Guards

[kso_FAN]

I thought it would come down to guards and it did. Our weren't bad, Syracuse's were great. Scoop Jardine played like a SR, though I'm proud of how Angel, Rod, and Will played.

[ednksu]

I thought it would come down to guards and it did. Our weren't bad, Syracuse's were great. Scoop Jardine played like a SR, though I'm proud of how Angel, Rod, and Will played.

exactly.

Especially Will.  I thought we was going to be our biggest liability because of Cuse's size and speed, and he did pretty well.

[sonofdaxjones]

It would be super sweet if we could find another Rodney and maybe a 4 inch taller version of Angel. 

But Jo and Gip's complete inability to convert the myriad of open shots they had was a killer.

[sys]

mostly agree.  people can talk all they want (justifiably) about gipson's problem keying the zone offense, but the more important issue was kstate's inability to contain su's guards defensively.

and i agree it was more them playing great than kstate defending poorly.

[kso_FAN]

mostly agree.  people can talk all they want (justifiably) about gipson's problem keying the zone offense, but the more important issue was kstate's inability to contain su's guards defensively.

and i agree it was more them playing great than kstate defending poorly.

Yeah, we gave up some shots, but they made a lot of guarded/hard shots. I really am having a hard time being upset.

[Pendergast]

mostly agree.  people can talk all they want (justifiably) about gipson's problem keying the zone offense, but the more important issue was kstate's inability to contain su's guards defensively.

and i agree it was more them playing great than kstate defending poorly.

How can you disregard the countless quick breaks started by Gip's butter fingers?  That had to account for a significant amount of points.

I didn't see poor defense by the guards at all.  Terrible defense by Gip, and JO after his foul trouble, but not the guards.

[DQ12]

Winning with 59 points would have been pretty hard, imo.

[SPE_khat]

Watching our guards try to guard their clearly superior , longer, more athletic guards:
We won't be able to compete with the top dogs until we get these types of guards

[kso_FAN]

mostly agree.  people can talk all they want (justifiably) about gipson's problem keying the zone offense, but the more important issue was kstate's inability to contain su's guards defensively.

and i agree it was more them playing great than kstate defending poorly.

How can you disregard the countless quick breaks started by Gip's butter fingers?  That had to account for a significant amount of points.

I didn't see poor defense by the guards at all.  Terrible defense by Gip, and JO after his could trouble, but not the guards.

Of course he struggled; impossible situation for him. He played fine and will be fine.

[Pendergast]

mostly agree.  people can talk all they want (justifiably) about gipson's problem keying the zone offense, but the more important issue was kstate's inability to contain su's guards defensively.

and i agree it was more them playing great than kstate defending poorly.

How can you disregard the countless quick breaks started by Gip's butter fingers?  That had to account for a significant amount of points.

I didn't see poor defense by the guards at all.  Terrible defense by Gip, and JO after his could trouble, but not the guards.

Of course he struggled; impossible situation for him. He played fine and will be fine.

Come on, I know you're level headed and I'm certainly not.  But he was terrible. If you can't admit that then my respect for you will definitely change for the worse.

[CHONGS]

Gip will be fine.

[CHONGS]

mostly agree.  people can talk all they want (justifiably) about gipson's problem keying the zone offense, but the more important issue was kstate's inability to contain su's guards defensively.

and i agree it was more them playing great than kstate defending poorly.

How can you disregard the countless quick breaks started by Gip's butter fingers?  That had to account for a significant amount of points.

I didn't see poor defense by the guards at all.  Terrible defense by Gip, and JO after his could trouble, but not the guards.

Of course he struggled; impossible situation for him. He played fine and will be fine.

Come on, I know you're level headed and I'm certainly not.  But he was terrible. If you can't admit that then my respect for you will definitely change for the worse.

I certainly hope _FAN doesn't give a crap about if you respect him.

[Pendergast]

I certainly hope _FAN doesn't give a crap about if you respect him.

GMAFB I didn't say he should care, and it was not implied.  But congrats on the predictable response.

[kso_FAN]

mostly agree.  people can talk all they want (justifiably) about gipson's problem keying the zone offense, but the more important issue was kstate's inability to contain su's guards defensively.

and i agree it was more them playing great than kstate defending poorly.

How can you disregard the countless quick breaks started by Gip's butter fingers?  That had to account for a significant amount of points.

I didn't see poor defense by the guards at all.  Terrible defense by Gip, and JO after his could trouble, but not the guards.

Of course he struggled; impossible situation for him. He played fine and will be fine.

Come on, I know you're level headed and I'm certainly not.  But he was terrible. If you can't admit that then my respect for you will definitely change for the worse.

I certainly hope _FAN doesn't give a crap about if you respect him.

I don't.

He's got to hit the shots he missed and catch the ball, but he boarded and defended well. I'm really not that disappointed considering what he was thrown into, and anyone who is that upset is being unreasonable IMHO.

[kim carnes]

I thought it would come down to guards and it did. Our weren't bad, Syracuse's were great. Scoop Jardine played like a SR, though I'm proud of how Angel, Rod, and Will played.

yep, they were awesome       

[Asteriskhead]

mostly agree.  people can talk all they want (justifiably) about gipson's problem keying the zone offense, but the more important issue was kstate's inability to contain su's guards defensively.

and i agree it was more them playing great than kstate defending poorly.

How can you disregard the countless quick breaks started by Gip's butter fingers?  That had to account for a significant amount of points.

I didn't see poor defense by the guards at all.  Terrible defense by Gip, and JO after his could trouble, but not the guards.

Of course he struggled; impossible situation for him. He played fine and will be fine.

