The Labradors are back (ISU adv stats part 2)

[kso_FAN]

1st   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   28   0.95   44.4%   24.7%   41.2%   22.2%
Opp   28   1.30   58.3%   14.1%   43.7%   13.3%

2nd   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   33   1.02   48.2%   12.0%   15.8%   42.9%
Opp   33   0.84   42.3%   18.1%   20.0%   38.5%

Total   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   62   0.98   46.4%   17.7%   27.8%   32.7%
Opp   62   1.05   50.9%   16.1%   30.6%   25.0%

Shooting was bad enough, but just as frustrating to be handled on the boards.

[kstater]

[Powercat Posse]

2nd chance points =  Isu 14  Ksu 6


After  Christophersen did his best Jordan Crawford impersonation with the 35 foot shot === 
The next 8:30..............  Isu goes 0-12FG with 3 turnovers.  We go on 20-3 run.


But then back to back to back 3s in the next 3 minutes.   
Then a little later,  Christopher drove on Sprads and hit 10 foot jumpers in the lane on back to back possessions

[Powercat Posse]

Last 35 possessions  we were pretty good on defense (2nd half plus last 2 poss in 1st hf) =
0.80 ppp
9-28 FGA
4-16 3pt
18.2 OR% allowed


Same old crap though with our droughts --
2 pts in 5:45 in the 1st half  (tie game to a 12 pt Clone lead)
2 pts in 6:03 in the 2nd half ( 2 point lead to 7 pt deficit)

[sys]

Shooting was bad enough, but just as frustrating to be handled on the boards.

yeah, isu deserved the win.

[catzacker]

Shooting was bad enough, but just as frustrating to be handled on the boards.

yeah, isu deserved the win.

No. christopherson deserved the win.  Will deserved the loss.

[kso_FAN]

Shooting was bad enough, but just as frustrating to be handled on the boards.

yeah, isu deserved the win.

No. christopherson deserved the win.  Will deserved the loss.

Yeah, and Christopherson is everything we want Will to be, I'd even take 2/3 of what he's become.

[wabash909]

Shooting was bad enough, but just as frustrating to be handled on the boards.

yeah, isu deserved the win.

No. christopherson deserved the win.  Will deserved the loss.

Yeah, and Christopherson is everything we want Will to be, I'd even take 2/3 of what he's become.

I'd take Will being Conner Teahan at this point.

[sys]

Yeah, and Christopherson is everything we want Will to be, I'd even take 2/3 of what he's become.

christo is a really good player.  if he could pass, and if he wasn't a defensive liability, he'd be all-conference caliber.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

How about putting somebody with length on the ginger scarecrow.  Like every third grader and up, he's got the jump stop figured out.
 

[EMAWzified]

How about hedging on him when he's screened at the top of the key, especially when Angel goes underneath the screen.

[Powercat Posse]

Christo can go right and left with the dribble.............. but like almost all pure shooters who are not drivers............. they almost always want to go right.       Its harder to block the shot if he drives right and pulls up for a short jumper, AND if they drive and try and leave their feet to dish.........they almost are always going to their right (or strong hand).    Spradling consistently  let him drive to his right early in this game and got beat off of the dribble.

Every Ksu starter did something to contribute today to allow us to win............. except Will
1.  Angel 4-7Fg   8/1   asst - TO ratio
2.  JO  7-12Fg  12 reb 7 blks
3.  Gruds   13pts 11 reb,  0 TOs,  good D when guarding Royce
4.  Jamar.   Guarded Royce most of game.  held him to 9 pts on 3-7Fg

5.  Sprads 2-9Fg,  O rebounds, 2/2 asst TO ratio,  laughable defense,

[MakeItRain]

How about hedging on him when he's screened at the top of the key, especially when Angel goes underneath the screen.

Don't rough ridin' blame that on Angel, all guards went under the screen.  They set those screens high enough where you had to go under.  He hit two 3s because his defender went under and one of those was the 26 footer he hit.  Going under was absolutely the play with how he was penetrating and how high they set the screens.  Also we did hedge the screens but he is quick enough to get by the hedge after we also bumped the screener.

[catzacker]

the screen was about 2 ft off the 3pt line.  it was absurdly stupid for angel to go under or for JO to not hedge that.  I know JO tried to bump the screener, but regardless, that was absolutely a terrible defensive effort by both JO and angel. that specific play didn't lose the game, but it was just one of many that did.

[sonofdaxjones]

"Coach put some plays in specifically for this game that we thought could take advantage of the way they chase screens," Christopherson said.

[MakeItRain]

the screen was about 2 ft off the 3pt line.  it was absurdly stupid for angel to go under or for JO to not hedge that.  I know JO tried to bump the screener, but regardless, that was absolutely a terrible defensive effort by both JO and angel. that specific play didn't lose the game, but it was just one of many that did.

