Big 12 Effeciency and Four Factors 3-5-12 (regular season adv stats)

[WillieWatanabe]

slightly above avg 

Until we start shooting the ball, we will struggle. TOs hurt, but in general we cause a lot too. Pretty standard Frank basketbrawl. Killing it in OR%, but that's not enough to win if you don't hit some shots.

Which is why sprads sucking is so bad.

Yeah.  we need two new guards quick.  WTF is up with Shane getting so much bench?

The rules of Frankhouse are
1. You do not talk about Frankhouse.
2. You DO NOT talk about Frankhouse.
3. If someone says 'stop', goes limp, or taps out, the Franking is over.
4. Only Frank knows the extent of each Franking.
5. Frank will decide when each Franking is over.
6. The Frankings are bare knuckle. No shirt, no shoes, no weapons.
7. Frankings will go on as long as they have to.
8. If this is your first time at Frankhouse, you have to be Franked.

Fantastic(sarcastically towards the franking and sincerely towards the post)

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yeah, that was awesome.

[detch23]

slightly above avg 

Until we start shooting the ball, we will struggle. TOs hurt, but in general we cause a lot too. Pretty standard Frank basketbrawl. Killing it in OR%, but that's not enough to win if you don't hit some shots.

Which is why sprads sucking is so bad.

Yeah.  we need two new guards quick.  WTF is up with Shane getting so much bench?

The rules of Frankhouse are
1. You do not talk about Frankhouse.
2. You DO NOT talk about Frankhouse.
3. If someone says 'stop', goes limp, or taps out, the Franking is over.
4. Only Frank knows the extent of each Franking.
5. Frank will decide when each Franking is over.
6. The Frankings are bare knuckle. No shirt, no shoes, no weapons.
7. Frankings will go on as long as they have to.
8. If this is your first time at Frankhouse, you have to be Franked.

Fantastic(sarcastically towards the franking and sincerely towards the post)

Sent from my MB611 using Tapatalk

yeah, that was awesome.

[Skipper44]

slightly above avg  

Until we start shooting the ball, we will struggle. TOs hurt, but in general we cause a lot too. Pretty standard Frank basketbrawl. Killing it in OR%, but that's not enough to win if you don't hit some shots.

Which is why sprads sucking is so bad.

Yeah.  we need two new guards quick.  WTF is up with Shane getting so much bench?

The rules of Frankhouse are
1. You do not talk about Frankhouse.
2. You DO NOT talk about Frankhouse.
3. If someone says 'stop', goes limp, or taps out, the Franking is over.
4. Only Frank knows the extent of each Franking.
5. Frank will decide when each Franking is over.
6. The Frankings are bare knuckle. No shirt, no shoes, no weapons.
7. Frankings will go on as long as they have to.
8. If this is your first time at Frankhouse, you have to be Franked.

Frankhouse as the next name for this board?

[Underdog Wildcat]

_Fan pretty much nailed "Franking" but in regard to Shane, I think it might go a little deeper than that. I think it's fairly clear that his most effective and natural position at this level is the 3, but with McGruder's recent stellar play and him needing to be on the floor in order for us to have any hope for success, it's going to be tough to get minutes there.

What about the 2 where he started last year and saw decent minutes? Well, if we had a solid lead PG that we knew was going to give us 30+ quality minutes every night like we had with Pullen, that would probably be able to offset Shane's lack of being a major scoring threat and not having a high-level ball handling skills. But we don't.

We tried to play him at the 1 bringing the ball up the floor down in Norman, and we all saw how that turned out.

It's a shame because I do think he is quality player at this level, capable of contributing more than he is right now, just haven't been able to nail down his niche for this team.

[mcmwcat]

there were stretches Saturday when we were only playing 1 guard with 2 'wings': Vic and Rod.  no reason with the poor play out of the guards that Southwell should see more time at the 2.  heck, he was playing the point at OU 2 weeks ago.

