John Currie, what a stud!

[sys]

the people saying buyouts don't matter are just wrong.  they're huge.


i think the buyout drops on may 14.  something like that.  which is probably the end of the spring signing period.  which would make it really difficult for a school to wait for, but not, completely impossible.

[kso_FAN]

the people saying buyouts don't matter are just wrong.  they're huge.


i think the buyout drops on may 14.  something like that.  which is probably the end of the spring signing period.  which would make it really difficult for a school to wait for, but not, completely impossible.

For the future, yeah. 

But I think its pretty safe for this year, otherwise they wouldn't have agreed on the date and the 2mil figure.  Unless you think Frank at the presser was all a big acting job.

[kougar24]

Frank has many talents, but I'm confident that acting is not one of them.

[steve dave]

Frank has many talents, but I'm confident that acting is not one of them.

yep

[Trim]

Nice thing about the buyout dropping quickly is it'll give us the opportunity to break out our PAY FRANK shirts and do this all over again.  Will goEMAW'rs have gained weight and have to order bigger sizes?  Will Pete be ordering a smaller size?  Questions abound.

[steve dave]

Nice thing about the buyout dropping quickly is it'll give us the opportunity to break out our PAY FRANK shirts and do this all over again.  Will goEMAW'rs have gained weight and have to order bigger sizes?  Will Pete be ordering a smaller size?  Questions abound.

I will shoe-horn my ass into anything.  You should know this by now.

[Daddy Claxton]

If Frank gets hired away, it is going to be to a school that isn't worried about how much it costs to get him*.  The only difference the buy-out amount makes, is how much KSU will get when Frank gets hired away.   

*Miami is the exception, but $1M is probably enough to keep them away from Frank, imo.  Not sure if they would pay $750k if Frank is still in the top ten in 2 years.   

[sys]

But I think its pretty safe for this year, otherwise they wouldn't have agreed on the date and the 2mil figure.  Unless you think Frank at the presser was all a big acting job.

yeah, no, i agree.  there are very significant barriers to him leaving this spring.  and, of course, he didn't need to sign anything if he wanted to look around following this year.


i just think that, given that martin seems relatively content at kstate, and given the very generous terms of the contract otherwise, currie seems like he could have gotten a lot more long-term security for kstate than he did.

[kougar24]

i just think that, given that martin seems relatively content at kstate, and given the very generous terms of the contract otherwise, currie seems like he could have gotten a lot more long-term security for kstate than he did.

I think he was smart not to push the threshold too much.

[steve dave]

i just think that, given that martin seems relatively content at kstate, and given the very generous terms of the contract otherwise, currie seems like he could have gotten a lot more long-term security for kstate than he did.

I think he was smart not to push the threshold too much.

plus, he was under a lot of pressure to get this done asap 

[kougar24]

i just think that, given that martin seems relatively content at kstate, and given the very generous terms of the contract otherwise, currie seems like he could have gotten a lot more long-term security for kstate than he did.

I think he was smart not to push the threshold too much.

plus, he was under a lot of pressure to get this done asap 

Also true.

[sys]

i just think that, given that martin seems relatively content at kstate, and given the very generous terms of the contract otherwise, currie seems like he could have gotten a lot more long-term security for kstate than he did.

I think he was smart not to push the threshold too much.

why?  what is smart about it?

[kougar24]

i just think that, given that martin seems relatively content at kstate, and given the very generous terms of the contract otherwise, currie seems like he could have gotten a lot more long-term security for kstate than he did.

I think he was smart not to push the threshold too much.

why?  what is smart about it?

I could see Frank getting pissed if Currie tried to shazbot! around too much. Just a hunch. But either way, the deal is fine, so I'm not going to wish for more.

[sys]

But either way, the deal is fine, so I'm not going to wish for more.

yeah, i suppose.  but what else are we going to talk about, wed. games?  pfft.

[doom]

i just think that, given that martin seems relatively content at kstate, and given the very generous terms of the contract otherwise, currie seems like he could have gotten a lot more long-term security for kstate than he did.

I think he was smart not to push the threshold too much.

why?  what is smart about it?

I never understand having a buyout for less than 1 mil, but I do understand that buyouts are the thing you flex on the most second being incentive percentages.  It's very smart to give on something sort of miniscule like that for a big win and a reasonable but not excessive salary.  

But either way, the deal is fine, so I'm not going to wish for more.

yeah, i suppose.  but what else are we going to talk about, wed. games?  pfft.

