Author Topic: Frank D Big 12 Record! (Tech adv stats)*updated with official stats (Read 6333 times)

kso_FAN · « **on:** January 25, 2012, 10:18:32 PM »

1st   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   33   0.95   43.8%   21.5%   40.0%   15.6%
Opp   33   0.61   47.1%   43.0%   9.1%   47.1%

2nd   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   36   1.07   56.8%   28.1%   45.5%   81.8%
Opp   36   0.76   37.0%   30.9%   33.3%   78.3%

Total   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   69   1.01   49.1%   24.8%   41.9%   42.6%
Opp   69   0.68   41.3%   36.4%   24.1%   65.0%

About as modest of a 20 point win that I can remember. Tolbert is a good player, but Tech is really bad. Forcing a turnover 2 out of every 5 possessions in the first half was ridiculous.

Spradling continues to miss shots and we got bad-Jamar. Everyone else was pretty good.

*Official stats (as opposed to ESPN box scores) often have additional rebounds, usually "team rebounds" which happend when a ball goes out of bounds and no individual gets credit for the rebound. ESPN stats also often miss a TO or even a shot, especially right after a game ends.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #1 on:** January 25, 2012, 10:23:53 PM »

The .69 points per possession allowed by K-State's defense is the best defensive efficiency ever under Frank against a Big 12 team.

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #2 on:** January 25, 2012, 10:25:50 PM »

weird game to watch. Even though Tech is horrible, the defense was nice to see.

CHONGS · « **Reply #3 on:** January 25, 2012, 10:38:28 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 25, 2012, 10:18:32 PM

1st   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   35   0.90   43.8%   20.2%   29.4%   15.6%
Opp   35   0.58   47.1%   40.5%   0.0%   47.1%

2nd   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   33   1.15   59.5%   24.2%   45.5%   85.7%
Opp   33   0.82   38.6%   33.3%   41.2%   81.8%

Total   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   68   1.01   50.0%   22.0%   35.7%   43.4%
Opp   68   0.69   42.3%   36.7%   28.0%   66.7%

About as modest of a 20 point win that I can remember. Tolbert is a good player, but Tech is really bad. Forcing a turnover 2 out of every 5 possessions in the first half was ridiculous.

Spradling continues to miss shots and we got bad-Jamar. Everyone else was pretty good.

holy crap

Powercat Posse · « **Reply #4 on:** January 25, 2012, 10:44:53 PM »

Very impressive defense back to back road games. Combined 136 poss and only gave up 105 pts (.77 pts per poss).

Also, only allowed 13 offensive rebounds in those 2 games too.

Very JYC worthy

kougar24 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 25, 2012, 10:48:50 PM »

These are my favorite games. Boring as hell because they are SUPPOSED to be boring as hell. I like not having to sit through an opponent's run, or bad things snowballing on us on one end or the other.

Ho-hum, workmanlike, etc. Love it.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #6 on:** January 25, 2012, 11:35:03 PM »

Lsoc says:

SdK · « **Reply #7 on:** January 26, 2012, 12:14:20 AM »

I've never seen a game where only 4 people score for a team.

I want to make a joke about dropping a deaf bomb, but can't come up with a good one.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #8 on:** January 26, 2012, 05:18:57 AM »

Good to say Tay, Diaz and Vic step up when shooting the basketball.

felix rex · « **Reply #9 on:** January 26, 2012, 06:56:14 AM »

Very weird game. We closed out a 20-pt road win by going scoreless from the field for the final 5 minutes.

kitten_mittons · « **Reply #10 on:** January 26, 2012, 07:02:04 AM »

Yeah, we won by 20 and played like crap on offense.

wabash909 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 26, 2012, 07:19:38 AM »

Quote from: kitten_mittons on January 26, 2012, 07:02:04 AM

Yeah, we won by 20 and played like crap on offense.

They call that a Dobercatin'!

