unbelievable

[sys]

Likewise on defense, Tay is our best on ball defender and its not close.   JO disrupts a ton of shoots inside of 8 feet.

i don't know if he's kstate's best on ball defender (i don't think he is, but really, none of our perimeter defenders are anything special), but it is certainly close.  he does not offer a substantial upgrade over the other guards.

agree on dob.

[sys]

Question: who is our best on-ball perimeter defender?

southwell
ar-t
irving
spradler
mcgruder

jones

i'd listen to arguments on flipping mcgruder and spradler.  or ar-t and irving.

[MakeItRain]

You would kougs, you would

You're right. Going zone out of timeouts--usually around the 12-min mark in the 2nd--has totally caught our opponents off-guard and disrupted their offense.

Chingon

The point is in the two, yes only two cases you are whining about our man-to-man defense was also horrible

[kougar24]

Question: who is our best on-ball perimeter defender?

southwell

[MakeItRain]

Question: who is our best on-ball perimeter defender?

Rodney IMO

[kougar24]

Question: who is our best on-ball perimeter defender?

Rodney IMO

Definitely the most versatile. I'd listen to an argument for him as best overall.

[sys]

Question: who is our best on-ball perimeter defender?

southwell

no, he is.  obviously he can't guard a 5'10" pg, but he does a better job on 3s than our 1s do on 1s.

[CHONGS]

Question: who is our best on-ball perimeter defender?

southwell

no, he is.  obviously he can't guard a 5'10" pg, but he does a better job on 3s than our 1s do on 1s.

Well he doesn't make as many steals which is the only way retards like koug evaluate defense.

[Powercat Posse]

I should not have said it wasn't close.   But i do think Tay is our best on ball defender.      His footwork is pretty solid and i think he does a pretty good job getting thru screnes.     There are times when he is off his game and looks like an average defender.     But most of the time i like what he brings for us on that end

[sonofdaxjones]

Mediocrity on the recruiting trail means mediocrity on the court.

Mediocre recruiting, head games, crappy coaching; it's the perfect storm for a strong NIT run.

[sys]

I do think Tay is our best on ball defender.      His footwork is pretty solid and i think he does a pretty good job getting thru screnes.

you're right, he does a great job on screens.

[kougar24]

Question: who is our best on-ball perimeter defender?

southwell

no, he is.  obviously he can't guard a 5'10" pg, but he does a better job on 3s than our 1s do on 1s.

Well he doesn't make as many steals which is the only way retards like koug evaluate defense.

Hey Chingon: go eff yourself.

[CHONGS]

Calm down, I didn't say you, I said like you.

[kougar24]

Calm down, I didn't say you, I said like you.

Hey Chingon: go eff yourself.

[Skipper44]

angel has the best lateral quickness of our combos (not saying a whole lot)

[sys]

angel has the best lateral quickness of our combos (not saying a whole lot)

yes, but i wouldn't minimize ar-t's lateral quickness.  he has fantastic feet/body control/balance.

[Skipper44]

angel has the best lateral quickness of our combos (not saying a whole lot)

yes, but i wouldn't minimize ar-t's lateral quickness.  he has fantastic feet/body control/balance.

if he could of stayed in front of Grooms today that may of been his biggest contribution

[Stupid Fitz]

Knew we would miss Jake (obviously), but didn't realize we would miss his D this much. Getting killed by opposing pg's.

[ednksu]

Knew we would miss Jake (obviously), but didn't realize we would miss his D this much. Getting killed by opposing pg's.

I didn't think we would have this much trouble staying in front of any guard. 

Our over pursuit on defense is killing us right now.  No one is staying at home or providing reasonable help D.  All or nothing.

[wabash909]

Spradsendruber getting abused on dribble drive after dribble drive is difficult to watch.

[Skipper44]

Spradsendruber getting abused on dribble drive after dribble drive is difficult to watch.

lol

is this new, does wabash get credit for it?

[wabash909]

Spradsendruber getting abused on dribble drive after dribble drive is difficult to watch.

lol

is this new, does wabash get credit for it?

Limestone gets the assist.  McFaddin'sPak.

[sonofdaxjones]

Nothing going on out there that 2 slow 6-10 plus guys can't fix.

[wabash909]

Nothing more threes from Sprads can't fix.

And more minutes for Nino and Vic.

[sonofdaxjones]

I suppose you're right . . . but still would have preferred that another McORebs type player was squarely in the pipeline.