Author Topic: Tech: Worst Ever? (Read 8993 times)

kso_FAN · « **on:** February 07, 2012, 07:57:07 AM »

Tech is bad, we've all seen it. Their closest game in Big 12 play was an 8 point loss to Oklahoma State and they have one game with an offensive efficiency of >1.0 PPP. They are currently #245 in kenpom and no Big 12 team has finished >200 in the kenpom era (since 2003). Of course this doesn't account for Watkin's aTm team, but that's about the only team I can think of that may have been worse. Offensively they are the worst shooting team, worst TO% team, and next to worst offensive rebounding team in the league. They are also worst at forcing TOs and send people to the FT line more than we do (or anyone else in the league). The one thing they do moderately well is defensive rebound, but we O-boarded at nearly a 42% clip in Lubbock.

I could possible worry about a post like this jinxing us tonight, but I won't. They had a TO 1 out of every 3 possessions last time, I wouldn't expect that to change tonight, plus I doubt their middle school guard will go off like he did in Lubbock.

Cats 78
Tech 62

06wildcat · « **Reply #1 on:** February 07, 2012, 08:00:57 AM »

Don't like this thread.

wes mantooth · « **Reply #2 on:** February 07, 2012, 08:05:59 AM »

Tech is the worst team ever, at any level. You won't have to blame this thread if we lose, because i'll have already started 8 different threads on how bad our players suck.

CNS · « **Reply #3 on:** February 07, 2012, 08:52:26 AM »

Billy is playing for next year.

He will have them good in a couple seasons.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #4 on:** February 07, 2012, 08:53:59 AM »

Quote from: CNS Casey on February 07, 2012, 08:52:26 AM

Billy is playing for next year.

He will have them good in a couple seasons.

Yes, agree with both.

catzacker · « **Reply #5 on:** February 07, 2012, 09:13:03 AM »

Biily won't have Melvin Watkins walking through that recruiting door for him.

mocat · « **Reply #6 on:** February 07, 2012, 09:43:07 AM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on February 07, 2012, 07:57:07 AM

Cats 78
Tech 62

I don't think they will score anywhere close to 62.

AbeFroman · « **Reply #7 on:** February 07, 2012, 09:44:56 AM »

The only thing I'm worried about is how terrible the crowd is going to be tonight. Don't expect any booing or noise. But Tech is epically bad and we already beat them in a silent arena

kougar24 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 07, 2012, 10:22:49 AM »

Quote from: wes mantooth on February 07, 2012, 08:05:59 AM

Tech is the worst team ever, at any level. You won't have to blame this thread if we lose, because i'll have already started 8 different threads on how bad our players suck.

Yeah, if we lose tonight either a) no one will be on this board ("Turn out the lights..."), or b) no one will stop melting down long enough to remember this thread.

I'm guessing the former; losing to Tech would bring on the wave of resignation and indifference, not a heated meltdown.

michigancat · « **Reply #9 on:** February 07, 2012, 10:24:48 AM »

Watkins' team with zero wins was probably the most freakish talent/wins gap in history. He had Acie Law and Antoine Wright!

kougar24 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 07, 2012, 10:30:46 AM »

Quote from: michigancat on February 07, 2012, 10:24:48 AM

Watkins' team with zero wins was probably the most freakish talent/wins gap in history. He had Acie Law and Antoine Wright!

His bigs situation was a clusterfrack, wasn't it?

kso_FAN · « **Reply #11 on:** February 07, 2012, 10:34:46 AM »

Quote from: michigancat on February 07, 2012, 10:24:48 AM

Watkins' team with zero wins was probably the most freakish talent/wins gap in history. He had Acie Law and Antoine Wright!

And Nick Anderson!

I originally thought it was earlier than 03, but that team was #167 in kenpom. Watkins was terrible that year.

catzacker · « **Reply #12 on:** February 07, 2012, 10:51:29 AM »

Quote from: kougar24 on February 07, 2012, 10:22:49 AM

Quote from: wes mantooth on February 07, 2012, 08:05:59 AM
Tech is the worst team ever, at any level. You won't have to blame this thread if we lose, because i'll have already started 8 different threads on how bad our players suck.

Yeah, if we lose tonight either a) no one will be on this board ("Turn out the lights..."), or b) no one will stop melting down long enough to remember this thread.

I'm guessing the former; losing to Tech would bring on the wave of resignation and indifference, not a heated meltdown.

it would be the worst loss ever in the frank martin era from a rpi standpoint. it should call for a meltdown that would put chernobyl to shame, imo. Even I think we're going to win the game.

kougar24 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 07, 2012, 11:11:49 AM »

Quote from: catzacker on February 07, 2012, 10:51:29 AM

Quote from: kougar24 on February 07, 2012, 10:22:49 AM
Quote from: wes mantooth on February 07, 2012, 08:05:59 AM
Tech is the worst team ever, at any level. You won't have to blame this thread if we lose, because i'll have already started 8 different threads on how bad our players suck.

