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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #125 on: April 18, 2012, 02:41:57 PM »
Beems, where will KU finish in the Big XII?

this.  I want to know where beems believes his "one year wonders" will do for KU in year one.  Since he's bragging about stars and Weiss' talents and those of his assistants I would estimate anything less than 8 wins as a predicto would indicate beems doesn't believe his own words.

shut up.

beems?



Still waiting to see who else Weis brings in.  I think a few more impact transfers could be on the way.  Right now, with the schedule, I'd say 7-5 at best.  KU still has a lot of holes on the defensive side of the ball, and the Big 12 is no joke.  Basically, I'm hoping that KU shows improvement and manages to be competitive at least.  I'm not expecting Weis to just come in and work miracles right away. 

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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #126 on: April 18, 2012, 02:43:46 PM »
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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #127 on: April 18, 2012, 03:26:05 PM »
Beems, where will KU finish in the Big XII?

this.  I want to know where beems believes his "one year wonders" will do for KU in year one.  Since he's bragging about stars and Weiss' talents and those of his assistants I would estimate anything less than 8 wins as a predicto would indicate beems doesn't believe his own words.

shut up.

beems?



Still waiting to see who else Weis brings in.  I think a few more impact transfers could be on the way.  Right now, with the schedule, I'd say 7-5 at best.  KU still has a lot of holes on the defensive side of the ball, and the Big 12 is no joke.  Basically, I'm hoping that KU shows improvement and manages to be competitive at least.  I'm not expecting Weis to just come in and work miracles right away.

Why not?  You have instigated a 6 page thread bragging about the collection of 4 and 5 stars Weis is bringing in and now you need more info?  You stated Weis just had a tough few years at Notre Dame because of his assistants but he knows what he's doing now. 

So, if you have the assistants and the players are you expecting the Patriots roster to transfer to KU or something?

Let's do this...give me your W/L predictos

South Dakota State
Rice
TCU
@ Northern Illinois
@ Kansas State
Oklahoma State
@ Oklahoma
Texas
@ Baylor
@ Texas Tech
Iowa State
@ West Virginia
Academics is a stupid word.

Academic schools are synonymous for being rich, powerful and exclusive, three things Kansas State is not.

So when people throw the word "academics" around, that's really what they are referencing.

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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #128 on: April 18, 2012, 04:07:49 PM »
I'd say 4-5 wins would be the upper limit for them. Win against SDS,Rice, Northern Ill(On the road but a BCS team should win this 95% of the time), and maybe win 1 or2 against ISU Tech and Baylor.

The sad part is 4 wins would be solid improvement.

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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #129 on: April 18, 2012, 04:14:14 PM »
Beems, where will KU finish in the Big XII?

this.  I want to know where beems believes his "one year wonders" will do for KU in year one.  Since he's bragging about stars and Weiss' talents and those of his assistants I would estimate anything less than 8 wins as a predicto would indicate beems doesn't believe his own words.

shut up.

beems?



Still waiting to see who else Weis brings in.  I think a few more impact transfers could be on the way.  Right now, with the schedule, I'd say 7-5 at best.  KU still has a lot of holes on the defensive side of the ball, and the Big 12 is no joke.  Basically, I'm hoping that KU shows improvement and manages to be competitive at least.  I'm not expecting Weis to just come in and work miracles right away.

Why not?  You have instigated a 6 page thread bragging about the collection of 4 and 5 stars Weis is bringing in and now you need more info?  You stated Weis just had a tough few years at Notre Dame because of his assistants but he knows what he's doing now. 

So, if you have the assistants and the players are you expecting the Patriots roster to transfer to KU or something?

Let's do this...give me your W/L predictos

South Dakota State
Rice
TCU
@ Northern Illinois
@ Kansas State
Oklahoma State
@ Oklahoma
Texas
@ Baylor
@ Texas Tech
Iowa State
@ West Virginia



KU will be improved, but the Big 12 is tough, especially with the addition of West Virginia and TCU.  KU needs to win the three non-con games, and then find a few wins between Baylor, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech.  I don't see us winning many road games, but you never know.  All I know is that the program is better now than it was last year.

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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #130 on: April 18, 2012, 05:06:25 PM »
Beems, where will KU finish in the Big XII?

this.  I want to know where beems believes his "one year wonders" will do for KU in year one.  Since he's bragging about stars and Weiss' talents and those of his assistants I would estimate anything less than 8 wins as a predicto would indicate beems doesn't believe his own words.

shut up.

beems?