So what you're saying is that Angel should have disregarded the game plan and JO should have disregarded everything he was taught in the three years he's been here?  Got it.

[kso_FAN]

"The screen was too deep on the floor," he said. "Our ball-screen defense is called by the guy defending the screener, not the ball and Jordan (Henriquez) made a call and Angel did what Jordan asked him to do. Give Christopherson credit, but that's not what cost us the game."

[catzacker]

the screen was about 2 ft off the 3pt line.  it was absurdly stupid for angel to go under or for JO to not hedge that.  I know JO tried to bump the screener, but regardless, that was absolutely a terrible defensive effort by both JO and angel. that specific play didn't lose the game, but it was just one of many that did.

So what you're saying is that Angel should have disregarded the game plan and JO should have disregarded everything he was taught in the three years he's been here?  Got it.

I'm saying one or both of them mumped that play up.  and judging Lebron Christopherson's comments, they knew how we'd guard those screens and we either didn't adjust (on frank) or didn't execute (on angel and JO).  choose.

[MakeItRain]

the screen was about 2 ft off the 3pt line.  it was absurdly stupid for angel to go under or for JO to not hedge that.  I know JO tried to bump the screener, but regardless, that was absolutely a terrible defensive effort by both JO and angel. that specific play didn't lose the game, but it was just one of many that did.

So what you're saying is that Angel should have disregarded the game plan and JO should have disregarded everything he was taught in the three years he's been here?  Got it.

I'm saying one or both of them mumped that play up.  and judging Lebron Christopherson's comments, they knew how we'd guard those screens and we either didn't adjust (on frank) or didn't execute (on angel and JO).  choose.

There are only two ways to guard high ball screens Zack, it isn't football everyone knows what everyone else does.  If you want to fault someone, I suppose you could fault JO for not bumping that screen harder.  I'm going to lean more towards Christopherson for making a play readily available for most guards who receive a high ball screen.

[catzacker]

actually there are more.  you can:

(1) go over the screen
(2) go over the screen, quick hedge from the screener's defender
(3) go under the screen, bumping the screener
(4) go under the screen, quick hedge from the screener's defender
(5) switch
(6) trap

there are a variety of ways to attack high ball screens.  JO and angel f*cked that one up.  Again, that one play didn't lose the game, it was just one of many plays that did.

[MakeItRain]

actually there are more.  you can:

(1) go over the screen
(2) go over the screen, quick hedge from the screener's defender
(3) go under the screen, bumping the screener
(4) go under the screen, quick hedge from the screener's defender
(5) switch
(6) trap

there are a variety of ways to attack high ball screens.  JO and angel f*cked that one up.  Again, that one play didn't lose the game, it was just one of many plays that did.

1 and 2 are the same thing as are 3 and 4.  5 and 6 are absurd notions for an average/above average high major guard.  It isn't CYO basketball, there is a reason why you don't see teams trap from high ball screens.  The only teams I see switch screens are teams like Mizzou who play four guards.  If they switch that you have JO guarding Christopherson.  You whined when JO guarded Jones against WVU so now you're proposing this?  LOL.  When you're red assed about literally everything the potential of double talk is quite high.  You run out of ways to rationalize being irrational.

[sonofdaxjones]

It's pretty simple, they were just better . . . again, and they had a better game plan and the Mayor out coached Frank .  .  . again.

Simple game.

I can only imagine the Mitchisms:  The Mayor forecloses on the Octagon of Doom. 

[MakeItRain]

I really hope people don't lump you with wabash and zacker.  See I think they actually know basketball, I just think their view is clouded by their strange love of Kansas State Basketball.  You don't know dick about basketball, you just spew "clever" puns about losing.  Have you ever had a post breaking down what you saw and offered an alternative to what you think should have happened?

[sonofdaxjones]

How complicated was yesterday's game MIR?   One guy hit everything they threw up, our perimeter D sucked, so their shooter was very comfortable, when we pressured out top, they back doored us . . . it's a simple formula that when teams get it going against K-State, K-State has a difficult time winning.   

I will now let you go back to your regularly scheduled "I know more about the game than you" bull$hit.

[MakeItRain]

How complicated was yesterday's game MIR?   One guy hit everything they threw up, our perimeter D sucked, so their shooter was very comfortable, when we pressured out top, they back doored us . . . it's a simple formula that when teams get it going against K-State, K-State has a difficult time winning.   

I will now let you go back to your regularly scheduled "I know more about the game than you" bull$hit.

It isn't bullshit, I do there isn't much doubt about that.  You shouldn't use me as your measuring stick though.

Our perimeter defense was fine, Scott Christopherson wasn't the only guard they had, and he should get some credit for going 5-5 from the three point line.  As much as some of you try, that can't be explained away by bad defense.  Also back doors?  WTF?  Of it did happen it couldn't have been more than once.  Their offense isn't set up to do much of that.  I can't remember one successful backdoor cut that resulted in a basket for the cutter.