So far this year . . .

[kitten_mittons]

this is a rebuilding year? 

We lost, like, the best scorer in K-State history. And a pretty darn good big.

We have 1 senior this year. We often start 2 freshman and a sophomore.

What would you call it?

A normal roster for a Frank Martin team.

[pissclams]

this is a rebuilding year? 

We lost, like, the best scorer in K-State history. And a pretty darn good big.

We have 1 senior this year. We often start 2 freshman and a sophomore.

What would you call it?

A normal roster for a Frank Martin team.

this.

[sys]

it's a reloading year.

[Kat Kid]

this is a rebuilding year? 

We lost, like, the best scorer in K-State history. And a pretty darn good big.

We have 1 senior this year. We often start 2 freshman and a sophomore.

What would you call it?

A normal roster for a Frank Martin team.

Nice.

[kso_FAN]

this is a rebuilding year? 

We lost, like, the best scorer in K-State history. And a pretty darn good big.

We have 1 senior this year. We often start 2 freshman and a sophomore.

What would you call it?

A normal roster for a Frank Martin team.

Yes, Frank Martin rosters have regular attrition.

But Frank Martin rosters haven't regularly lost 1st Team All Big 12 players and POY candidates every year.

That's why I'd equate this year to 08-09 season; maybe "rebuilding" is too strong, but its at least a year where there were plenty of question marks going into the season.

[pissclams]

*Pro TiP* -to rebuild, you have to have been built

[kougar24]

*Pro TiP* -to rebuild, you have to have been built

Last year's team still = built, with regard to K-State hoops.

[kso_FAN]

*Pro TiP* -to rebuild, you have to have been built

Last year's team still = built, with regard to K-State hoops.

Yeah, it all depends on what you mean by "built". Or what program you are comparing ours to as "built".

[Saulbadguy]

it's a reloading year.

[kstater]

I would do freaking cartwheels if we're a 5-seed in a rebuilding year.

yeah, it is really amazing that we are in pretty good position to pull this off.   I mean, a 5 seed could get us Omaha and only has to beat one decent team to get to the sweet 16 

Also, @OU is not a bad loss - if they hold on against ATM on sat they would clearly be in the field.  B12 is going to get 5 for sure and 6 is not impossible

I don't think the Cats have any shot at Omaha.  That's going to KU and MU.

[felix rex]

I am looking forward to the meltdowns after MU/BU/KU/mysloss part 2

Will it be more subdued if we're already a lock for the dance, though? I don't think it'll match part 1 unless we go 0-3 maybe.

I say I'll be fine with 1-2, but deep down I know I'll totally lose my crap.

[the KHAN!]

We've been rebuilding since the late 80's.

[8manpick]

I would do freaking cartwheels if we're a 5-seed in a rebuilding year.

yeah, it is really amazing that we are in pretty good position to pull this off.   I mean, a 5 seed could get us Omaha and only has to beat one decent team to get to the sweet 16 

Also, @OU is not a bad loss - if they hold on against ATM on sat they would clearly be in the field.  B12 is going to get 5 for sure and 6 is not impossible

I don't think the Cats have any shot at Omaha.  That's going to KU and MU.

Probably true.  What is the next closest regional?

[steve dave]

Got Omaha in 2008 somehow

[Skipper44]

I would do freaking cartwheels if we're a 5-seed in a rebuilding year.

yeah, it is really amazing that we are in pretty good position to pull this off.   I mean, a 5 seed could get us Omaha and only has to beat one decent team to get to the sweet 16 

Also, @OU is not a bad loss - if they hold on against ATM on sat they would clearly be in the field.  B12 is going to get 5 for sure and 6 is not impossible

I don't think the Cats have any shot at Omaha.  That's going to KU and MU.

Send the traitors where they belong, SEC country in Nashville

[pissclams]

MU and KU will have dibs on Bugaha this season just fwiw.

[Stevesie60]

You retards, we are in the top 25 after a stretch of 3 teams who are currently in the top 6. We'll also have 3 weeks at the end of conference play with a lot of winnable games so that if we go 1-2 in that stretch the second time, we'll have plenty of time to get back into the top 25. We'll be in the tournament with ease.

[bigwillie20]

You retards, we are in the top 25 after a stretch of 3 teams who are currently in the top 6. We'll also have 3 weeks at the end of conference play with a lot of winnable games so that if we go 1-2 in that stretch the second time, we'll have plenty of time to get back into the top 25. We'll be in the tournament with ease.

1 bad landing on a layup from Rodney changes all that though

[Stevesie60]

You retards, we are in the top 25 after a stretch of 3 teams who are currently in the top 6. We'll also have 3 weeks at the end of conference play with a lot of winnable games so that if we go 1-2 in that stretch the second time, we'll have plenty of time to get back into the top 25. We'll be in the tournament with ease.

1 bad landing on a layup from Rodney changes all that though

A lot of teams are in that position with a player on their team.

[bigwillie20]

You retards, we are in the top 25 after a stretch of 3 teams who are currently in the top 6. We'll also have 3 weeks at the end of conference play with a lot of winnable games so that if we go 1-2 in that stretch the second time, we'll have plenty of time to get back into the top 25. We'll be in the tournament with ease.

1 bad landing on a layup from Rodney changes all that though

A lot of teams are in that position with a player on their team.

I realize that.  I'm just saying if he's out of the game for whatever reason we look like complete crap pretty often and like to go 5 minute stretches with 0 points.

[WillieWatanabe]

You retards, we are in the top 25 after a stretch of 3 teams who are currently in the top 6. We'll also have 3 weeks at the end of conference play with a lot of winnable games so that if we go 1-2 in that stretch the second time, we'll have plenty of time to get back into the top 25. We'll be in the tournament with ease.

Big 12 (8): As if perennial kingpin Kansas needed the assist, it has played the 10th-toughest schedule out of 10. The Jayhawks (7-0) have played five at home and two on the road, visiting relative lightweights Oklahoma and Texas Tech. They received another assist Monday night, when Texas A&M’s Khris Middleton was injured before the game and guard Dash Harris was injured during it.

Toughest Big 12 schedule to date: Kansas State, which is 3-3 and in fifth place. The Wildcats still have six games left against the four schools considered the weakest in the league (Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Oklahoma State and Oklahoma).

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=pf-forde_minutes_where_have_great_teams_gone_012412

[OK_Cat]

people underestimate the "it" factor that frank still has with the media.  as long as he produces a mediocre or better team, he's in the ncaa.  he's interesting to watch and is quality entertainment.   

[J]

this is a rebuilding year? 

We lost, like, the best scorer in K-State history. And a pretty darn good big.

We have 1 senior this year. We often start 2 freshman and a sophomore.

What would you call it?

A normal roster for a Frank Martin team.

Yes, Frank Martin rosters have regular attrition.

But Frank Martin rosters haven't regularly lost 1st Team All Big 12 players and POY candidates every year.

That's why I'd equate this year to 08-09 season; maybe "rebuilding" is too strong, but its at least a year where there were plenty of question marks going into the season.

Squawkclams (and others) = BUTT TOLD

[Cire]

I think that by the end of the season one of ku/baylor/mizzou turns out to be a complete fraud.

[Stevesie60]

I think that by the end of the season one of ku/baylor/mizzou turns out to be a complete fraud.

It won't be KU. They're ranked pretty accurately at #5.