Author Topic: Internet/Wireless/Switch question (Read 2241 times)

Kat Kid · « **on:** March 19, 2012, 04:03:08 PM »

Here is the current setup:

cable---------router------------netgear switch--- 1)router connection
2)open
3)xbox 360
4)open
5)airport express

Problems:
The reason I wanted this setup was so I could have wireless and have an ethernet connection to my xbox 360 (it is an earlier xbox with no wireless internet). Well, everytime I try to get the xbox live fired up it gives me an error message.

Things I've tried:

While leaving the xbox on: I unplug/plug the AC/power to the router. No go. I do that then unplug/plug the AC/power to the switch. No.

I restart the xbox and the connection on the switch dies, then does not get re-established.

The netgear box claims it is "smart" so there is no particular series that needs to work for the LAN.

Successes:

I think when I re-set the airport and reconfigured the network, the wireless went down, but the xbox 360 worked. WTF? But I can already get the xbox live to work by just plugging in the ethernet cable and short circuiting the rest of this nonsense.

wut do?

Saulbadguy · « **Reply #1 on:** March 19, 2012, 04:53:46 PM »

Why do you have a switch?

Saulbadguy · « **Reply #2 on:** March 19, 2012, 04:59:55 PM »

Plug the router in to the modem, then plug in the switch.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #3 on:** March 19, 2012, 05:42:28 PM »

The airport only has one ethernet plug.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #4 on:** March 19, 2012, 05:50:03 PM »

new thing (not really success):

If I do the restart and then unplug/replug the ethernet cable I can get the xbox live working, but then the wireless craps out.

Saulbadguy · « **Reply #5 on:** March 19, 2012, 05:51:43 PM »

Router, then switch. Plug everything in to the switch. Internet providers only give one IP address at a time, that's why one thing will crap out and another thing will start working.

Saulbadguy · « **Reply #6 on:** March 19, 2012, 05:52:38 PM »

What kind of router do you have?

Kat Kid · « **Reply #7 on:** March 19, 2012, 05:54:56 PM »

Quote from: Saulbadguy on March 19, 2012, 05:51:43 PM

Router, then switch. Plug everything in to the switch. Internet providers only give one IP address at a time, that's why one thing will crap out and another thing will start working.

redrawn diagram:

cable in wall--------------MODEM (not router lol!)----------everything else the same

Kat Kid · « **Reply #8 on:** March 19, 2012, 05:56:59 PM »

the wireless router is a mac airport plug in thing:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015YJOK2/ref=asc_df_B0015YJOK21943916?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=B0015YJOK2&hvpos=none&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1633271438336268385&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=

Saulbadguy · « **Reply #9 on:** March 19, 2012, 05:59:38 PM »

Well. That's just not going to work, I think.

TBL · « **Reply #10 on:** March 19, 2012, 06:03:17 PM »

That's what you get for buying Apple.

ChiComCat · « **Reply #11 on:** March 19, 2012, 06:04:15 PM »

I had to go and do some complicated internet saul-type-thing (I think it wsa DNS related) to configure my xbox but I think I was messing with wireless router and not actual modem.

Trim · « **Reply #12 on:** March 19, 2012, 06:06:23 PM »

Have Saul fix it before the banquet.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #13 on:** March 19, 2012, 06:06:44 PM »

Quote from: Saulbadguy on March 19, 2012, 05:59:38 PM

Well. That's just not going to work, I think.

Ok. So I have to return the thing. So how can I make it work?

Saulbadguy · « **Reply #14 on:** March 19, 2012, 06:07:00 PM »

Sell your airport and but a 5 port wireless N router, Linksys.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #15 on:** March 19, 2012, 06:10:17 PM »

Quote from: Saulbadguy on March 19, 2012, 06:07:00 PM

Sell your airport and but a 5 port wireless N router, Linksys.

link it.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #16 on:** March 19, 2012, 06:14:02 PM »

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124413

This thing ok?

star seed 7 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 19, 2012, 06:34:51 PM »

yeah that works.

on a related note, i have one of the old xbox's too, and just hooked it up to the internet like a month ago for the first time (it's an 08 model i think, yeah i'm behind the times), and of course it updated the OS (or whatever) right off and now it just craps out every five minutes. was working fine before that.

Saulbadguy · « **Reply #18 on:** March 19, 2012, 06:45:47 PM »

Kat Kid · « **Reply #19 on:** March 19, 2012, 09:27:41 PM »

THANKS SAUL!

WildCatzPhreak · « **Reply #20 on:** March 20, 2012, 12:29:07 PM »

fyi, 360 wireless receivers are on sale at gamestop for $40 new right now.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #21 on:** March 20, 2012, 01:03:17 PM »

Quote from: WildCatzPhreak on March 20, 2012, 12:29:07 PM

fyi, 360 wireless receivers are on sale at gamestop for $40 new right now.

really? I mean I though those were for bluetooth wireless headsets, not the wireless internets.

dmartin · « **Reply #22 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:10:48 PM »

Is this a Cox Modem? I had this same issue once. What ended up fixing it was setting up everything on the network like I wanted it (like you have now) and then rebooting the modem. For some reason, the modem had a memory, and if I changed anything in the Hardware behind the modem (router, switch, etc (not pc's or xbox)) would work for a minute and then kick things off.

ChiComCat · « **Reply #23 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:13:30 PM »

sounds to me like your internetting tubes are clogged

Saulbadguy · « **Reply #24 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:18:22 PM »

Quote from: dmartin on March 20, 2012, 03:10:48 PM

Is this a Cox Modem? I had this same issue once. What ended up fixing it was setting up everything on the network like I wanted it (like you have now) and then rebooting the modem. For some reason, the modem had a memory, and if I changed anything in the Hardware behind the modem (router, switch, etc (not pc's or xbox)) would work for a minute and then kick things off.

The modem has a type of port security built in to it, where it will remember the MAC Address of the device connected to it, and only lease an IP out to that device. Restarting the modem will clear that knowledge of the device and lease an IP to the device that is currently connected to it.

The problem with a switch is that it can't translate the public IP address to a private one. Since Cox (and other ISP) will only allow one IP address per modem, you have to have a router that can perform network address translation (NAT).