Of course.  How else can I excuse Saturday if I do not hype up the new hot team in the big 12 going into the conference tourney the ISU clones?

[kougar24]

But either way, the deal is fine, so I'm not going to wish for more.

yeah, i suppose.  but what else are we going to talk about, wed. games?  pfft.

Spring football....

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......ppffffffffffffttttttt lol j/k bro.

[Cire]

I think he'll be here a long time if he continues to keep us in the top half and we don't dick him over on facilities.

[sys]

I think he'll be here a long time if he continues to keep us in the top half and we don't dick him over on facilities.

yeah.  honestly, for all the lolling i'm doing at currie for the buyout inequity, martin is not a guy many schools will look at now.  his average salary including fairly easy bonuses (ones he's going to make if other schools are going to continue to have any interest in him) is going to be in the 1.7-1.8 range.  add a 1 million buyout to that, plus compensation to martin for losing his retention incentives, plus the diff between normal asst coach salaries and what the kstate staff is/will be making - some school is going to be looking at about 2.0-2.5/year over the course of a 5 year contract just to match what kstate is paying.

a school could get a guy with a substantially better resume w. no public relations issues for that kind of money.

[steve dave]

I think he'll be here a long time if he continues to keep us in the top half and we don't dick him over on facilities.

yeah.  honestly, for all the lolling i'm doing at currie for the buyout inequity, martin is not a guy many schools will look at now.  his average salary including fairly easy bonuses (ones he's going to make if other schools are going to continue to have any interest in him) is going to be in the 1.7-1.8 range.  add a 1 million buyout to that, plus compensation to martin for losing his retention incentives, plus the diff between normal asst coach salaries and what the kstate staff is/will be making - some school is going to be looking at about 2.0-2.5/year over the course of a 5 year contract just to match what kstate is paying.

a school could get a guy with a substantially better resume w. no public relations issues for that kind of money.

Great breakdown.  I'm happy where we are at. 

[sys]

I think he'll be here a long time if he continues to keep us in the top half and we don't dick him over on facilities.

yeah.  honestly, for all the lolling i'm doing at currie for the buyout inequity, martin is not a guy many schools will look at now.  his average salary including fairly easy bonuses (ones he's going to make if other schools are going to continue to have any interest in him) is going to be in the 1.7-1.8 range.  add a 1 million buyout to that, plus compensation to martin for losing his retention incentives, plus the diff between normal asst coach salaries and what the kstate staff is/will be making - some school is going to be looking at about 2.0-2.5/year over the course of a 5 year contract just to match what kstate is paying.

a school could get a guy with a substantially better resume w. no public relations issues for that kind of money.

Great breakdown.  I'm happy where we are at. 

just realized i counted the retention bonuses twice.  oh well, doesn't change the numbers that much.

[kougar24]

I think he'll be here a long time if he continues to keep us in the top half and we don't dick him over on facilities.

yeah.  honestly, for all the lolling i'm doing at currie for the buyout inequity, martin is not a guy many schools will look at now.  his average salary including fairly easy bonuses (ones he's going to make if other schools are going to continue to have any interest in him) is going to be in the 1.7-1.8 range.  add a 1 million buyout to that, plus compensation to martin for losing his retention incentives, plus the diff between normal asst coach salaries and what the kstate staff is/will be making - some school is going to be looking at about 2.0-2.5/year over the course of a 5 year contract just to match what kstate is paying.

a school could get a guy with a substantially better resume w. no public relations issues for that kind of money.

There you go.

[econocat]

Bachelor’s degree; minimum of 5-10 years of progressive experience in collegiate athletics or related field; experience with NCAA post-season basketball and major bowl games; demonstrated history of creatively expanding attendance and awareness of women’s and men’s basketball and major bowl games; demonstrated history of creatively expanding attendance and awareness of women’s and Olympic sports; experience working with high profile coaches and student-athletes in a comprehensive university setting; attention to detail, excellent interpersonal skills and excellent written and oral communication skills a must

Does message boarding count as a related field? 

[kso_FAN]

"I know [DePaul] reached out to Frank Martin before he re-signed with Kansas State," Gottlieb said Monday on "The Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000.

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/colleges/post/_/id/190/gottlieb-uteps-barbee-likely-depaul-coach

 

[sys]

depaul is a bad job to start with.  heard somewhere that they were looking for a cheap hire and wanted to retain some of the current staff too.

[WillieWatanabe]

Welp...that's number 1 on the counter of teams Frank turned down...