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« Reply #1225 on: July 08, 2013, 10:36:53 AM »
If Zimm didn't defend himself who knows how bad he would have gotten his ass kicked. Trayvon probably would have killed him with his bare hands

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« Reply #1226 on: July 08, 2013, 10:37:22 AM »
I don't think GZ ever had the right to defend himself with lethal force because he was never in danger of great bodily harm.

And if the jury agrees there was no reasonable fear, beyond any reasonable doubt, he'll be convicted of manslaughter. But it is a lot easier to make such calls in hindsight as a passive observer, particularly if you've graduated from the school for internet tuff guys. And just out of curiosity, what gives you any certainty at all that TM would have stopped beating GZ before the injuries got much worse?

To determine reasonable fear, you must put yourself in GZ's shoes, pinned under an aggressor, taking hits to the head. If this jury does that, then coupled with the bloody photos, I see no chance of conviction.


I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #1227 on: July 08, 2013, 10:38:58 AM »
It looks like he lost less than 2 oz of blood and his doctor said his nose wasn't even broken. If that qualifies as "great bodily harm" then the standard for self defense is just way too low.

Again, you've missed the point. You do not have to suffer great bodily harm before you can use self defense. You simply need to have a reasonable fear that great bodily harm will occur if you don't use self defense.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #1228 on: July 08, 2013, 10:39:15 AM »
what's the murder rate in the area that GZ lived in?

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« Reply #1229 on: July 08, 2013, 10:39:34 AM »
If Zimm didn't defend himself who knows how bad he would have gotten his ass kicked. Trayvon probably would have killed him with his bare hands

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« Reply #1230 on: July 08, 2013, 10:39:56 AM »
Next time I get in a fight I'm going to make sure I get knocked unconscious before I try to defend myself!!!

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« Reply #1231 on: July 08, 2013, 10:40:33 AM »
Next time I get in a fight I'm going to make sure I get knocked unconscious before I try to defend myself!!!

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« Reply #1232 on: July 08, 2013, 10:41:31 AM »
If Trayvon were alive, what would he be convicted of?

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« Reply #1233 on: July 08, 2013, 10:42:21 AM »
If Trayvon were alive, what would he be convicted of?

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« Reply #1234 on: July 08, 2013, 10:42:25 AM »
If Trayvon were alive, what would he be convicted of?

weed and maybe jaywalking?
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« Reply #1235 on: July 08, 2013, 10:42:38 AM »
If Trayvon were alive, what would he be convicted of?

Probably murder. I came to this conclusion based on my opinion

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« Reply #1236 on: July 08, 2013, 10:43:05 AM »
If Trayvon were alive, what would he be convicted of?

Probably murder. I came to this conclusion based on my opinion

omg I was making fun of you but I didn't need to  :lol:

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« Reply #1237 on: July 08, 2013, 10:43:10 AM »
Oh man :lol:
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« Reply #1238 on: July 08, 2013, 10:44:05 AM »
If Trayvon were alive, what would he be convicted of?

Probably murder. I came to this conclusion based on my opinion

omg I was making fun of you but I didn't need to  :lol:

You guys are the dumbasses in this scenario

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« Reply #1239 on: July 08, 2013, 10:44:14 AM »
:lol:

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« Reply #1240 on: July 08, 2013, 10:45:08 AM »
:lol:

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« Reply #1241 on: July 08, 2013, 10:45:50 AM »
Next time I get in a fight I'm going to make sure I get knocked unconscious before I try to defend myself!!!

What were the circumstances leading to the last fight you were in?

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« Reply #1242 on: July 08, 2013, 10:45:58 AM »
What an amazing moment we all just shared. I mean, you pop into one of these threads just to see what's going on and then BAM like a fistful of weed to the nose!
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« Reply #1243 on: July 08, 2013, 10:52:32 AM »
If Trayvon were alive, what would he be convicted of?

No idea what he'd even be charged with. Might depend upon the extent of GZ's injuries. Why does it matter?
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #1244 on: July 08, 2013, 10:53:31 AM »
If Trayvon were alive, what would he be convicted of?

No idea what he'd even be charged with. Might depend upon the extent of GZ's injuries. Why does it matter?

It's an interesting question that led to a hilarious moment.

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« Reply #1245 on: July 08, 2013, 10:58:12 AM »
Next time I get in a fight I'm going to make sure I get knocked unconscious before I try to defend myself!!!

What were the circumstances leading to the last fight you were in?

Rick Daris jumped me when I was walking home from the bars. I did call him a "creepy ass cracker" so maybe it was justified

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« Reply #1246 on: July 08, 2013, 10:59:01 AM »
so zimmerman could use his gun and kill someone because he felt his life was threatened because a sixteen year old was punching him, but trayvon couldn't use his bare fists to punch a guy that was following him for no reason at night with a gun?

because it seems like trayvon might have pretty reasonably felt that his life was being threatened as well. too bad he only had his fists to punch the guy with and not a gun to shoot him and kill him. oh well live and learn.

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« Reply #1247 on: July 08, 2013, 11:00:31 AM »
so zimmerman could use his gun and kill someone because he felt his life was threatened because a sixteen year old was punching him, but trayvon couldn't use his bare fists to punch a guy that was following him for no reason at night with a gun?

because it seems like trayvon might have pretty reasonably felt that his life was being threatened as well. too bad he only had his fists to punch the guy with and not a gun to shoot him and kill him. oh well live and learn.

I guess the moral of the story is to carry a gun at all times and when in doubt, always shoot to kill immediately.

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« Reply #1248 on: July 08, 2013, 11:05:13 AM »
If someone is stalking you, don't defend yourself.

If you stalk someone, feel free to "defend" yourself when they notice and take issue with it.

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« Reply #1249 on: July 08, 2013, 11:06:04 AM »
so zimmerman could use his gun and kill someone because he felt his life was threatened because a sixteen year old was punching him, but trayvon couldn't use his bare fists to punch a guy that was following him for no reason at night with a gun?

because it seems like trayvon might have pretty reasonably felt that his life was being threatened as well. too bad he only had his fists to punch the guy with and not a gun to shoot him and kill him. oh well live and learn.

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