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #12 on:** January 26, 2012, 07:48:16 AM »

It's Frankball . . . nobody see's any kind of problem when Frankball is a train wreck on the offensive end of the floor, which happens early and often. Just keep hurling the ball at the rim and then go and get a rebound . . . in the case of JaSam get a rebound and then miss a series of 2 footers.

mcmwcat · « **Reply #13 on:** January 26, 2012, 07:58:33 AM »

kenpom calculated last nights def eff @ 67.5

kitten_mittons · « **Reply #14 on:** January 26, 2012, 08:00:49 AM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on January 26, 2012, 07:48:16 AM

It's Frankball . . . nobody see's any kind of problem when Frankball is a train wreck on the offensive end of the floor, which happens early and often. Just keep hurling the ball at the rim and then go and get a rebound . . . in the case of JaSam get a rebound and then miss a series of 2 footers.

I'm fine with that offense. Just the stupid turnovers and still a blowout victory is strange to see.

wabash909 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 26, 2012, 08:04:51 AM »

I'll take a 20 point victory on the road in this league any way I can get it.

mcmwcat · « **Reply #16 on:** January 26, 2012, 08:08:14 AM »

take out spradling/saumuels 0-8 FG and kstate shot 57% from the field 26-46

kso_FAN · « **Reply #17 on:** January 26, 2012, 08:42:24 AM »

0.68 PPP is just a ridiculous defensive efficiency.

The shooting wasn't great, but a PPP of 1.01 on the road, especially when you put forth that kind of defensive effort, is pretty good. I'm not saying we played great basketball, but the numbers overall are solid. We missed shots and had ugly moments, but its hardly fair to call the offense a trainwreck.

kenpom's efficiency numbers have adjustments for various things compared to the raw formulas I use.

bigwillie20 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 26, 2012, 08:53:51 AM »

STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Jamar Samuels, F 14 0-3 0-1 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 2 5 0

kso_FAN · « **Reply #19 on:** January 26, 2012, 08:56:09 AM »

Jamar had a bad game, but overall he's been pretty good in Big 12 play. I'll give him a bad game now and then, that's who he is. He'll be fine.

mocat · « **Reply #20 on:** January 26, 2012, 09:39:31 AM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 26, 2012, 08:56:09 AM

Jamar had a bad game, but overall he's been pretty good in Big 12 play. I'll give him a bad game now and then, that's who he is. He'll be fine.

I agree. That has to be his worst game ever, right? I mean, 14 min, 0-3 from the field, 0 points, 0 rebounds, 2 TO, 5 fouls.

Senior. Against the worst team in the conference.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #21 on:** January 26, 2012, 09:46:19 AM »

Quote from: mocat on January 26, 2012, 09:39:31 AM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 26, 2012, 08:56:09 AM
Jamar had a bad game, but overall he's been pretty good in Big 12 play. I'll give him a bad game now and then, that's who he is. He'll be fine.

I agree. That has to be his worst game ever, right? I mean, 14 min, 0-3 from the field, 0 points, 0 rebounds, 2 TO, 5 fouls.

Senior. Against the worst team in the conference.

Its an excuse, but this was a classic "Jamar misses his first few shots, gets in foul trouble, and struggles all night" game. I was hoping he would work his way out of those, but he hasn't. And yeah, this was one of his worst games in his career (probably his worst since the Butler game) as far as that goes, but I still think he'll be fine.

AbeFroman · « **Reply #22 on:** January 26, 2012, 09:51:34 AM »

Jamar is terrible and has no effect on the success or failure of this team

kso_FAN · « **Reply #23 on:** January 26, 2012, 09:52:03 AM »

Quote from: AbeFroman on January 26, 2012, 09:51:34 AM

Jamar is terrible and has no effect on the success or failure of this team

Based on...?

AbeFroman · « **Reply #24 on:** January 26, 2012, 09:55:25 AM »

His constant lack of production, fouls, and freshman mistakes.