[bigwillie20]

#teamwhateverittakestogetshanemoreminutes.  We have nothing to lose at this point, get his ass on the court Frank 

[slimz]

_Fan pretty much nailed "Franking" but in regard to Shane, I think it might go a little deeper than that. I think it's fairly clear that his most effective and natural position at this level is the 3, but with McGruder's recent stellar play and him needing to be on the floor in order for us to have any hope for success, it's going to be tough to get minutes there.

What about the 2 where he started last year and saw decent minutes? Well, if we had a solid lead PG that we knew was going to give us 30+ quality minutes every night like we had with Pullen, that would probably be able to offset Shane's lack of being a major scoring threat and not having a high-level ball handling skills. But we don't.

We tried to play him at the 1 bringing the ball up the floor down in Norman, and we all saw how that turned out.

It's a shame because I do think he is quality player at this level, capable of contributing more than he is right now, just haven't been able to nail down his niche for this team.

He can't nail down a niche because he's a below-average ball handler, which limits the effectiveness of his above-average passing and decent mid-range jumper. He can dribble well enough to make his patented curl-into-the-lane jumper play, but he gets exposed outside the arc or in transition. Because he lacks ability and confidence dribbling outside the arc, it limits his ability to get himself into better position to use his passing ability. He dribbles once or twice and then picks it up before he fumbles it, and passes it along the wing. All this does is let the defense get reset. He would be better off just whipping the ball around when he's on the perimeter.

He would be a nice option at the 4 with a few more inches. He can get by at the 3, as we've seen, but Rodney limits his time there. Once you get him to the 2 or the 1 you start getting negative returns because of all the time they spend outside the arc, where his effectiveness is limited. At best, the offense bogs down. At worst, he turns it over.

[Underdog Wildcat]

With Vic getting time at the 3 over Shane, well, THAT is clearly franking right there. I mean I guess we beat Texas pulling that number, but is that really going to hold up long term?

I think it goes back to that Southwell, Spradling, Irving, and hell maybe even Jones can be very good complimentary players, but I don't know if I see any of them being a "lead guard" type who you can count to consistently do a lot scoring and creating for your team.

I think Rodriguez has the potential to get there, but it might be asking too much to ask him to assume that role this year. We'll see how it plays out the rest of this season and beyond.

[kougar24]

Killing it in OR%, but that's not enough to win if you don't hit some shots.

You mean, getting 5 offensive rebounds without coming away with a single point* isn't enough to get it done?


* actually happened:

10:18       42-44   Jamar Samuels Offensive Rebound.
10:18       42-44   Jamar Samuels missed Jumper.
10:18       42-44   Jamar Samuels Offensive Rebound.
10:18       42-44   Jamar Samuels missed Jumper.
10:18       42-44   Adrian Diaz Offensive Rebound.
10:18       42-44   Adrian Diaz Turnover.
9:43       42-44   Rodney McGruder missed Three Point Jumper.
9:38       42-44   Adrian Diaz Offensive Rebound.
9:36       42-44   Adrian Diaz missed Jumper.
9:36       42-44   Kansas State Offensive Rebound.
9:20       42-44   Martavious Irving Turnover.

[felix rex]

Killing it in OR%, but that's not enough to win if you don't hit some shots.

You mean, getting 5 offensive rebounds without coming away with a single point* isn't enough to get it done?


* actually happened:

10:18       42-44   Jamar Samuels Offensive Rebound.
10:18       42-44   Jamar Samuels missed Jumper.
10:18       42-44   Jamar Samuels Offensive Rebound.
10:18       42-44   Jamar Samuels missed Jumper.
10:18       42-44   Adrian Diaz Offensive Rebound.
10:18       42-44   Adrian Diaz Turnover.
9:43       42-44.

I was so mad during this sequence that I cursed at rusty.

[bigwillie20]

Killing it in OR%, but that's not enough to win if you don't hit some shots.

You mean, getting 5 offensive rebounds without coming away with a single point* isn't enough to get it done?


