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Re: steele
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2012, 02:43:46 AM »
If Snyder continues winning while continuing to be constantly out gained by a lot game after game, he should be burnt as a witch. 

Also, this is why I think we won't be as successful this season.  That kind of stuff catches up to you, especially if any key positions graduate talent for lesser talent. 

Just losing Guidry could lose us half our games.
It doesn't "catch up with you."  That's garbage and it's not true.

We might lose some games next season.  It has nothing to do with last year, though.

I agree that last year has nothing to do with this year.

I disagree that putting up fewer yards than your opponent game after game doesn't catch up with you.  Odds tells you that doing what we did last year, given the yards stat, is not sustainable.  I mean, how many times has that happened before?
I don't want to say that we gave up a lot of yards "by design" last season, because obviously, we would've liked to have given up fewer yards.  However, our defense was all "bend don't break" which is actually a really good strategy against today's spread offenses, for two reasons. 

1. When (if) teams get down inside the 30 yard line, their spreads don't work as well because there is less field to run around.  I bet if you look at our red zone defense from last year, it was near the top in the Big 12.  So, outside of the 30 yard line, playing super tight and being committed to sell out to stop 7 yard pass routes is stupid, because if you get beat over the top, it's a TD.  So rope a dope them into the 30 yard line.  If you stop them, great, but them getting to the 30 isn't fatal.  Point is, all yardage isn't created equal for spread offenses and I consider the yards from their 20 to our 30 to be a bit emptier.

2.  When teams pass 50-60 times a game, they're going to turn it over.  Let them throw it all over the field.  That's risky.

So these teams that play against us can gobble up tons of yards, but as long as those yards don't come inside of our 30 yard line, we're in great shape.  In addition, if the yards they do gobble up are done through 60 passes, those are very risky yards.

I don't think we were overly lucky last season.

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?CONTENT_ID=165476&DB_OEM_ID=10410


So turns out we were the worst red zone defense in the big 12, Looks like #1 is complete horseshit.
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Guess numero dos is the sole reason we won last year.

If there's another explanation, I'm all ears (eyes?).


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Re: steele
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2012, 06:03:54 AM »
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« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2012, 06:19:09 AM »
So, he says what everyone else is saying:  We're better than last year, but probably won't get to 10 wins.  BFD, TCU and WV are going to be tougher on us than A&M and Moo were last year, so he's got a good shot at being absolutely correct.
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Re: steele
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2012, 08:14:23 AM »
Hi guys, I think our offense could be somewhat better than last years. Could that help us win some games?  I think so.

I agree. I'm still worried about our defense, but I see no reason why we don't win at least 9 games. 10 is the expectation.

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« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2012, 08:53:35 AM »
The main reason our youngsters had a great deal of success was because of a little thing called "intestinal fortitude" (see #5 on my 16 goals for success).
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Re: steele
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2012, 10:16:01 AM »
If Snyder continues winning while continuing to be constantly out gained by a lot game after game, he should be burnt as a witch. 

Also, this is why I think we won't be as successful this season.  That kind of stuff catches up to you, especially if any key positions graduate talent for lesser talent. 

Just losing Guidry could lose us half our games.
It doesn't "catch up with you."  That's garbage and it's not true.

We might lose some games next season.  It has nothing to do with last year, though.

I agree that last year has nothing to do with this year.

I disagree that putting up fewer yards than your opponent game after game doesn't catch up with you.  Odds tells you that doing what we did last year, given the yards stat, is not sustainable.  I mean, how many times has that happened before?
I don't want to say that we gave up a lot of yards "by design" last season, because obviously, we would've liked to have given up fewer yards.  However, our defense was all "bend don't break" which is actually a really good strategy against today's spread offenses, for two reasons. 

1. When (if) teams get down inside the 30 yard line, their spreads don't work as well because there is less field to run around.  I bet if you look at our red zone defense from last year, it was near the top in the Big 12.  So, outside of the 30 yard line, playing super tight and being committed to sell out to stop 7 yard pass routes is stupid, because if you get beat over the top, it's a TD.  So rope a dope them into the 30 yard line.  If you stop them, great, but them getting to the 30 isn't fatal.  Point is, all yardage isn't created equal for spread offenses and I consider the yards from their 20 to our 30 to be a bit emptier.

2.  When teams pass 50-60 times a game, they're going to turn it over.  Let them throw it all over the field.  That's risky.

So these teams that play against us can gobble up tons of yards, but as long as those yards don't come inside of our 30 yard line, we're in great shape.  In addition, if the yards they do gobble up are done through 60 passes, those are very risky yards.

I don't think we were overly lucky last season.

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?CONTENT_ID=165476&DB_OEM_ID=10410


So turns out we were the worst red zone defense in the big 12, Looks like #1 is complete horseshit.

Terrible red zone defenses don't do this


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Re: steele
« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2012, 12:34:18 PM »
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Re: steele
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2012, 01:11:59 PM »
If Snyder continues winning while continuing to be constantly out gained by a lot game after game, he should be burnt as a witch. 

Also, this is why I think we won't be as successful this season.  That kind of stuff catches up to you, especially if any key positions graduate talent for lesser talent. 

Just losing Guidry could lose us half our games.
It doesn't "catch up with you."  That's garbage and it's not true.

We might lose some games next season.  It has nothing to do with last year, though.

I agree that last year has nothing to do with this year.

I disagree that putting up fewer yards than your opponent game after game doesn't catch up with you.  Odds tells you that doing what we did last year, given the yards stat, is not sustainable.  I mean, how many times has that happened before?
I don't want to say that we gave up a lot of yards "by design" last season, because obviously, we would've liked to have given up fewer yards.  However, our defense was all "bend don't break" which is actually a really good strategy against today's spread offenses, for two reasons. 

