I have to ask this because I just don't seem to understand...

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Right or wrong, all candidates who aren't very high up in other areas of govt have an idea of what they want to accomplish on serious issues(gitmo, iraq, iran, etc) but aren't working with a full set of data.  They just aren't cleared to know what I would imagine is some pretty important information until they are actually president.

Again, I think many presidents don't know what they are getting into fully until they are there.  I mean, can you imagine that first session with the CIA, FBI, etc and being filled in on all the intimate info on such situations?  Talk about overwhelming.  Gotta imagine it requires candidates to somewhat stay on their toes and remap their term almost immediately in some cases.

Not saying this to give Obama a pass on anything.  I imagine this happens to all new pres's, not just the ones w/ blue ties.

He was a rough ridin' Senator and sat on the Homeland Security Committee you idiot.  He was privy to all kinds of intel re: gitmo, iran, iraq. 

He either never showed up for committee or lied and misrepresented what he could do and what was possible.  Either way, it's indefensible.

My comment was not in defense of Obama, but as a general note about all candidates and their plans for their would be terms.

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Welp, I imagine that answers your question, Pan. Glad we could help.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I don't know if you've noticed this or not, but not a single legitimate reason has been offered up as to why any of the republican candidates are not "viable" or "legitimate" presidential candidates.

None of them are viable because three of them are completely unelectable in a national election (Paul, Santorum, Gingrich) and the fourth doesn't have the political polish to defeat as skilled a politician as Obama, who also happens to be a part of a non-traditional religion that still hasn't been fully embraced by the populous.

Why did you even ask?

#thingsDemsDisguisedAsLibsSay  I'm a really open minded person, but I just can't see myself voting for someone who isn't more politiciany than Obama, regardless of policy, record, and performance

Closed minded idiot without a point

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If the "god damn America" black preacher didn't scare off enough Americans for Obama to lose in 2008, I don't see Mormonism doing it to Romney, either. In fact, given everything else about Romney, it appears the Mormons may be nicely positioned to become the new Jews.

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Closed minded idiot without a point

You stole that slogan from your business card, didn't you?

[Panjandrum]

Santorum may win all three states tonight.

I can hear Yakity Sax playing from now until Tampa.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Closed minded idiot without a point

I really want to keep an open mind, but with the opponent being a successful mormon businessman who doesn't appear to be a slick politician, I just don't see how he can be a viable candidate.

Translation:  I've already made up my mind and nothing can change it.

You'd vote democrat if the dem candidate was a convicted child molester and devout voodooist

gmafb, how transparent

[Panjandrum]

Closed minded idiot without a point

I really want to keep an open mind, but with the opponent being a successful mormon businessman who doesn't appear to be a slick politician, I just don't see how he can be a viable candidate.

Translation:  I've already made up my mind and nothing can change it.

You'd vote democrat if the dem candidate was a convicted child molester and devout voodooist

gmafb, how transparent

Incorrect.  No matter who runs against Jay Nixon when he goes up for re-election will get my vote, so there's at least one Republican.

My choices for Republican Presidents, since I've been old enough to vote, were:

George W. Bush
George W. Bush
John McCain

No, No, and Not the 2008 version with Sarah Palin as his running mate.

So, give me a break here.  It's not like anyone has swayed me (a registered independent) to vote for a Republican.

Anyway, back on point.  You are being a gigantic hypocrite here.

I now await a 3000 word response that I won't read.

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take one look at how awkward and fake romney looks, and you can tell he won't do anything in the general election.

he is the exact same thing as kerry, a tall, awkward, rich, white guy thrown to the incumbents alter.

and most republicans will love this because after he loses, he won't be sullying their christian primary's any longer.

[Panjandrum]

and most republicans will love this because after he loses, he won't be sullying their christian primary's any longer.

Which is sad because I wanted to get to know Huntsman a little more.  I was intrigued by what I saw.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Incorrect.  No matter who runs against Jay Nixon when he goes up for re-election will get my vote, so there's at least one Republican.

My choices for Republican Presidents, since I've been old enough to vote, were:

George W. Bush
George W. Bush
John McCain

No, No, and Not the 2008 version with Sarah Palin as his running mate.

So, give me a break here.  It's not like anyone has swayed me (a registered independent) to vote for a Republican.

Anyway, back on point.  You are being a gigantic hypocrite here.

I now await a 3000 word response that I won't read.

Also, you're other choices were:

Gore
Kerry
Obama

GMAFB 

[star seed 7]

If you dont see how obama (as a candidate in the general election) is so far above any of the others since clinton, then you are the blind one.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

If you dont see how obama (as a candidate in the general election) is so far above any of the others since clinton, then you are the blind one.

articulate please

[SdK]

If you dont see how obama (as a candidate in the general election) is so far above any of the others since clinton, then you are the blind one.

articulate please

 


I don't plan on replying, because I already stated why I voted for Obama, but I am curious why you thought McCain/Palin was a better option last election.

TIA,

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

If you dont see how obama (as a candidate in the general election) is so far above any of the others since clinton, then you are the blind one.

articulate please

 


I don't plan on replying, because I already stated why I voted for Obama, but I am curious why you thought McCain/Palin was a better option last election.

TIA,

link?

[SdK]

If you dont see how obama (as a candidate in the general election) is so far above any of the others since clinton, then you are the blind one.

articulate please

 


I don't plan on replying, because I already stated why I voted for Obama, but I am curious why you thought McCain/Palin was a better option last election.

TIA,

link?

Let me get this straight, you thought his campaign was bullshit and come across very angry and hateful towards it. And you want me to prove that you thought McCain was a better candidate?

Are you saying Obama WAS the better candidate last election?
Or what's the deal?

Sitting on the fence casting stones, is that your position? I know it's easier when you've nothing to defend, but then why should anyone have to defend anything towards you?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Let me get this straight, you thought his campaign was bullshit yesand come across very angry and hateful towards it. And you want me to prove that you thought McCain was a better candidate?no

Are you saying Obama WAS the better candidate last election? no
Or what's the deal? not a "strong candidate"

Sitting on the fence casting stones, is that your position? saying Sugar Dick is on the fence about anything is absurd I know it's easier when you've nothing to defend,I agree you would know but then why should anyone have to defend anything towards you? no one is forcing you to bbs

This thread is about Romney not being a "strong candidate".  I have no idea why or what that means or what it's based on.  I pointed out that Obama doesn't seem to be strong when compared directly to Romney.

You seem to be overly concerned with "feelings" and how someone makes you "feel".  That word is a crutch for the ignorant and illiterate, when used alone it has virtually no meaning in print.  Just stop