tournaments. UIC was a game at the United Center. My guess is SIU was a special case because of his relationship with the school and Lowry. I wouldn't equate Loyola-Chicago, SIU-Edwardsville, or UIC to WSU. Those are more like scheduling UMKC.

Those are very fair points. How in the hell did he keep getting matched up against Illinois valley schools in tournaments, seems weird.

I agree, its really weird. They played one in Cancun and one in Vegas.

I will say that I'm sure part of oscar's rationale for saying Wichita State is "lose-lose" was actually losing several of those games. To me the biggest thing oscar needs to answer is how he managed to lose games to Bradley and UIC. UIC won 7 games the year they beat Illinois and Bradley finished 1 game over .500. Those are 2 terrible losses and as always has been those types of bad losses the last several years are the biggest concern I have with oscar.