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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #50 on: February 05, 2012, 10:40:45 PM »
We will win 5 of 8 to close this bitch out. Frank has a hard on for this time of year. Cutting drew off at the kneecaps in waco will be awesome.
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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #51 on: February 05, 2012, 10:41:54 PM »
Does ISU project to finish 11-7?

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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #52 on: February 05, 2012, 10:49:32 PM »
Since the North and South no longer exist, what's the tiebreaker if we finished tied for 4th with ISU? The obvious assumption being that we beat them here.

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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2012, 10:53:31 PM »
Since the North and South no longer exist, what's the tiebreaker if we finished tied for 4th with ISU? The obvious assumption being that we beat them here.

We get 4th because we'd wear our elite home gray unis in the tourney game.

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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2012, 10:57:08 PM »
Since the North and South no longer exist, what's the tiebreaker if we finished tied for 4th with ISU? The obvious assumption being that we beat them here.

We get 4th because we'd wear our elite home gray unis in the tourney game.
Nope, denied. They get 4th for dobing better with white. That's always the tie breaker.

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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2012, 11:29:22 PM »
That WVU loss still grinds my gears.

Of all of our close losses, that's the one that grinds your gears?

Did I say it was the only one?

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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #56 on: February 06, 2012, 12:48:42 AM »
Does ISU project to finish 11-7?

Not that it matters for anything but that's what I had them at using the bracket generator, had KSU at 10-8

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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #57 on: February 06, 2012, 12:51:25 AM »
Since the North and South no longer exist, what's the tiebreaker if we finished tied for 4th with ISU? The obvious assumption being that we beat them here.

    Tiebreakers. The first criteria in the breaking of ties in the standings shall be head-to-head competition of tied teams. The following procedure will be used to establish the postseason championship seeds when ties exist.

        Ties Involving Two Teams.

            Results of head-to-head competition during the regular season.

            Each team's record vs. the team occupying the highest position in the final regular-season standings, and then continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.


            When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team's record against the collective tied teams as a group (prior to that group's own tie-breaking procedure), rather than the performance against individual tied teams.

            A comparison of the tied teams Conference-games only road record.

            A comparison of the tied teams Conference-games only road record vs. the team(s) occupying the highest position in the final Conference regular season standings, and then continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.

            When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team's record against the collective tied teams as a group (prior to that group's own tie-breaking procedure), rather than the performance against individual tied teams.

            Draw. In the event tiebreaking procedures are unsuccessful and a draw is necessary in determining any portion of seeding, the following procedure will be used:

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            If more than two teams are still tied, a comparison of the tied teams Conference-games only road record.

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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #58 on: February 06, 2012, 12:54:47 AM »
Does ISU project to finish 11-7?

Not that it matters for anything but that's what I had them at using the bracket generator, had KSU at 10-8

It matters in that I want to be in the elite top 4 and not in zacker's battle for 5th world.

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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #59 on: February 06, 2012, 09:19:23 AM »
ISU has @OSU and aTm
KSU has Tech and @UT
UT has @aTm and KSU
OSU has ISU and @KU

Hopefully OSU can pull off another home win vs ISU; I don't count on them winning in Lawrence. Would be really nice for us to have a 2-0 week.

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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #60 on: February 06, 2012, 09:22:29 PM »
Do we care about UT/A&M?

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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #61 on: February 06, 2012, 09:31:03 PM »
"a garden city man wondered in april if the theologians had not made a mistake in locating the garden of eden in asia rather than in the arkansas river valley."

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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #62 on: February 06, 2012, 10:50:13 PM »

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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #63 on: February 12, 2012, 11:30:04 AM »
KSU :  KU, @ BU, @ MU, ISU, @A&M, OSU
UT    : @ OU, @ OSU, BU, @ TT, OU, @ KU
OSU : @MU, UT, @ OU, A&M, KU, @ KSU

UT has 4 games against teams below them in the standings.....OSU and KSU have 2

hello 6th, vs Baylor in the conf tourney.  usually we get beat by ku 3 times in a year, now we'll have the opportunity to have Colorado and Baylor to that list.  thank god those games against OU were in january. 


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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #64 on: February 12, 2012, 03:15:58 PM »
KSU :  KU, @ BU, @ MU, ISU, @A&M, OSU
UT    : @ OU, @ OSU, BU, @ TT, OU, @ KU
OSU : @MU, UT, @ OU, A&M, KU, @ KSU

UT has 4 games against teams below them in the standings.....OSU and KSU have 2

hello 6th, vs Baylor in the conf tourney.  usually we get beat by ku 3 times in a year, now we'll have the opportunity to have Colorado and Baylor to that list.  thank god those games against OU were in january. 



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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #65 on: February 12, 2012, 03:18:05 PM »
KSU :  KU, @ BU, @ MU, ISU, @A&M, OSU
UT    : @ OU, @ OSU, BU, @ TT, OU, @ KU
OSU : @MU, UT, @ OU, A&M, KU, @ KSU

UT has 4 games against teams below them in the standings.....OSU and KSU have 2

hello 6th, vs Baylor in the conf tourney.  usually we get beat by ku 3 times in a year, now we'll have the opportunity to have Colorado and Baylor to that list.  thank god those games against OU were in january. 





I think we beat Baylor in Waco, and also win the last three on our schedule...and make the NCAA's.

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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #66 on: February 16, 2012, 08:05:25 AM »
KSU :  @ BU, @ MU, ISU, @A&M, OSU
UT    : @ OSU, BU, @ TT, OU, @ KU
OSU : UT, @ OU, A&M, KU, @ KSU

5th will be tough, even if we win our last 3. We need UT to lose 3 in that scenario, and with their schedule and the way they've been playing that looks unlikely. We get OSU at our place and a win gives us the sweep and tiebreakers. If we tied with UT, I believe we have the tiebreaker via our win over Missouri, unless they beat KU in Lawrence.

To feel good about 5th, we need to win one of the next two, I'd say our best shot is Saturday.

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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #67 on: February 16, 2012, 08:10:42 AM »
dream semi final in KC means we need this finish

3. Baylor
4. ISU/UT
5. ISU/UT
6. KSU

may provide for a KSU/KU/ISU/MU Friday night.

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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #68 on: February 16, 2012, 08:14:32 AM »
dream semi final in KC means we need this finish

3. Baylor
4. ISU/UT
5. ISU/UT
6. KSU

may provide for a KSU/KU/ISU/MU Friday night.

I think ISU/BU swapping the 3/4 spots is just as likely (if not more) than ISU/UT swapping 4/5.

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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #69 on: February 16, 2012, 03:57:30 PM »
One thing for sure, during this "run" K-State is likely going to play some tremendously boring basketball.


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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #70 on: February 16, 2012, 04:57:46 PM »
One thing for sure, during this "run" K-State is likely going to play some tremendously boring basketball.




Can't be any more boring than watching Colin Klein roll out to his right and fall forward for four yards on every single play. 

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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #71 on: February 16, 2012, 06:39:54 PM »
One thing for sure, during this "run" K-State is likely going to play some tremendously boring basketball.




Can't be any more boring than watching Colin Klein roll out to his right and fall forward for four yards on every single play. 


Tyler Lockett 100 yd KO returns work pretty well if you're worried about what's "exciting" and what's not.

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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #72 on: February 16, 2012, 06:41:10 PM »
My thoughts on this thread can be entirely summed up by the following video.


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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #73 on: February 16, 2012, 08:24:23 PM »
Isn't this a basketball board?   :dunno:

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Re: The Battle for 5th
« Reply #74 on: February 16, 2012, 08:36:21 PM »
This has been a pretty great meltdown  :popcorn: