here we go again@%$&#

[wabash909]

outscored 48-22 in the final 19:30.

un-rough ridin'-believable. the thing that really pisses me off is that i completely expected it to happen.

And so did the team.  That is this year's problem.  We are complete pussies mentally.

This is what happens when you have a team comprised of a bunch of role players and no leaders willing or able to put their team on their back when the game is on the line.

[MakeItRain]

I'm still waiting for one of the basketball savants on here to tell us what second half adjustments that Frank could have made.

[Kat Kid]

I'm still waiting for one of the basketball savants on here to tell us what second half adjustments that Frank could have made.

yell at the refs more.  I think getting a T instead of that timeout during their first run might've done it.

[econocat]

I'm still waiting for one of the basketball savants on here to tell us what second half adjustments that Frank could have made.

“We are who we are,’’ Martin said. “We’re not going to reinvent ourselves in the next 24 hours   

[MakeItRain]

I'm still waiting for one of the basketball savants on here to tell us what second half adjustments that Frank could have made.

“We are who we are,’’ Martin said. “We’re not going to reinvent ourselves in the next 24 hours   

Not sure you understand Frank's statement or my post you quoted.

[felix rex]

Frank is missing the chunk of the brain that allows him to make 2nd half adjustments. He will tell you it's the players fault.

Was going to post something very similar. 

Of course you were.  It's not football dumbasses.  What adjustment do you make to stop your players from turning the ball over and to make shots?

Are you upset or disappointed by now? Seems like the problem is much larger (or at least fundamentally different than an "X/O" solution. So are you equally upset at the state of the program and blaming recruiting, or not upset and just chalking it up long term to the cyclical down years emerging programs almost inevitably face?

[SkinnyBenny]

We're upset because no team should blow a zillion double-digit leads. No matter how much you suck.  Nobody should do that crap EVERY. rough ridin'. TIME.

[MakeItRain]

Frank is missing the chunk of the brain that allows him to make 2nd half adjustments. He will tell you it's the players fault.

Was going to post something very similar. 

Of course you were.  It's not football dumbasses.  What adjustment do you make to stop your players from turning the ball over and to make shots?

Are you upset or disappointed by now? Seems like the problem is much larger (or at least fundamentally different than an "X/O" solution. So are you equally upset at the state of the program and blaming recruiting, or not upset and just chalking it up long term to the cyclical down years emerging programs almost inevitably face?

All three posts quoted by you are referencing 2nd half adjustments, none of the questions in your post address the topic.  If I were to address your post independent of the actual topic, I'd say your questions aren't questions at all, but a statement.

Now back to the topic, someone please tell me what adjustment a coach up 14 should have made to keep the lead.  I would think changing what you have done to build a 14 point lead (make shots) would be counterintuitive to winning.  I also need to know what adjustments a coach can make to ensure his players make shots & don't turn the ball over.

[catzacker]

don't play the player that is turning it over?

[felix rex]

Frank is missing the chunk of the brain that allows him to make 2nd half adjustments. He will tell you it's the players fault.

Was going to post something very similar.  

Of course you were.  It's not football dumbasses.  What adjustment do you make to stop your players from turning the ball over and to make shots?

Are you upset or disappointed by now? Seems like the problem is much larger (or at least fundamentally different than an "X/O" solution. So are you equally upset at the state of the program and blaming recruiting, or not upset and just chalking it up long term to the cyclical down years emerging programs almost inevitably face?

All three posts quoted by you are referencing 2nd half adjustments, none of the questions in your post address the topic.  If I were to address your post independent of the actual topic, I'd say your questions aren't questions at all, but a statement.

Now back to the topic, someone please tell me what adjustment a coach up 14 should have made to keep the lead.  I would think changing what you have done to build a 14 point lead (make shots) would be counterintuitive to winning.  I also need to know what adjustments a coach can make to ensure his players make shots & don't turn the ball over.

That's because I was acknowledging your point about second half adjustments and apparently putting forth a broader  "statement": I don't know if MIR is concerned this season and I would be interested to learn more about that.

Subtitle: Felix is losing faith and looking for answers.

[sys]

turnovers didn't lose this game.  the lead was lost during a stretch when kstate turned it over like twice.  you could argue that turnovers prevented kstate from competing better after ut had came back, but honestly, they weren't winning anyways.

[JKEYS]

I'm still waiting for one of the basketball savants on here to tell us what second half adjustments that Frank could have made.

With the disproportionate whistle blowing, would have liked to see Frank come out of the TO when Tex cut it to 8 with a zone D for a bit.  Give them a different look and hopefully slow the whistles a bit.  Not that it would have helped us not turn the ball over and take crappy shots...but still.  No adjustment.

[MakeItRain]

I'm still waiting for one of the basketball savants on here to tell us what second half adjustments that Frank could have made.

With the disproportionate whistle blowing, would have liked to see Frank come out of the TO when Tex cut it to 8 with a zone D for a bit.  Give them a different look and hopefully slow the whistles a bit.  Not that it would have helped us not turn the ball over and take crappy shots...but still.  No adjustment.

You still hand check in a zone.  That adjustment could have been made I suppose but I'm not sure if it would have made a difference.  Let's not forget UT also shot the ball very well, did you see what happened to Baylor's zone this morning in the second half when Mizzou started to hit shots?

[puniraptor]

This hurts a lot. I don't know what to do.