Still waiting to see who else Weis brings in.  I think a few more impact transfers could be on the way.  Right now, with the schedule, I'd say 7-5 at best.  KU still has a lot of holes on the defensive side of the ball, and the Big 12 is no joke.  Basically, I'm hoping that KU shows improvement and manages to be competitive at least.  I'm not expecting Weis to just come in and work miracles right away.

Why not?  You have instigated a 6 page thread bragging about the collection of 4 and 5 stars Weis is bringing in and now you need more info?  You stated Weis just had a tough few years at Notre Dame because of his assistants but he knows what he's doing now. 

So, if you have the assistants and the players are you expecting the Patriots roster to transfer to KU or something?

Let's do this...give me your W/L predictos

South Dakota State
Rice
TCU
@ Northern Illinois
@ Kansas State
Oklahoma State
@ Oklahoma
Texas
@ Baylor
@ Texas Tech
Iowa State
@ West Virginia



KU will be improved, but the Big 12 is tough, especially with the addition of West Virginia and TCU.  KU needs to win the three non-con games, and then find a few wins between Baylor, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech.  I don't see us winning many road games, but you never know.  All I know is that the program is better now than it was last year.

you stated 7-5 at best.  I presented the schedule for you to show me where you get those seven wins.  Show me the four conference wins because that will get you to 7-5.  I don't see a 4-5 KU team in conference play next year.  I can say with 100% certainty that KU will NOT beat TCU, KSU, OU, Texas, Baylor, Texas Tech, or West Virginia. 

Academics is a stupid word.

Academic schools are synonymous for being rich, powerful and exclusive, three things Kansas State is not.

So when people throw the word "academics" around, that's really what they are referencing.

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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #131 on: April 18, 2012, 05:27:33 PM »
Beems, where will KU finish in the Big XII?

this.  I want to know where beems believes his "one year wonders" will do for KU in year one.  Since he's bragging about stars and Weiss' talents and those of his assistants I would estimate anything less than 8 wins as a predicto would indicate beems doesn't believe his own words.

shut up.

beems?



Still waiting to see who else Weis brings in.  I think a few more impact transfers could be on the way.  Right now, with the schedule, I'd say 7-5 at best.  KU still has a lot of holes on the defensive side of the ball, and the Big 12 is no joke.  Basically, I'm hoping that KU shows improvement and manages to be competitive at least.  I'm not expecting Weis to just come in and work miracles right away.

Why not?  You have instigated a 6 page thread bragging about the collection of 4 and 5 stars Weis is bringing in and now you need more info?  You stated Weis just had a tough few years at Notre Dame because of his assistants but he knows what he's doing now. 

So, if you have the assistants and the players are you expecting the Patriots roster to transfer to KU or something?

Let's do this...give me your W/L predictos

South Dakota State
Rice
TCU
@ Northern Illinois
@ Kansas State
Oklahoma State
@ Oklahoma
Texas
@ Baylor
@ Texas Tech
Iowa State
@ West Virginia



KU will be improved, but the Big 12 is tough, especially with the addition of West Virginia and TCU.  KU needs to win the three non-con games, and then find a few wins between Baylor, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech.  I don't see us winning many road games, but you never know.  All I know is that the program is better now than it was last year.

you stated 7-5 at best.  I presented the schedule for you to show me where you get those seven wins.  Show me the four conference wins because that will get you to 7-5.  I don't see a 4-5 KU team in conference play next year.  I can say with 100% certainty that KU will NOT beat TCU, KSU, OU, Texas, Baylor, Texas Tech, or West Virginia.



No you can't.  No one expected K-State and Baylor to finish 10-3 last year.  KU could easily beat one of those teams on any given night.  Look, I realize that the 12-1 Orange Bowl season killed you inside, and you're scared shitless of the things Weis is doing with the current football program, but at least have some dignity. 

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Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #132 on: April 18, 2012, 05:30:16 PM »
7-5...

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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #133 on: April 18, 2012, 05:58:08 PM »
7-5...



If everything goes right....


South Dakota St.
Rice
Northern Illinois
TCU
Texas/Baylor
Texas Tech
Iowa State


Laugh all you want, but KU was up on Baylor last year, 28-7, before collapsing in the 4th quarter, and that was with Turner Gill on the sidelines for KU and Blake Griffin on the sidelines for Baylor.  KU also had a really good shot to beat Iowa State in Ames and had a 21-0 lead on Tech.  TCU is good, but they did lose to SMU, and struggled at times against Mountain West competition.  I don't think they're going to just come into the Big 12 and dominate.


