Always close (Baylor adv stats part 2)

[kso_FAN]

1st   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   33   0.98   57.4%   27.6%   30.8%   11.1%
Opp   33   0.86   37.9%   33.7%   50.0%   20.7%

2nd   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   29   0.86   42.9%   20.6%   31.3%   10.7%
Opp   29   0.96   47.8%   24.0%   31.3%   34.8%

Total   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   62   0.92   50.0%   24.1%   31.0%   10.9%
Opp   62   0.90   42.3%   28.9%   41.2%   26.9%

Sometimes you have to win unconventionally for the team you have, and this game was certainly that.

Out o-boarded by 10%. FTR of only 11% and BU was 16% better. But the 40 minutes of distress defense worked as K-State forced TOs and outshot the Bears. Neither team played a half of basketball at over 1.0 points per possession and a pace of only 62 possessions, great job of forcing Baylor into a grinder.

A much needed win for EMAW.

[kso_FAN]

7 of our last 9 opponents have been held to .95 points per possession or less.

[kougar24]

when was the last time we had an acceptable FTR?

[Powercat Posse]

We were bad early.  First 14 minutes ----  
22 poss and 9 TOs and only 11 pts

Finished the half =
11 poss  9FG (3 3pt)  21 points  0 TOs


So in the last 26 minutes ..............
we had a 1.15 PPP (46 pts on 40 poss)
and had only 5 TOs in 39 poss (til Angel traveled on our last poss)


And on Defense =
Baylor's last 43 poss =
0.88 PPP (38 pts)
12-35 FG
13 TOs
Love it  

[michigancat]

WILL TAKE

[kso_FAN]

when was the last time we had an acceptable FTR?

80% vs Tech. This was the first Big 12 game we've won with a FTR lower than 35%. It was also the lowest FTR of any game in the Frank Martin era.

[sys]

great defense, 3s, horrible rebounding and ar-t is this team's winning formula.

[gatoveintisiete]

Stattards need to come up with a way to quantify STOPPING THE DAMN BALL.  We kept Pierre in check and gave ourselves a chance in the end.  Its really not that hard to understand.

[kso_FAN]

Stattards need to come up with a way to quantify STOPPING THE DAMN BALL.  We kept Pierre in check and gave ourselves a chance in the end.  Its really not that hard to understand.

Points per possession is the best measure in basketball. If you don't stop the ball this number will probably be bad. This isn't hard.

[gatoveintisiete]

Stattards need to come up with a way to quantify STOPPING THE DAMN BALL.  We kept Pierre in check and gave ourselves a chance in the end.  Its really not that hard to understand.

Points per possession is the best measure in basketball. If you don't stop the ball this number will probably be bad. This isn't hard.

Why don't you just wait till the game is over and look at the scoreboard, alot of leagues settle it that way.

[michigancat]

Stattards need to come up with a way to quantify STOPPING THE DAMN BALL.  We kept Pierre in check and gave ourselves a chance in the end.  Its really not that hard to understand.

Points per possession is the best measure in basketball. If you don't stop the ball this number will probably be bad. This isn't hard.

Why don't you just wait till the game is over and look at the scoreboard, alot of leagues settle it that way.

LOL, you're approaching Kim Carnes/KSU176/bigwillie20 levels in the horrible poster category.

[420seriouscat69]

I tweeted this earlier. But rewatching the game the turning point was Angel missing, tied it up with a big, oop'd to JO & 1, and fouled out Jones all on one trip. #Priceless

[kstater]

when was the last time we had an acceptable FTR?

80% vs Tech. This was the first Big 12 game we've won with a FTR lower than 35%. It was also the lowest FTR of any game in the Frank Martin era.

I assume a lot of Frank's Baylor games are near the bottom of that list?  

[michigancat]

one thing that was interesting was that I think this was the tightest frank has ever been with his bench. Only gip got double digit minutes off the bench, and all the starters but JO played 35+.

[catzacker]

one thing that was interesting was that I think this was the tightest frank has ever been with his bench. Only gip got double digit minutes off the bench, and all the starters but JO played 35+.

tay 

[kso_FAN]

Stattards need to come up with a way to quantify STOPPING THE DAMN BALL.  We kept Pierre in check and gave ourselves a chance in the end.  Its really not that hard to understand.

Points per possession is the best measure in basketball. If you don't stop the ball this number will probably be bad. This isn't hard.

Why don't you just wait till the game is over and look at the scoreboard, alot of leagues settle it that way.

One of the major purposes of BBSing about the games is discussion with others that share your fanaticism about your team. Talking about strengths and weaknesses and then defending or extrapolating on those points with rational discussion makes it better. Being able to discuss with valid advanced statistical metrics is one of the things I and many other posters here like as well. It doesn't sound much fun to come on and say "yeah, the scoreboard says we won." if you don't care to join don't respond with meaningless comments or pick another message board, again this isn't hard.

[420seriouscat69]

_fan against a long team like Baylor doesn't that hurt tays style of play? Angel is an exception. He's more versatile. But Tay at the 2 with his size doesn't make sense vs baylor.

[sys]

one thing that was interesting was that I think this was the tightest frank has ever been with his bench. Only gip got double digit minutes off the bench, and all the starters but JO played 35+.

there are so many injuries that part of that may not be by choice.  but certainly, southie, irving and diaz played less than normal.  in chat there were comments about sick players, was anyone reported as sick in the media?

[michigancat]

one thing that was interesting was that I think this was the tightest frank has ever been with his bench. Only gip got double digit minutes off the bench, and all the starters but JO played 35+.

there are so many injuries that part of that may not be by choice.  but certainly, southie, irving and diaz played less than normal.  in chat there were comments about sick players, was anyone reported as sick in the media?

who is hurt? I know Jones.

[sys]

jones, williams, watson.  down to 10 to choose from.


mcgruder too, though he still plays.

[catzacker]

i don't understand the lack of minutes for tay considering Will's absolute dogshit play during conference.  

[theswo]

i don't understand the lack of minutes for tay considering Will's absolute dogshit play during conference.  

Injury

[kso_FAN]

i don't understand the lack of minutes for tay considering Will's absolute dogshit play during conference.  

Will cant hit a shot, but Frank still loves him.

[JKEYS]

i don't understand the lack of minutes for tay considering Will's absolute dogshit play during conference.  

Injury

Am guessing Diaz was either injured or taking the first step towards being full on Frank'd (?)

[theswo]

i don't understand the lack of minutes for tay considering Will's absolute dogshit play during conference.  

Injury

Am guessing Diaz was either injured or taking the first step towards being full on Frank'd (?)

He played an average of 20+ minutes for 3 games before the KU game. Just because a freshmen doesn't play many minutes in games against top 10 opponents doesn't mean he's on his way out the door. Don't be so volatile.