George Zimmerman is a piece of crap

[felix rex]

"When searching Zimmerman's truck, investigators were stunned to discover that Martin had broken his nose but not his eggs."

[sys]

Nobody is rooting for Zimmerman.

maybe they're rooting against martin?   

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

there are gun people that are unabashedly rooting for the defense because of the implications on their fantasies of someday using their guns

I'm neither a gun nut nor a racist, for what it's worth, I just don't like the idea of sending people to prison for 20 years who very well might be innocent, or at the very least, aren't guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I will admit however, that I resent prosecutors, who are supposedly officers of the court and advocates of justice, telling jurors to "use your heart." The state's entire case depends upon this jury reaching a compromise verdict or voting out of empathy, and I think that's wrong.

[SkinnyBenny]

Yeah, the state's prosecution was definitely a buncha duds.

[eastcat]

there are gun people that are unabashedly rooting for the defense because of the implications on their fantasies of someday using their guns

I'm neither a gun nut nor a racist, for what it's worth, I just don't like the idea of sending people to prison for 20 years who very well might be innocent, or at the very least, aren't guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I will admit however, that I resent prosecutors, who are supposedly officers of the court and advocates of justice, telling jurors to "use your heart." The state's entire case depends upon this jury reaching a compromise verdict or voting out of empathy, and I think that's wrong.

Yup. 

[Trim]

[sys]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57434757-504083/fla-woman-marissa-alexander-gets-20-years-for-warning-shot-did-she-stand-her-ground/

[MakeItRain]

Nobody is rooting for Zimmerman.

maybe they're rooting against martin ?   :dunno:

[SkinnyBenny]

there are gun people that are unabashedly rooting for the defense because of the implications on their fantasies of someday using their guns

I'm neither a gun nut nor a racist, for what it's worth, I just don't like the idea of sending people to prison for 20 years who very well might be innocent, or at the very least, aren't guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I will admit however, that I resent prosecutors, who are supposedly officers of the court and advocates of justice, telling jurors to "use your heart." The state's entire case depends upon this jury reaching a compromise verdict or voting out of empathy, and I think that's wrong.

Yup. 

You guys were both cheering for George long before the prosecutors ever told the jury to use their hearts. In fact I'd be willing to bet you were super duper cheering for George long before the trial even started.

[OregonSmock]

there are gun people that are unabashedly rooting for the defense because of the implications on their fantasies of someday using their guns

I'm neither a gun nut nor a racist, for what it's worth, I just don't like the idea of sending people to prison for 20 years who very well might be innocent, or at the very least, aren't guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I will admit however, that I resent prosecutors, who are supposedly officers of the court and advocates of justice, telling jurors to "use your heart." The state's entire case depends upon this jury reaching a compromise verdict or voting out of empathy, and I think that's wrong.

Yup. 

You guys were both cheering for George long before the prosecutors ever told the jury to use their hearts. In fact I'd be willing to bet you were super duper cheering for George long before the trial even started.

They loved Zimmerman the moment that their heroes, Hannity and Rush, started defending him on conservative talk show radio.

[eastcat]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57434757-504083/fla-woman-marissa-alexander-gets-20-years-for-warning-shot-did-she-stand-her-ground/

Did you read that article? Her husband was in the kitchen, hadn't even approached her yet she went and got her gun out of the garage and started shooting in the house?

Apples to Orangoutang comparison.

[MakeItRain]

 

That guy would be an amazing wrestling heel

[sys]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57434757-504083/fla-woman-marissa-alexander-gets-20-years-for-warning-shot-did-she-stand-her-ground/

Did you read that article? Her husband was in the kitchen, hadn't even approached her yet she went and got her gun out of the garage and started shooting in the house?

Apples to Orangoutang comparison.

i posted a link, i didn't make a comparison.

[MakeItRain]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57434757-504083/fla-woman-marissa-alexander-gets-20-years-for-warning-shot-did-she-stand-her-ground/

Florida

[felix rex]

George Zimmerman has to be the most unlikeable poster child ever. Can you imagine the groundswell of support if he wasn't so zimmermany?

[eastcat]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57434757-504083/fla-woman-marissa-alexander-gets-20-years-for-warning-shot-did-she-stand-her-ground/

Did you read that article? Her husband was in the kitchen, hadn't even approached her yet she went and got her gun out of the garage and started shooting in the house?