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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #135 on: April 18, 2012, 06:01:30 PM »
Beems, where will KU finish in the Big XII?

this.  I want to know where beems believes his "one year wonders" will do for KU in year one.  Since he's bragging about stars and Weiss' talents and those of his assistants I would estimate anything less than 8 wins as a predicto would indicate beems doesn't believe his own words.

shut up.

beems?



Still waiting to see who else Weis brings in.  I think a few more impact transfers could be on the way.  Right now, with the schedule, I'd say 7-5 at best.  KU still has a lot of holes on the defensive side of the ball, and the Big 12 is no joke.  Basically, I'm hoping that KU shows improvement and manages to be competitive at least.  I'm not expecting Weis to just come in and work miracles right away.

Why not?  You have instigated a 6 page thread bragging about the collection of 4 and 5 stars Weis is bringing in and now you need more info?  You stated Weis just had a tough few years at Notre Dame because of his assistants but he knows what he's doing now. 

So, if you have the assistants and the players are you expecting the Patriots roster to transfer to KU or something?

Let's do this...give me your W/L predictos

South Dakota State
Rice
TCU
@ Northern Illinois
@ Kansas State
Oklahoma State
@ Oklahoma
Texas
@ Baylor
@ Texas Tech
Iowa State
@ West Virginia



KU will be improved, but the Big 12 is tough, especially with the addition of West Virginia and TCU.  KU needs to win the three non-con games, and then find a few wins between Baylor, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech.  I don't see us winning many road games, but you never know.  All I know is that the program is better now than it was last year.

you stated 7-5 at best.  I presented the schedule for you to show me where you get those seven wins.  Show me the four conference wins because that will get you to 7-5.  I don't see a 4-5 KU team in conference play next year.  I can say with 100% certainty that KU will NOT beat TCU, KSU, OU, Texas, Baylor, Texas Tech, or West Virginia.



No you can't.  No one expected K-State and Baylor to finish 10-3 last year.  KU could easily beat one of those teams on any given night.  Look, I realize that the 12-1 Orange Bowl season killed you inside, and you're scared shitless of the things Weis is doing with the current football program, but at least have some dignity.

your words glanced right off me as casually as a light spring breeze.  Don't compare a team going into it's 3rd year under Snyder vs. that of a 1st year under Weis.  First of all, there is zero comparison of the two as head coaches.  Secondly, KU is coming off a two season stretch in which they've won 1 conference game, total.

Why did you bring up the Orange Bowl?  Nobody here cares about that.  KU had one great season in which they didn't face any of the top teams from the South (OU, Texas, and Tech would have destroyed KU). 

Nothing about a program with Weis scares me.  Nothing.  He doesn't have tough football teams.  His band of mental midgets in South Bend went 15-21 his last three seasons.  Let that sink in...15-21.  Don't blame Ty Willingham for his final three years.  That is ludicrous.  By year three in Manhattan Snyder had many of his own players and went 10-3. 

The old "on any given night" is like a candle in the wind.  I'll repeat.  KU isn't beating TCU or Texas @ home (neither will be close) and they certainly won't win road contests at KSU, OU, Baylor, Tech, or West Virginia.

Obviously you don't know what many of these teams have coming back.
Academics is a stupid word.

Academic schools are synonymous for being rich, powerful and exclusive, three things Kansas State is not.

So when people throw the word "academics" around, that's really what they are referencing.

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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #136 on: April 18, 2012, 06:09:53 PM »
7-5...



If everything goes right....


South Dakota St.
Rice
Northern Illinois
TCU
Texas/Baylor
Texas Tech
Iowa State


Laugh all you want, but KU was up on Baylor last year, 28-7, before collapsing in the 4th quarter, and that was with Turner Gill on the sidelines for KU and Blake Griffin on the sidelines for Baylor.  KU also had a really good shot to beat Iowa State in Ames and had a 21-0 lead on Tech.  TCU is good, but they did lose to SMU, and struggled at times against Mountain West competition.  I don't think they're going to just come into the Big 12 and dominate.


 :dunno:

 :facepalm:

TCU had plenty of first year starters last year.  They will not this year.  Their defense will be all over you and their offense will go right through you.  That is a program that expects to win...not some first year build up with 4 and 5 star 5th year bust transfers.

Texas may not allow you to cross the 50.  You have zero shot at winning that game.

Tech on the road?  Nope.  I believe they scored 34 unanswered in Lawrence last year.  So now you're going to beat them on the road? 

