George Zimmerman is a piece of crap

[michigancat]

on the only jury i ever served on, i was solely responsible for not convicting a guy of assault on a cop.  i want that on my contrarian permanent record.

that's pretty great. god bless you.

[sys]

the whole the 911 operator tried to dissuade him from action thing is beyond Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  describe to me a situation where a 911 operator is going to tell a 911 caller - go try and wrestle that guy to the ground and restrain him until the cops come.

[steve dave]

Not currently watching, but how are her "court nails"? Man, I bet she's gonna get like, totally high after this is all done.

good lord

[sys]

on the only jury i ever served on, i was solely responsible for not convicting a guy of assault on a cop.  i want that on my contrarian permanent record.

that's pretty great. god bless you.

yeah, felt great.

[steve dave]

sys, have an American flag waving in the wind behind you when you tell that story next time. amazing.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

on the only jury i ever served on, i was solely responsible for not convicting a guy of assault on a cop.  i want that on my contrarian permanent record.

that's pretty great. god bless you.

yeah, felt great.

I'd like to hear more about this story sometime.

[Kat Kid]

on the only jury i ever served on, i was solely responsible for not convicting a guy of assault on a cop.  i want that on my contrarian permanent record.

that's pretty great. god bless you.

yeah, felt great.

I'd like to hear more about this story sometime.

I'd like to hear the story now if that's cool with everyone.

[Cartierfor3]

I'd like to hear the story now if that's cool with everyone.

Cool with me Kat Kid

[michigancat]

the whole the 911 operator tried to dissuade him from action thing is beyond Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  describe to me a situation where a 911 operator is going to tell a 911 caller - go try and wrestle that guy to the ground and restrain him until the cops come.

yeah, obviously you should do the opposite of what the 911 operator tells you. Everyone knows this.

[sys]

sys, have an American flag waving in the wind behind you when you tell that story next time. amazing.

all this nonsense about how GZ was the only instigator.  oh he shouldn't have had a gun, he shouldn't have gotten out of his car, he shouldn't have called the police on a young child.

No one is saying that.  That's called a strawman

i don't think anyone has said the thing about the young child, but they have (at least implied) the first two.  people have said a lot of stupid things in this thread.  besides, i like seven.

[sys]

the whole the 911 operator tried to dissuade him from action thing is beyond Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  describe to me a situation where a 911 operator is going to tell a 911 caller - go try and wrestle that guy to the ground and restrain him until the cops come.

yeah, obviously you should do the opposite of what the 911 operator tells you. Everyone knows this.

you should realize they aren't going to tell you anything that might make their employer liable for anything and not give their advice any more weight than it warrants.

[star seed 7]

i don't think anyone has said the thing about the young child, but they have (at least implied) the first two.  people have said a lot of stupid things in this thread.  besides, i like seven.

[sys]

sys, have an American flag waving in the wind behind you when you tell that story next time. amazing.

i don't like americans, though.   

[steve dave]

sys, have an American flag waving in the wind behind you when you tell that story next time. amazing.

i don't like americans, though.   

Oh I know, but that story...wow!

[michigancat]

the whole the 911 operator tried to dissuade him from action thing is beyond Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  describe to me a situation where a 911 operator is going to tell a 911 caller - go try and wrestle that guy to the ground and restrain him until the cops come.

yeah, obviously you should do the opposite of what the 911 operator tells you. Everyone knows this.

you should realize they aren't going to tell you anything that might make their employer liable for anything and not give their advice any more weight than it warrants.

ok

[Mr Bread]

yeah, lots of folks (myself included) have said that Zimmerman will probably be found not guilty you dopes.

reasonable doubt is pretty nearly an impossible standard.

 

[sys]

I'd like to hear the story now if that's cool with everyone.

not that great of a story.  some guy got pulled over on a traffic stop and he was wanted for something else.  the police officer tried to cuff him or something and he shook it off and ran away.  the police officer suffered a torn acl in the process (not hit or anything, just in the pivoting of legs or whatever).  charged with assault, iirc.  maybe battery, who knows.  everyone else was, book him danno and i was, wait, the state presented convincing evidence that the suspect resisted arrest, and that in the process, the officer was harmed, but they didn't even try to prove that the suspect's actions were malicious or displayed negligent disregard for the officer's well being.  it's reasonable to assume he just wanted to escape and had no idea that trying to escape might result in injury to the officer.

just like 12 angry men except no one tried to convince anyone of anything, we just all decided eff it, hung jury, let's go home.  also, i'm pretty sure the defendant was convicted of other things in other trials.

[steve dave]

U S A! U S A! U S A!

[Rage Against the McKee]

Most great American stories end with "eff it, hung jury, let's go home." At least they should.

[DQ12]

that was a sysational story!

[steve dave]

also, I can't believe you were the only one. That's sad.

[AppleJack]

[Mr Bread]

I'd like to hear the story now if that's cool with everyone.

not that great of a story.  some guy got pulled over on a traffic stop and he was wanted for something else.  the police officer tried to cuff him or something and he shook it off and ran away.  the police officer suffered a torn acl in the process (not hit or anything, just in the pivoting of legs or whatever).  charged with assault, iirc.  maybe battery, who knows.  everyone else was, book him danno and i was, wait, the state presented convincing evidence that the suspect resisted arrest, and that in the process, the officer was harmed, but they didn't even try to prove that the suspect's actions were malicious or displayed negligent disregard for the officer's well being.  it's reasonable to assume he just wanted to escape and had no idea that trying to escape might result in injury to the officer.

just like 12 angry men except no one tried to convince anyone of anything, we just all decided eff it, hung jury, let's go home.  also, i'm pretty sure the defendant was convicted of other things in other trials.

In Illinois that is strict liability as to felony resisting.  Meaning if you resist/flee and the officer is injured in the apprehension/pursuit it enhances it from a misdemeanor to a felony.  So prove BaRD intent to resist and then that injury was proximately caused.  No requirement that you prove any intent to injure.  Sounds like a dumbass charging decision on the part of the prosecution. 

[sys]

also, I can't believe you were the only one. That's sad.

there was one other smart person on the jury.  i felt pretty betrayed when he went with the majority.  i also felt manipulated when i noticed the defendant's suit covered up forearm tats that extended down and out onto his wrists.  the state should have entered half-nekkid pics as evidence.

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

also, I can't believe you were the only one. That's sad.

there was one other smart person on the jury.  i felt pretty betrayed when he went with the majority.  i also felt manipulated when i noticed the defendant's suit covered up forearm tats that extended down and out onto his wrists.  the state should have entered half-nekkid pics as evidence.

Sounds like the other 10 jurors were dumbasses from this thread