Apples to Orangoutang comparison.

i posted a link, i didn't make a comparison.

You posted an article and I made the comparison.

Not sure what you're trying to say.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/13/justice/zimmerman-it-firing/index.html

Sanford, Florida (CNN) -- An employee of the Florida State Attorney's Office who testified that prosecutors withheld evidence from George Zimmerman's defense team has been fired.
 
Ben Kruidbos had been on paid administrative leave since May 28 from his job as director of information technology for the State Attorney's Office.
 
A spokeswoman for Fourth Judicial Circuit State Attorney Angela Corey said Kruidbos was no longer an employee of the office.
 
Kruidbos testified before Zimmerman's trial began that Martin's cell phone contained images of Martin blowing smoke, images of marijuana and deleted text messages regarding a transaction for a firearm and that those images had not been given to Zimmerman's defense team.
 
He received the termination letter, dated July 11, on Friday, the same day jurors began deliberating Zimmerman's case. The letter states: "It has come to our attention that you violated numerous State Attorney's Office (SAO) policies and procedures and have engaged in deliberate misconduct that is especially egregious in light of your position."
 
Kruidbos said that, when he printed a 900-page Florida Department of Law Enforcement report from Martin's cell phone in late 2012 or early 2013, he noticed information was missing.
 
Concerned that attorneys did not have all the information they needed to prepare the case, he said, he reported his concerns to a State Attorney's Office investigator and later to prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda.
 
Kruidbos said he generated a report that was more than three times the size of the one that had been handed over.

[Cire]

Get out of jail free?

[sys]

You posted an article and I made the comparison.

ok.  then, yes, i read the article.

[Dr Rick Daris]

two scenarios...

1) you are in highschool and you are walking through an unfamiliar neighborhood at night and an older guy is following you in a truck and then gets out and starts chasing you

2) a highschooler is punching you in the middle of a of a middle class neighborhood backyard


which one is scarier?

[Frankenklein]

two scenarios...

1) you are in highschool and you are walking through an unfamiliar neighborhood at night and an older guy is following you in a truck and then gets out and starts chasing you

2) a highschooler is punching you in the middle of a of a middle class neighborhood backyard


which one is scarier?

how hard is he punching?

[Dr Rick Daris]

two scenarios...

1) you are in highschool and you are walking through an unfamiliar neighborhood at night and an older guy is following you in a truck and then gets out and starts chasing you

2) a highschooler is punching you in the middle of a of a middle class neighborhood backyard


which one is scarier?

how hard is he punching?

i would say average highschooler punching. also, you are an adult male and it's in a neighborhood that you are very familiar with. it is dark, but not late and there are a bunch of houses around with people still awake in them.

[sys]

they are both scary, because the other party is a stranger.  you have no idea what he's thinking or what weapons he possesses.


the whole line of thinking where people try to minimize the fight to some sort of high school or pickup game fistfight is stupid.  for the above reason.

[Dr Rick Daris]

they are both scary, because the other party is a stranger.  you have no idea what he's thinking or what weapons he possesses.


the whole line of thinking where people try to minimize the fight to some sort of high school or pickup game fistfight is stupid.  for the above reason.

good point. i guess i'd probably try to avoid those situations if possible, because i agree that they are both less than ideal.


what if in the second scenario i add that you actively and for no reason chased the highschooler through your neighborhood and it was only when you caught up with him that he started punching you? change or heart or still equally as scary as being a kid in high school with an old dude in a truck chasing you at night?

[steve dave]

they are both scary, because the other party is a stranger.  you have no idea what he's thinking or what weapons he possesses.


the whole line of thinking where people try to minimize the fight to some sort of high school or pickup game fistfight is stupid.  for the above reason.

good point. i guess i'd probably try to avoid those situations if possible, because i agree that they are both less than ideal.


what if in the second scenario i add that you actively and for no reason chased the highschooler through your neighborhood and it was only when you caught up with him that he started punching you? change or heart or still equally as scary as being a kid in high school with an old dude in a truck chasing you at night?

makes it more scary because then you feel like a huge dumbass and have to figure out how to explain what happened