Frank D Big 12 Record! (Tech adv stats)*updated with official stats

[steve dave]

lol at abefroman

[jmlynch1]

Is Tech the new Baylor sans Sys hate? (For all sports)

[kso_FAN]

His constant lack of production, fouls, and freshman mistakes.

Yeah, Jamar has clearly been terrible in every game and had no positive impact on this team.

[kso_FAN]

With the great defense in the past two games, K-State has gone from #9 in league games in defensive efficiency to #3. Something tells me the impressive defensive numbers will continue against OU on Saturday.

[kougar24]

What was our TOP in this game? Felt like our low scoring was partially due to running so much clock.

[CNS]

lol at abefroman

Yes. Way too obvs

[MakeItRain]

His constant lack of production, fouls, and freshman mistakes.

constant?  No, denied.  Jamar is the face of inconsistency, he was very good against Oklahoma State.  He's still #1 in the conference in FTr and #5 in the country.

[steve dave]

Jamar can foul out entire front lines of other teams. 

[MakeItRain]

Jamar can foul out entire front lines of other teams. 

I really hope JO and Upshaw will be able to draw fouls next year.  Shooting FTs is a large part of what we do and Jamar has been amazing at doing it the last 3 seasons.  Big Gip has been pretty adept at drawing a lot of fouls.  I have little confidence that our guards will be able to help with making up the FT void that Jamar will leave.

[jmlynch1]

Luke Adams biggest disability is being ugly

[kougar24]

Jamar can foul out entire front lines of other teams. 

I really hope JO and Upshaw will be able to draw fouls next year.  Shooting FTs is a large part of what we do and Jamar has been amazing at doing it the last 3 seasons.  Big Gip has been pretty adept at drawing a lot of fouls.  I have little confidence that our guards will be able to help with making up the FT void that Jamar will leave.

I bet Angel draws a ton of fouls next year and beyond.

[Powercat Posse]

Since the Bama game, here are Jamar's numbers =
10.5 pts/g
6.8 reb/g ( 3.1 off reb)
6.5 FTAs p/g
74% FT shooting

The one stat we all would like to see improve is his FG%.   That is about 40% over that stretch and 42.5% for the season.

But i will take that production pts and rebound wise.   He is getting others in foul trouble and hitting a nice % of FTs.    He plays pretty good defense.   

He had an AWFUL game.   Thankful we did not need him in that game since it was against the worst team in the conference

[sys]

I bet Angel draws a ton of fouls next year and beyond.

kougar, you are right.

[michigancat]

I bet Angel draws a ton of fouls next year and beyond.

kougar, you are right.

He already draws a ton of fouls. I don't feel like looking it up, but his ftr is close to Pullen last year.

[mcmwcat]

I bet Angel draws a ton of fouls next year and beyond.

kougar, you are right.

He already draws a ton of fouls. I don't feel like looking it up, but his ftr is close to Pullen last year.

51.9 4th on the team this year.  Pullen was 49.1 last year

[mcmwcat]

5.6 fouls drawn per 40. 151st in the country

[MakeItRain]

Pullen was 49.1 last year

[mcmwcat]

Pullen was 49.1 last year

if Angel maintains his FTR this year he will have had a better FTR than Pullen ever had

Pullen FTR
49/51/31/34 - SR/JR/SO/FR

[kso_FAN]

Pullen was 49.1 last year

if Angel maintains his FTR this year he will have had a better FTR than Pullen ever had

Pullen FTR
49/51/31/34 - SR/JR/SO/FR

IMHO, its more difficult for a guard to maintain a high FTR, especially a high volume shooting guard like Pullen. I think this discussion is more valid if you look at fouls drawn per 40 over FTR.

[mcmwcat]

Pullen was 49.1 last year

if Angel maintains his FTR this year he will have had a better FTR than Pullen ever had

Pullen FTR
49/51/31/34 - SR/JR/SO/FR

IMHO, its more difficult for a guard to maintain a high FTR, especially a high volume shooting guard like Pullen. I think this discussion is more valid if you look at fouls drawn per 40 over FTR.

Pullen FD/40
SR 6.9
JR 6.5
SO 4.3
FR 4.2

Angel at 5.6 now

[MakeItRain]

Pullen was 49.1 last year

if Angel maintains his FTR this year he will have had a better FTR than Pullen ever had

Pullen FTR
49/51/31/34 - SR/JR/SO/FR

IMHO, its more difficult for a guard to maintain a high FTR, especially a high volume shooting guard like Pullen. I think this discussion is more valid if you look at fouls drawn per 40 over FTR.

Pullen FD/40
SR 6.9
JR 6.5
SO 4.3
FR 4.2

Angel at 5.6 now

That's amazing.  I love nothing more than guards who get to the line.  My initial concern about his ability to get to the line was born out of a concern from his lack of a quick burst/first step.  Obviously this doesn't mean a damn thing to ar-t.

[kougar24]

I bet Angel draws a ton of fouls next year and beyond.

kougar, you are right.

He already draws a ton of fouls. I don't feel like looking it up, but his ftr is close to Pullen last year.

Yes, he does. I said "next year and beyond" in reference to this:

I have little confidence that our guards will be able to help with making up the FT void that Jamar will leave.

[michigancat]

I bet Angel draws a ton of fouls next year and beyond.

kougar, you are right.

He already draws a ton of fouls. I don't feel like looking it up, but his ftr is close to Pullen last year.

Yes, he does. I said "next year and beyond" in reference to this:

I have little confidence that our guards will be able to help with making up the FT void that Jamar will leave.

Well, he probably won't be able to do that. Jamar is ridiculous at drawing fouls. But I imagine Gip, Diaz, and JO will pick up the void somewhat.

[kougar24]

I bet Angel draws a ton of fouls next year and beyond.

kougar, you are right.

He already draws a ton of fouls. I don't feel like looking it up, but his ftr is close to Pullen last year.

Yes, he does. I said "next year and beyond" in reference to this:

I have little confidence that our guards will be able to help with making up the FT void that Jamar will leave.

Well, he probably won't be able to do that. Jamar is ridiculous at drawing fouls. But I imagine Gip, Diaz, and JO will pick up the void somewhat.

"...our guards will be able to help with making up the FT void that Jamar will leave."