* actually happened:

10:18       42-44   Jamar Samuels Offensive Rebound.
10:18       42-44   Jamar Samuels missed Jumper.
10:18       42-44   Jamar Samuels Offensive Rebound.
10:18       42-44   Jamar Samuels missed Jumper.

Wonder if this is just programmed into their software now where missed jumper is automatically entered whenever he gets an offensive rebound?

[kougar24]

Killing it in OR%, but that's not enough to win if you don't hit some shots.

You mean, getting 5 offensive rebounds without coming away with a single point* isn't enough to get it done?


* actually happened:

10:18       42-44   Jamar Samuels Offensive Rebound.
10:18       42-44   Jamar Samuels missed Jumper.
10:18       42-44   Jamar Samuels Offensive Rebound.
10:18       42-44   Jamar Samuels missed Jumper.

Wonder if this is just programmed into their software now where missed jumper is automatically entered whenever he gets an offensive rebound?

LOL.

[sys]

play southie at the 4, problem solved.

[Underdog Wildcat]

play southie at the 4, problem solved.

would take 

[kso_FAN]

[Cartierfor3]

Looks like we're letting other teams JYC us with TO% and FTR.  Really only OR% is an advantage. 

[kso_FAN]

Looks like we're letting other teams JYC us with TO% and FTR.  Really only OR% is an advantage. 

TO% is really the one we need to cut down. Opponents having a high FTR against us hasn't been something that's hurt us a lot in the past. Most important though we need to hit shots. At least get our OFF eFG% even with DEF.

[catzacker]

Looks like we're letting other teams JYC us with TO% and FTR.  Really only OR% is an advantage. 

TO% is really the one we need to cut down. Opponents having a high FTR against us hasn't been something that's hurt us a lot in the past. Most important though we need to hit shots. At least get our OFF eFG% even with DEF.

yep.  TO% and eFG.  I would imagine that our TO% and eFG in the last 5 minutes of ball games is horrendous (even compared to the rest of the field).  Our FTR is not where it needs to be because we don’t have a player (or rather the player we do have is inconsistent) that can get the defense out of position to allow for the chaos/foul that occurs on a missed shot or an on ball foul.

[kso_FAN]

Looks like we're letting other teams JYC us with TO% and FTR.  Really only OR% is an advantage. 

TO% is really the one we need to cut down. Opponents having a high FTR against us hasn't been something that's hurt us a lot in the past. Most important though we need to hit shots. At least get our OFF eFG% even with DEF.

yep.  TO% and eFG.  I would imagine that our TO% and eFG in the last 5 minutes of ball games is horrendous (even compared to the rest of the field).  Our FTR is not where it needs to be because we don’t have a player (or rather the player we do have is inconsistent) that can get the defense out of position to allow for the chaos/foul that occurs on a missed shot or an on ball foul.

Yeah, the games we've lost, we've been really bad at TO% and eFG% in key situations/stretches.

And its hard to say our FTR isn't where it should be because its still really good. Its not quite as good as it was the last two years in conference play (44.1 in 10-11 and an amazing 51.1 in 09-10), but 42% is still really good.

[kso_FAN]

Looking back, the defense we played against Missouri was ridiculous considering they have the best efficiency offense in the country at 1.2 PPP. We held them to .88 PPP and no other team has held them under 1.03.

[nicname]

Looking back, the defense we played against Missouri was ridiculous considering they have the best efficiency offense in the country at 1.2 PPP. We held them to .88 PPP and no other team has held them under 1.03.

I think we can do it again.  I'm pretty confident about our trip to Columbia.  We match-up really well vs. MU.  Not, hold them to .88, just beat them.

[felix rex]

We need more signs at games referencing adv stats.

[kougar24]

We need more signs at games referencing adv stats.

YOU DOWN WIT'
(.88) PPP?

[gokatgo]

We need more signs at games referencing adv stats.

YOU DOWN WIT'
(.88) PPP?

YEAH YOU KNOW ME

[kso_FAN]

If Coach Z would discover advanced stats he'd have a lot easier time at his breakdowns: http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205356464&DB_OEM_ID=10410