Author Topic: UNC/Duke (Read 6974 times)

Stevesie60 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 08, 2012, 10:33:59 PM »

Would love to see one of those kenpom charts that graphs each team's chance of winning throughout the game for this game.

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #26 on:** February 08, 2012, 11:02:35 PM »

Quote from: Dlew12 on February 08, 2012, 10:26:22 PM

Zeller. Unbelievable how rough he was in the last 20 seconds.

Tipped in a bucket for Duke.
Missed free-throw.
Rivers hits the three in his face.

j-dub · « **Reply #27 on:** February 08, 2012, 11:11:26 PM »

was watching with a UNC alum. i lol'd so hard.

theRealWallyJudge · « **Reply #28 on:** February 08, 2012, 11:24:02 PM »

Quote from: bigDcat on February 08, 2012, 08:10:47 PM

Syracuse doesn't have a band? Weird.

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But that means they can't play the "the band is hot" song

sys · « **Reply #29 on:** February 09, 2012, 01:24:40 AM »

Quote from: Stevesie60 on February 08, 2012, 10:33:59 PM

Would love to see one of those kenpom charts that graphs each team's chance of winning throughout the game for this game.

http://kenpom.com/winprob.php?g=4086

SwiftCat · « **Reply #30 on:** February 09, 2012, 01:51:58 AM »

Quote from: sys on February 09, 2012, 01:24:40 AM

Quote from: Stevesie60 on February 08, 2012, 10:33:59 PM
Would love to see one of those kenpom charts that graphs each team's chance of winning throughout the game for this game.

http://kenpom.com/winprob.php?g=4086

Someone who's not cheap, post a screenshot for the people who are cheap.

mcmwcat · « **Reply #31 on:** February 09, 2012, 07:20:05 AM »

MIR will make fun of me

bigwillie20 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 09, 2012, 08:10:49 AM »

Quote from: OregonHawk on February 08, 2012, 08:41:51 PM

KU/Mizzou makes this Duke/UNC game look like amateur hour.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #33 on:** February 09, 2012, 09:17:17 AM »

Quote from: mcmwcat on February 09, 2012, 07:20:05 AM

MIR will make fun of me

Nah, his win probability charts are legit and for college basketball, unique. Besides I'm humbled by my first post in this thread and because I broke my own rule and changed the channel with UNC up 10 with 2 minutes left.

mcmwcat · « **Reply #34 on:** February 09, 2012, 09:52:10 AM »

i xboxed during the game and dvr'd. otherwise i might have switched it w/ 2 minutes to go. i rewound the last shot 5 times to see how rivers got so open and couldn't believe they switched a big man onto him.

Stevesie60 · « **Reply #35 on:** February 09, 2012, 09:54:19 AM »

That chart's amazing.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #36 on:** February 09, 2012, 10:02:33 AM »

statsheet does some game flow tracking as well: http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2012/02/08/duke-85-north-carolina-84/flow

MakeItRain · « **Reply #37 on:** February 09, 2012, 10:07:00 AM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on February 09, 2012, 10:02:33 AM

statsheet does some game flow tracking as well: http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2012/02/08/duke-85-north-carolina-84/flow

I've seen there's and don't love it. Pomeroy legitimately does WP better than any other CBB stat head.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #38 on:** February 09, 2012, 10:08:47 AM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on February 09, 2012, 10:07:00 AM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on February 09, 2012, 10:02:33 AM
statsheet does some game flow tracking as well: http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2012/02/08/duke-85-north-carolina-84/flow

I've seen there's and don't love it. Pomeroy legitimately does WP better than any other CBB stat head.

I agree.

pissclams · « **Reply #39 on:** February 09, 2012, 10:13:46 AM »

Quote from: mcmwcat on February 09, 2012, 09:52:10 AM

i xboxed during the game and dvr'd. otherwise i might have switched it w/ 2 minutes to go. i rewound the last shot 5 times to see how rivers got so open and couldn't believe they switched a big man onto him.

roy studied frank's amazing last second kevin jones defense

AppleJack · « **Reply #40 on:** February 09, 2012, 10:24:52 AM »

Duke shot 36 3's, over half their shots. That is infuriating to me.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #41 on:** February 09, 2012, 10:25:40 AM »

Quote from: AppleJack on February 09, 2012, 10:24:52 AM

Duke shot 36 3's, over half their shots. That is infuriating to me.

Did you mean for this to be in the KU fans thread?

catzacker · « **Reply #42 on:** February 09, 2012, 10:29:01 AM »

Quote from: pissclams on February 09, 2012, 10:13:46 AM

roy studied frank's amazing last second kevin jones defense

AppleJack · « **Reply #43 on:** February 09, 2012, 10:32:18 AM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on February 09, 2012, 10:25:40 AM

Quote from: AppleJack on February 09, 2012, 10:24:52 AM
Duke shot 36 3's, over half their shots. That is infuriating to me.

Did you mean for this to be in the KU fans thread?

It was very upsetting to me because I had UNC to finish off my parlay last night and they ruined my evening.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #44 on:** February 09, 2012, 10:33:27 AM »

Quote from: catzacker on February 09, 2012, 10:29:01 AM

Quote from: pissclams on February 09, 2012, 10:13:46 AM

roy studied frank's amazing last second kevin jones defense

Rivers shot was easy be comparison. At least Jones had to hit a step-back.

pissclams · « **Reply #45 on:** February 09, 2012, 11:10:48 AM »

jones has the height to shoot over the 7 footer, rivers was deeper and mismatched by zellar's height.

SdK · « **Reply #46 on:** February 09, 2012, 11:22:06 AM »

zella had his arms down and was 4 feet from him, his height did not matter.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #47 on:** February 09, 2012, 11:30:35 AM »

I'm really surprised Roy had them switch on the ball screen (which was clearly a moving screen, but no way they call it there). The defender could've easily gotten over the top and still defended the shot, or at least made the shot more difficult.

pissclams · « **Reply #48 on:** February 09, 2012, 12:19:52 PM »

roy's strategy makes sense when you think about it, i think zellar just screwed up and played it wrong. rivers has nba range and isn't afraid to launch it from well beyond the college 3-pt line. roy anticipated the ball screen and told the taller zellar to switch, forcing rivers into a deeper shot. zellar made the switch as he would against a normal shooter and didn't press up into rivers, instead giving up the shot rivers had already shown he could make several times that night. good strategy on roy, poor execution on zellar.

imo. maybe we're saying the same thing.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #49 on:** February 09, 2012, 12:25:28 PM »

Quote from: pissclams on February 09, 2012, 12:19:52 PM

roy's strategy makes sense when you think about it, i think zellar just screwed up and played it wrong. rivers has nba range and isn't afraid to launch it from well beyond the college 3-pt line. roy anticipated the ball screen and told the taller zellar to switch, forcing rivers into a deeper shot. zellar made the switch as he would against a normal shooter and didn't press up into rivers, instead giving up the shot rivers had already shown he could make several times that night. good strategy on roy, poor execution on zellar.

imo. maybe we're saying the same thing.

Yeah, pretty much. If you switch you tell Zeller to play outside the arc, and obviously he didn't. If Zeller gets beat, the worst that likely could happen is a tie with a 2 point jumper.

Our defense at the end of WVU was much worse IMO because a 2 couldn't have tied it.