[JKEYS]

I'm still waiting for one of the basketball savants on here to tell us what second half adjustments that Frank could have made.

With the disproportionate whistle blowing, would have liked to see Frank come out of the TO when Tex cut it to 8 with a zone D for a bit.  Give them a different look and hopefully slow the whistles a bit.  Not that it would have helped us not turn the ball over and take crappy shots...but still.  No adjustment.

You still hand check in a zone.  That adjustment could have been made I suppose but I'm not sure if it would have made a difference.  Let's not forget UT also shot the ball very well, did you see what happened to Baylor's zone this morning in the second half when Mizzou started to hit shots?

True.  However, would think Texas would have taken a step back from driving and worked around the perimiter for a few posessions.  Again, not saying it would made two shits of a difference, but would have liked to see it.

[MakeItRain]

Frank is missing the chunk of the brain that allows him to make 2nd half adjustments. He will tell you it's the players fault.

Was going to post something very similar. 

Of course you were.  It's not football dumbasses.  What adjustment do you make to stop your players from turning the ball over and to make shots?

Are you upset or disappointed by now? Seems like the problem is much larger (or at least fundamentally different than an "X/O" solution. So are you equally upset at the state of the program and blaming recruiting, or not upset and just chalking it up long term to the cyclical down years emerging programs almost inevitably face?

All three posts quoted by you are referencing 2nd half adjustments, none of the questions in your post address the topic.  If I were to address your post independent of the actual topic, I'd say your questions aren't questions at all, but a statement.

Now back to the topic, someone please tell me what adjustment a coach up 14 should have made to keep the lead.  I would think changing what you have done to build a 14 point lead (make shots) would be counterintuitive to winning.  I also need to know what adjustments a coach can make to ensure his players make shots & don't turn the ball over.

That's because I was acknowledging your point about second half adjustments and apparently putting forth a boarder "statement":

 I don't know if MIR is concerned this season and I would be interested to learn more about that.
Subtitle: Felix is losing faith and looking for answers.

I'm not concerned but my goals for and impression of this team isn't that of others.  I would like for this team to be competitive game in and game out.  I would like for this team to be a viable threat to win the Big 12 tournament.  I would like for this team to qualify for the NCAA tournament.  All of these things are in front of this team and very attainable.  If you wanted a Big 12 title and a final four then you should be beyond worried.  Really I just want to be relevant in the CBB landscape.  If you stay relevant you will have the chance every few years or so to be really special.

What I don't understand are the faction who don't like the direction of recruiting, don't like the roster management, don't like in game coaching decisions but expect 27-5 seasons and conference championships.  I am mad as hell that this team can't hold leads, but I also realized that this team doesn't have the talent to go 15-3 in conference and the expectations need to be adjusted.  I refuse to grade this program on KUs curve.  Frank is still building his program, IMO he's yet to take a back step.  If we don't make the NCAA I view it as a lateral or small step back.  The program is in no way in a slide nor does it appear to be one on the way any time soon.  

So considering all of this, I'm good.

[felix rex]

Exactly what I was looking for/needed.

[sys]

What I don't understand are the faction who don't like the direction of recruiting, don't like the roster management, don't like in game coaching decisions but expect 27-5 seasons and conference championships.

very well said.

[Kat Kid]

What I don't understand are the faction who don't like the direction of recruiting, don't like the roster management, don't like in game coaching decisions but expect 27-5 seasons and conference championships.

very well said.

[kso_FAN]

What I don't understand are the faction who don't like the direction of recruiting, don't like the roster management, don't like in game coaching decisions but expect 27-5 seasons and conference championships.

very well said.

Yes.

Most realistic fans expected a .500ish Big 12 season. Those teams tend to lose games like OU, ISU, and yesterday. It's what .500 teams do, but I have to admit its still frustrating.

[MakeItRain]

What I don't understand are the faction who don't like the direction of recruiting, don't like the roster management, don't like in game coaching decisions but expect 27-5 seasons and conference championships.

very well said.

Yes.

Most realistic fans expected a .500ish Big 12 season. Those teams tend to lose games like OU, ISU, and yesterday. It's what .500 teams do, but I have to admit its still frustrating.

The line between being frustrated about individual results and being unreasonably stupid about the state of the program is a mile thick.

[kso_FAN]

What I don't understand are the faction who don't like the direction of recruiting, don't like the roster management, don't like in game coaching decisions but expect 27-5 seasons and conference championships.

very well said.

Yes.

Most realistic fans expected a .500ish Big 12 season. Those teams tend to lose games like OU, ISU, and yesterday. It's what .500 teams do, but I have to admit its still frustrating.

The line between being frustrated about individual results and being unreasonably stupid about the state of the program is a mile thick.

True. But many can cover that mile in seconds.

[SwiftCat]

The Missouri and Baylor games filled me with so much false hope.

[sys]

The Missouri and Baylor games filled me with so much false hope.

ut played a better game yesterday than baylor did on whatever day it was when they beat kstate.

[catzacker]

What I don't understand are the faction who don't like the direction of recruiting, don't like the roster management, don't like in game coaching decisions but expect 27-5 seasons and conference championships.

what is so hard to understand? Realizing that this team's talent level and age is consistent with that of a bubble/NIT team doesn't mean that it was okay for Frank to have allowed this team to end up with that talent level and age. 

I freaking understand that this team is a bubble team.  I freaking saw it really goddamn early.  But that doesn't mean I accept that as being okay.