Baylor still has plenty of talent.  The QB replacing ROBERT griffin won on the road in Columbia a few years ago and looked good against Tech last year.  Most of their defense returns.  I found it humorous that you mentioned Baylor was down 28-7 at KU last year...and then they exploded for about 400 yards of offense in about 10 minutes of game time.  They sleep walked and then turned it on when they had to.

I would put 5 wins as the best case scenario for KU next year.

BTW, KSU will truck KU by 4 TDs or more in Manhattan next year.  Mark it down.
Academics is a stupid word.

Academic schools are synonymous for being rich, powerful and exclusive, three things Kansas State is not.

So when people throw the word "academics" around, that's really what they are referencing.

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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #137 on: April 18, 2012, 08:15:21 PM »
BTW, KSU will truck KU by 4 TDs or more in Manhattan next year.  Mark it down.

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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #138 on: April 18, 2012, 08:18:15 PM »

7-5...



If everything goes right....


South Dakota St.
Rice
Northern Illinois
TCU
Texas/Baylor
Texas Tech
Iowa State


Laugh all you want, but KU was up on Baylor last year, 28-7, before collapsing in the 4th quarter, and that was with Turner Gill on the sidelines for KU and Blake Griffin on the sideline for Baylor

Yeah what a moron  :lol:
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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #139 on: April 18, 2012, 08:46:25 PM »
Lots of tough talk from a fanbase that hasn't experienced a bowl win since 2002.  Kiss my ass, hayseeds. 

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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #140 on: April 18, 2012, 08:47:32 PM »
Beems, where will KU finish in the Big XII?

this.  I want to know where beems believes his "one year wonders" will do for KU in year one.  Since he's bragging about stars and Weiss' talents and those of his assistants I would estimate anything less than 8 wins as a predicto would indicate beems doesn't believe his own words.

shut up.

beems?



Still waiting to see who else Weis brings in.  I think a few more impact transfers could be on the way.  Right now, with the schedule, I'd say 7-5 at best.  KU still has a lot of holes on the defensive side of the ball, and the Big 12 is no joke.  Basically, I'm hoping that KU shows improvement and manages to be competitive at least.  I'm not expecting Weis to just come in and work miracles right away.

Why not?  You have instigated a 6 page thread bragging about the collection of 4 and 5 stars Weis is bringing in and now you need more info?  You stated Weis just had a tough few years at Notre Dame because of his assistants but he knows what he's doing now. 

So, if you have the assistants and the players are you expecting the Patriots roster to transfer to KU or something?

Let's do this...give me your W/L predictos

South Dakota State
Rice
TCU
@ Northern Illinois
@ Kansas State
Oklahoma State
@ Oklahoma
Texas
@ Baylor
@ Texas Tech
Iowa State
@ West Virginia



KU will be improved, but the Big 12 is tough, especially with the addition of West Virginia and TCU.  KU needs to win the three non-con games, and then find a few wins between Baylor, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech.  I don't see us winning many road games, but you never know.  All I know is that the program is better now than it was last year.

you stated 7-5 at best.  I presented the schedule for you to show me where you get those seven wins.  Show me the four conference wins because that will get you to 7-5.  I don't see a 4-5 KU team in conference play next year.  I can say with 100% certainty that KU will NOT beat TCU, KSU, OU, Texas, Baylor, Texas Tech, or West Virginia.



No you can't.  No one expected K-State and Baylor to finish 10-3 last year.  KU could easily beat one of those teams on any given night.  Look, I realize that the 12-1 Orange Bowl season killed you inside, and you're scared shitless of the things Weis is doing with the current football program, but at least have some dignity.

your words glanced right off me as casually as a light spring breeze.  Don't compare a team going into it's 3rd year under Snyder vs. that of a 1st year under Weis.  First of all, there is zero comparison of the two as head coaches.  Secondly, KU is coming off a two season stretch in which they've won 1 conference game, total.

Why did you bring up the Orange Bowl?  Nobody here cares about that.  KU had one great season in which they didn't face any of the top teams from the South (OU, Texas, and Tech would have destroyed KU). 

Nothing about a program with Weis scares me.  Nothing.  He doesn't have tough football teams.  His band of mental midgets in South Bend went 15-21 his last three seasons.  Let that sink in...15-21.  Don't blame Ty Willingham for his final three years.  That is ludicrous.  By year three in Manhattan Snyder had many of his own players and went 10-3. 

The old "on any given night" is like a candle in the wind.  I'll repeat.  KU isn't beating TCU or Texas @ home (neither will be close) and they certainly won't win road contests at KSU, OU, Baylor, Tech, or West Virginia.