Come on, I know you're level headed and I'm certainly not.  But he was terrible. If you can't admit that then my respect for you will definitely change for the worse.

I certainly hope _FAN doesn't give a crap about if you respect him.

I don't.

He's got to hit the shots he missed and catch the ball, but he boarded and defended well. I'm really not that disappointed considering what he was thrown into, and anyone who is that upset is being unreasonable IMHO.

+ mothafuckin' 1

[Pendergast]

mostly agree.  people can talk all they want (justifiably) about gipson's problem keying the zone offense, but the more important issue was kstate's inability to contain su's guards defensively.

and i agree it was more them playing great than kstate defending poorly.

How can you disregard the countless quick breaks started by Gip's butter fingers?  That had to account for a significant amount of points.

I didn't see poor defense by the guards at all.  Terrible defense by Gip, and JO after his could trouble, but not the guards.

Of course he struggled; impossible situation for him. He played fine and will be fine.

Come on, I know you're level headed and I'm certainly not.  But he was terrible. If you can't admit that then my respect for you will definitely change for the worse.

I certainly hope _FAN doesn't give a crap about if you respect him.

I don't.

He's got to hit the shots he missed and catch the ball, but he boarded and defended well. I'm really not that disappointed considering what he was thrown into, and anyone who is that upset is being unreasonable IMHO.

The use of the word upset is very telling.  He did not play well.  Drawing a couple fouls early and the occasional rebound against a poor rebounding team is not a saving grace.

[joda]

mostly agree.  people can talk all they want (justifiably) about gipson's problem keying the zone offense, but the more important issue was kstate's inability to contain su's guards defensively.

and i agree it was more them playing great than kstate defending poorly.

How can you disregard the countless quick breaks started by Gip's butter fingers?  That had to account for a significant amount of points.

I didn't see poor defense by the guards at all.  Terrible defense by Gip, and JO after his could trouble, but not the guards.

Of course he struggled; impossible situation for him. He played fine and will be fine.

Come on, I know you're level headed and I'm certainly not.  But he was terrible. If you can't admit that then my respect for you will definitely change for the worse.

I certainly hope _FAN doesn't give a crap about if you respect him.

I don't.

He's got to hit the shots he missed and catch the ball, but he boarded and defended well. I'm really not that disappointed considering what he was thrown into, and anyone who is that upset is being unreasonable IMHO.

The use of the word upset is very telling.  He did not play well.  Drawing a couple fouls early and the occasional rebound against a poor rebounding team is not a saving grace.

Gip is a freshman who is a boards and d guy, if you expected him to play much better in this game you're a rough ridin' idiot. He should have made a couple shots he didn't and caught a couple passes he dropped, but even a perfect game from Gip and we still lose this game.

[Pendergast]

Gip is a freshman who is a boards and d guy, if you expected him to play much better in this game you're a rough ridin' idiot. He should have made a couple shots he didn't and caught a couple passes he dropped, but even a perfect game from Gip and we still lose this game.

Oh so he's not supposed to score bunnies? Ok, noted.  And it was more than a couple, he missed 5 layups and 1 dunk.  He also dropped 5+ passes that hit his hands.  It has nothing to do with winning, or emotion.  He simply played a terrible game.

[joda]

Gip is a freshman who is a boards and d guy, if you expected him to play much better in this game you're a rough ridin' idiot. He should have made a couple shots he didn't and caught a couple passes he dropped, but even a perfect game from Gip and we still lose this game.

Oh so he's not supposed to score bunnies? Ok, noted.  And it was more than a couple, he missed 5 layups and 1 dunk.  He also dropped 5+ passes that hit his hands.  It has nothing to do with winning, or emotion.  He simply played a terrible game.

He played a terrible game offensively, but again, if you expected much more from a freshman who is not good offensively against Syracuse in the NCAA tournament you are a rough ridin' idiot.

[Powercat Posse]

Gip struggled in the 2nd half.   His first half was fine.   

first half our guards played about as well as  we can ask.   Tough matchup for us when Waiters and Joseph both of the floor.   

[kso_FAN]

Gip is a freshman who is a boards and d guy, if you expected him to play much better in this game you're a rough ridin' idiot. He should have made a couple shots he didn't and caught a couple passes he dropped, but even a perfect game from Gip and we still lose this game.

Oh so he's not supposed to score bunnies? Ok, noted.  And it was more than a couple, he missed 5 layups and 1 dunk.  He also dropped 5+ passes that hit his hands.  It has nothing to do with winning, or emotion.  He simply played a terrible game.

He played a terrible game offensively, but again, if you expected much more from a freshman who is not good offensively against Syracuse in the NCAA tournament you are a rough ridin' idiot.

He struggled on offense and was not efficient; I already said that he struggled with both shooting and catching. Still, he finished with 8 and 8 while playing MORE MINUTES than he's played IN ANY GAME all year. And Syracuse is a long, quick team, really a bad match-up at this point in Gips' career.

I'm sorry, I'm not going to throw him under the bus for how he played today, it was going to take an exceptional game today for him and he couldn't do it. I'm sorry I'm not shocked (or upset) by this.

He is going to be a fine player at K-State before he's done.

[Pendergast]

He played a terrible game offensively, but again, if you expected much more from a freshman who is not good offensively against Syracuse in the NCAA tournament you are a rough ridin' idiot.

Yes, I expect him to make layups.  Where do I self report as a rough ridin' idiot?  Expecting him to play better, is not expecting him to have a world beating game.  There's more to life than black and white.

[puniraptor]

Dirty Cuse raper maliciously breaking Rod's ankle really dampened his output.

[Skipper44]

there were almost zero uncontested lay ups or bunnies out there today