1. When (if) teams get down inside the 30 yard line, their spreads don't work as well because there is less field to run around.  I bet if you look at our red zone defense from last year, it was near the top in the Big 12.  So, outside of the 30 yard line, playing super tight and being committed to sell out to stop 7 yard pass routes is stupid, because if you get beat over the top, it's a TD.  So rope a dope them into the 30 yard line.  If you stop them, great, but them getting to the 30 isn't fatal.  Point is, all yardage isn't created equal for spread offenses and I consider the yards from their 20 to our 30 to be a bit emptier.

2.  When teams pass 50-60 times a game, they're going to turn it over.  Let them throw it all over the field.  That's risky.

So these teams that play against us can gobble up tons of yards, but as long as those yards don't come inside of our 30 yard line, we're in great shape.  In addition, if the yards they do gobble up are done through 60 passes, those are very risky yards.

I don't think we were overly lucky last season.

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewContent.dbml?CONTENT_ID=165476&DB_OEM_ID=10410


So turns out we were the worst red zone defense in the big 12, Looks like #1 is complete horseshit.

Terrible red zone defenses don't do this



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Re: steele
« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2012, 03:30:48 PM »
We were an eyelash away from being 6-6 last year, and there hasn't exactly been a massive influx of talent at key positions either.

If you look at it the other way, we were an eyelash away from being 11-1 in the regular season and winning the Big 12.  Just depends on if you're a half empty or half full kind of person.

Also hasn't been a massive exodus of talent either.  David Garrett and a couple offensive linemen are the only meaningful players we lose.

The DT's we lost are both meaningful...and I think you'll see that right off the bat this year : (
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« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2012, 03:49:00 PM »
We were an eyelash away from being 6-6 last year, and there hasn't exactly been a massive influx of talent at key positions either.

If you look at it the other way, we were an eyelash away from being 11-1 in the regular season and winning the Big 12.  Just depends on if you're a half empty or half full kind of person.

Also hasn't been a massive exodus of talent either.  David Garrett and a couple offensive linemen are the only meaningful players we lose.

The DT's we lost are both meaningful...and I think you'll see that right off the bat this year : (

Agreed.   Arthur may have a very long year.

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Re: steele
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2012, 03:58:51 PM »
I think dlew is right to a point on our D. The goal was to lengthen the drive and take advantage of their mistakes. Most college offenses are going to screw up, be it a turnover or penalty, if you make them snap it 15-20 times to get in the endzone. That was our goal. Then control the clock like a [redacted]

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« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2012, 11:15:08 AM »
We were an eyelash away from being 6-6 last year, and there hasn't exactly been a massive influx of talent at key positions either.

If you look at it the other way, we were an eyelash away from being 11-1 in the regular season and winning the Big 12.  Just depends on if you're a half empty or half full kind of person.

Also hasn't been a massive exodus of talent either.  David Garrett and a couple offensive linemen are the only meaningful players we lose.

The DT's we lost are both meaningful...and I think you'll see that right off the bat this year : (

Both turned out to be pretty good players last year.  Of course this time last year we thought both were steaming piles of horse crap.  We don't really know for sure how much we'll miss these guys because we dont' know who is going to step up and who won't.  The DE's and the LB's are both far better then last year so that will help.  Jordan Voelker and a half cripppled guy started for us at DE last year.  The half crippled guy is now only 1/4 crippled and the other DE had 7 sacks in a part time role last season.  We know we have at least one solid DT going into the season which is one more then we knew we had going into last year.   

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Re: steele
« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2012, 09:56:01 AM »
#37. I should kick your ass. 

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Re: steele
« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2012, 05:46:11 PM »
We were an eyelash away from being 6-6 last year, and there hasn't exactly been a massive influx of talent at key positions either.

If you look at it the other way, we were an eyelash away from being 11-1 in the regular season and winning the Big 12.  Just depends on if you're a half empty or half full kind of person.

Also hasn't been a massive exodus of talent either.  David Garrett and a couple offensive linemen are the only meaningful players we lose.

The DT's we lost are both meaningful...and I think you'll see that right off the bat this year : (

Yeah, what are we going to do without those stud, high round DTs? :rolleyes:

Depth is all that matters at that position if you don't have a great player. We have a bunch of 300lb guys, so we'll be good. Just as good as last year.


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Re: steele
« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2012, 08:07:08 PM »
We were an eyelash away from being 6-6 last year, and there hasn't exactly been a massive influx of talent at key positions either.

If you look at it the other way, we were an eyelash away from being 11-1 in the regular season and winning the Big 12.  Just depends on if you're a half empty or half full kind of person.

Also hasn't been a massive exodus of talent either.  David Garrett and a couple offensive linemen are the only meaningful players we lose.

The DT's we lost are both meaningful...and I think you'll see that right off the bat this year : (

Yeah, what are we going to do without those stud, high round DTs? :rolleyes:

Depth is all that matters at that position if you don't have a great player. We have a bunch of 300lb guys, so we'll be good. Just as good as last year.

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Re: steele
« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2012, 08:46:48 PM »
We were an eyelash away from being 6-6 last year, and there hasn't exactly been a massive influx of talent at key positions either.

If you look at it the other way, we were an eyelash away from being 11-1 in the regular season and winning the Big 12.  Just depends on if you're a half empty or half full kind of person.

Also hasn't been a massive exodus of talent either.  David Garrett and a couple offensive linemen are the only meaningful players we lose.

The DT's we lost are both meaningful...and I think you'll see that right off the bat this year : (

Yeah, what are we going to do without those stud, high round DTs? :rolleyes:

Depth is all that matters at that position if you don't have a great player. We have a bunch of 300lb guys, so we'll be good. Just as good as last year.

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