Yeah, if we lose tonight either a) no one will be on this board ("Turn out the lights..."), or b) no one will stop melting down long enough to remember this thread.

I'm guessing the former; losing to Tech would bring on the wave of resignation and indifference, not a heated meltdown.

it would be the worst loss ever in the frank martin era from a rpi standpoint. it should call for a meltdown that would put chernobyl to shame, imo. Even I think we're going to win the game.

I think indifference is the worst kind of meltdown possible.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #14 on:** February 07, 2012, 11:17:04 AM »

It would be one of the worst home losses ever.

But we aren't going to lose.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 07, 2012, 11:31:44 AM »

I'm not convinced Billie Clyde will magically get them going in a few years. He was pretty bad in Kentucky.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #16 on:** February 07, 2012, 11:38:34 AM »

Quote from: CartierFor3 on February 07, 2012, 11:31:44 AM

I'm not convinced Billie Clyde will magically get them going in a few years. He was pretty bad in Kentucky.

It will be interesting to see. He inherited some really good players at aTm, and that helped him a lot, but his teams also played really hard and were good on defense. I think he can get Tech to be a competitive mid-level Big 12 team, but we'll see.

felix rex · « **Reply #17 on:** February 07, 2012, 12:29:39 PM »

Quote from: kougar24 on February 07, 2012, 11:11:49 AM

Quote from: catzacker on February 07, 2012, 10:51:29 AM
Quote from: kougar24 on February 07, 2012, 10:22:49 AM
Quote from: wes mantooth on February 07, 2012, 08:05:59 AM
Tech is the worst team ever, at any level. You won't have to blame this thread if we lose, because i'll have already started 8 different threads on how bad our players suck.

Yeah, if we lose tonight either a) no one will be on this board ("Turn out the lights..."), or b) no one will stop melting down long enough to remember this thread.

I'm guessing the former; losing to Tech would bring on the wave of resignation and indifference, not a heated meltdown.

it would be the worst loss ever in the frank martin era from a rpi standpoint. it should call for a meltdown that would put chernobyl to shame, imo. Even I think we're going to win the game.

I think indifference is the worst kind of meltdown possible.

This. A Tech loss would kill off a lot of canaries.

nicname · « **Reply #18 on:** February 07, 2012, 01:32:12 PM »

I doubt Tech scores much over 50 points.

KSU 70 something
TT high 40s or low 50s

Underdog Wildcat · « **Reply #19 on:** February 07, 2012, 03:40:31 PM »

BCG loves him some JC's, 3 in last year's class, 3 more for '12. Who knows, the next Pierre Jackson might be bouncing around out there somewhere.

I think Tolbert is legit and is a solid piece to be build around. Wagner showed some skils the 1st time around agains the Cats but I think he's going to have to put on some weight in order to be their PG of the future. SG Ty Nurse has really turned it on since the game in Lubbock(OK sorta), averaging 14.3 pts and shooting 41% from 3.

The bottom line tonight is just win, which doesn't appear to be a monumental task, but it would be nice to coast home(aka PT for walkons) with a 15+ pt victory.

bigwillie20 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 07, 2012, 03:46:44 PM »

Quote from: Underdog Wildcat on February 07, 2012, 03:40:31 PM

but it would be nice to coast home(aka PT for walkons) with a 15+ pt victory.

at ever building a lead up big enough to coast. If we manage do get up by 15 we will piss down our leg per usual and let them back in it

Underdog Wildcat · « **Reply #21 on:** February 07, 2012, 03:50:30 PM »

You do realize we won by 22 in Lubbock right? That game wasn't any closer than 15 for the majority of the 2nd half.

I'm not denying that the KSU Cats have had some difficulty closing this year, but in Tech, we're not talking about an even average B12 team, they're just plain bad.

CNS · « **Reply #22 on:** February 07, 2012, 04:20:24 PM »

I thought Tolbert was very good and the most athletic guy on the court when we played them.

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #23 on:** February 07, 2012, 06:05:23 PM »

Quote from: Underdog Wildcat on February 07, 2012, 03:50:30 PM

You do realize we won by 22 in Lubbock right? That game wasn't any closer than 15 for the majority of the 2nd half.

I'm not denying that the KSU Cats have had some difficulty closing this year, but in Tech, we're not talking about an even average B12 team, they're just plain bad.

no, he wasn't watching. He wasn't going to watch the FP's anymore.

puniraptor · « **Reply #24 on:** February 07, 2012, 08:08:51 PM »

Tech read this thread and got fired up to solidify their place as worst ever.