Obviously you don't know what many of these teams have coming back.



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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #141 on: April 18, 2012, 08:53:27 PM »
Seriously beems, what's wrong? Is it this whole mizzou non-con bball game? You seem really upset. Hope everything is ok.

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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #142 on: April 18, 2012, 08:54:50 PM »
Lots of tough talk from a fanbase that hasn't experienced a bowl win since 2002.  Kiss my ass, hayseeds.

really?  is that all you got?  the ole' "you haven't won a bowl game since '02?  Nah, but won a conference championship since '02 huh?  Played in both the Fiesta and Cotton since '02. 

KU has won two conference games in the past three seasons.  As a matter of fact, KSU won more conference games LAST YEAR, alone, than KU has the past four seasons. 

Is this your real tap out?  I thought the one earlier was a tap out but you came back.  I take it this is your last hoorah for this thread.   You appear to be bloodied and backed up against the ropes. 
Academics is a stupid word.

Academic schools are synonymous for being rich, powerful and exclusive, three things Kansas State is not.

So when people throw the word "academics" around, that's really what they are referencing.

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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #143 on: April 18, 2012, 08:56:43 PM »
Lots of tough talk from a fanbase that hasn't experienced a bowl win since 2002.  Kiss my ass, hayseeds. 

Love this talking point.

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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #144 on: April 18, 2012, 09:01:41 PM »
Lots of tough talk from a fanbase that hasn't experienced a bowl win since 2002.  Kiss my ass, hayseeds. 

Love this talking point.

It is the most adorable thing :3

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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #145 on: April 18, 2012, 09:47:45 PM »
Lots of tough talk from a fanbase that hasn't experienced a bowl win since 2002.  Kiss my ass, hayseeds. 

Love this talking point.

It is the most adorable thing :3

it's even more adorable then his ignorance to a final three years of 15-21 and a firing just to say, "two bcs bowls".  me = shaking head at that one. 
Academics is a stupid word.

Academic schools are synonymous for being rich, powerful and exclusive, three things Kansas State is not.

So when people throw the word "academics" around, that's really what they are referencing.

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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #146 on: April 18, 2012, 09:52:27 PM »
They will be better but it's only because they couldn't be worse.

If I were a ku fan Id actually be worried that Weiss is just a bandaid and he doesn't have any interest in making ku into anything but a final payday for him.

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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #147 on: April 18, 2012, 10:10:50 PM »
Lots of tough talk from a fanbase that hasn't experienced a bowl win since 2002.  Kiss my ass, hayseeds.

really?  is that all you got?  the ole' "you haven't won a bowl game since '02?  Nah, but won a conference championship since '02 huh?  Played in both the Fiesta and Cotton since '02. 

KU has won two conference games in the past three seasons.  As a matter of fact, KSU won more conference games LAST YEAR, alone, than KU has the past four seasons. 

Is this your real tap out?  I thought the one earlier was a tap out but you came back.  I take it this is your last hoorah for this thread.   You appear to be bloodied and backed up against the ropes.



This is all I will say.  KU is improving its talent level, as well as its coaching staff.  That can't be denied.  Will it be good enough to win 6-7 games next year?  I don't know.  I could see 6-6/7-5 if everything played out perfectly for KU.  Not sure how that's even remotely unreasonable, but hey, you're a butthurt clown who has a huge stick up his ass about the fact that KU has dominated K-State in everything for the better part of 100 years. 

I mean, this exact same situation played out a few years ago when Prince was fired and Snyder took over.  K-State brought in a 5th year transfer at QB, and turned around and beat KU after losing, 52-21, the year before.  Do I think KU will beat K-State next year?  No, not at all, but I can tell you that the QB position and the head coach will be better.  I can tell you that the strength and conditioning program has improved by leaps and bounds, and I can also tell you that KU has a ton of talent at the skill positions thanks to several nice recruiting classes and transfers. 

Bottom line is anyone who guarantees a team will lose to team A/B/C/D six months before the season starts is a total f*cking moron.   

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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #148 on: April 18, 2012, 10:12:04 PM »
Seriously beems, what's wrong? Is it this whole mizzou non-con bball game? You seem really upset. Hope everything is ok.


STFU, Heath.  Your pencil dick athletic director hired oscar Weber, and I'm loving every minute of it.  Nothing more, nothing less.

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Re: Another day, another 4-star Army All-American to KU
« Reply #149 on: April 18, 2012, 10:19:11 PM »
Everyone quit pissing OH off.