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« on: January 12, 2012, 10:56:47 AM »
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@DaveSittler reports #Sooners sources confirm Brent Venables has been offered DC job at #WVU. Mike coming in changes everything, I guess.

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Re: venzy
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2012, 10:57:45 AM »
FYBS

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Re: venzy
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2012, 11:03:49 AM »
GOD DAMMIT!

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Re: venzy
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2012, 11:08:45 AM »
Yeah, the cosh support is bullshit.

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Re: venzy
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2012, 11:10:57 AM »
I have dreamed a dream and now that dream has gone from me.

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Re: venzy
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2012, 11:15:30 AM »
Would he ever take that job?  Seems he would stick it out at OU and take a low level HC job.

This would be less than lateral, he would play against OU, he would be moving 1000 miles from his recruiting base. 

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Re: venzy
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2012, 11:16:43 AM »
Would he ever take that job?  Seems he would stick it out at OU and take a low level HC job.

This would be less than lateral, he would play against OU, he would be moving 1000 miles from his recruiting base. 

Maybe he feels there's more opportunity if he gets out from under Stoops' shadow?

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Re: venzy
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2012, 11:17:51 AM »
Would he ever take that job?  Seems he would stick it out at OU and take a low level HC job.

This would be less than lateral, he would play against OU, he would be moving 1000 miles from his recruiting base. 

Maybe he feels there's more opportunity if he gets out from under Stoops' shadow?

Where is the move "up" from DC at WV.  Maybe the Syracuse DC job will open someday if he is patient.

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Re: venzy
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2012, 11:18:23 AM »
Would he ever take that job?  Seems he would stick it out at OU and take a low level HC job.

This would be less than lateral, he would play against OU, he would be moving 1000 miles from his recruiting base.  

Mikey being back in town changes things.

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Re: venzy
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2012, 11:19:23 AM »
Would he ever take that job?  Seems he would stick it out at OU and take a low level HC job.

This would be less than lateral, he would play against OU, he would be moving 1000 miles from his recruiting base. 

Maybe he feels there's more opportunity if he gets out from under Stoops' shadow?

Yeah, the writing couldn't be more on the wall.  Not only is he never gonna get crap while stoops is there, but they just went and hired a second stoops that will be in charge of what was Venzy's gig.

Stoops me once, shame on you.  Stoops me twice, I gotta get the eff out of Oklahoma.

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Re: venzy
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2012, 11:20:46 AM »
Venables sucks.  He's a bad d coordinator.  Better than what we have, but definitely not the deity this board treats him like.


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Re: venzy
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2012, 11:20:51 AM »
Would he ever take that job?  Seems he would stick it out at OU and take a low level HC job.

This would be less than lateral, he would play against OU, he would be moving 1000 miles from his recruiting base.  

Mikey being back in town changes things.

It's kind of a symbolic slap in the face to Venzy because he knows Mike is going to be the real DC.  It's a demotion, and everyone knows it.

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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2012, 11:24:51 AM »
Venables sucks.  He's a bad d coordinator.  Better than what we have, but definitely not the deity this board treats him like.

but man can the guy recruit

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Re: venzy
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2012, 11:29:35 AM »
Would he ever take that job?  Seems he would stick it out at OU and take a low level HC job.

This would be less than lateral, he would play against OU, he would be moving 1000 miles from his recruiting base.  

Mikey being back in town changes things.

It's kind of a symbolic slap in the face to Venzy because he knows Mike is going to be the real DC.  It's a demotion, and everyone knows it.

So hang for a year, strengthen your recruiting ties, and make a HC move when a good but not great one opens.  Don't take 3 steps back and possibly give up a recruiting pipeline you built.

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Re: venzy
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2012, 11:30:38 AM »
Venables sucks.  He's a bad d coordinator. 

This is not true.

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Re: venzy
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2012, 11:35:03 AM »
Venables sucks.  He's a bad d coordinator. 

This is not true.
On second thought, after doing a little research, I agree.

Venables doesn't suck.


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Re: venzy
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2012, 11:39:39 AM »
Venables sucks.  He's a bad d coordinator. 

This is not true.
On second thought, after doing a little research, I agree.

Venables doesn't suck.

you may be right about the deity part, though.

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Re: venzy
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2012, 11:40:52 AM »
Would he ever take that job?  Seems he would stick it out at OU and take a low level HC job.

This would be less than lateral, he would play against OU, he would be moving 1000 miles from his recruiting base.  

Mikey being back in town changes things.

It's kind of a symbolic slap in the face to Venzy because he knows Mike is going to be the real DC.  It's a demotion, and everyone knows it.

So hang for a year, strengthen your recruiting ties, and make a HC move when a good but not great one opens.  Don't take 3 steps back and possibly give up a recruiting pipeline you built.

But if WVU joins, is he really giving up a pipeline?  The guy has been in the area for over 15 years.  He'll still be recruiting here while he's at WVU, presumably.

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Re: venzy
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2012, 11:41:29 AM »
Venables sucks.  He's a bad d coordinator. 

This is not true.
On second thought, after doing a little research, I agree.

Venables doesn't suck.

you may be right about the deity part, though.

Can we settle on urban legend?   Deity seems strong.

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Re: venzy
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2012, 11:43:02 AM »
Venables sucks.  He's a bad d coordinator. 

This is not true.
On second thought, after doing a little research, I agree.

Venables doesn't suck.

you may be right about the deity part, though.
It's just, I have a few Oklahoma friends, you know?  I also like to read OU boards.  And they all hate Venzy.  Hate him.  Blame him for every defect in OU's game.  They say they want him gone yesterday.  It's a lot like our sentiments of Cosh.   Just a bad d-coordinator.

But then you look at the numbers...and he's got the best defense in the big 12.  OU fans, I don't even know.


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« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2012, 11:46:56 AM »
It's just, I have a few Oklahoma friends, you know?  I also like to read OU boards.  And they all hate Venzy.  Hate him.  Blame him for every defect in OU's game.  They say they want him gone yesterday.  It's a lot like our sentiments of Cosh.   Just a bad d-coordinator.

But then you look at the numbers...and he's got the best defense in the big 12.  OU fans, I don't even know.

Yeah. I mostly want him because:

1) Recruiting
2) He's attainable

Other than giving some young hot-shot-recruiting kid a shot (like when I wanted Snyder to initially hire someone like Major Applewhite or Billy Gonzales for OC first time around), Venzy is our best possible option. And he's probably better than the kids.

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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2012, 11:51:56 AM »
It's just, I have a few Oklahoma friends, you know?  I also like to read OU boards.  And they all hate Venzy.  Hate him.  Blame him for every defect in OU's game.  They say they want him gone yesterday.  It's a lot like our sentiments of Cosh.   Just a bad d-coordinator.

But then you look at the numbers...and he's got the best defense in the big 12.  OU fans, I don't even know.

Yeah. I mostly want him because:

1) Recruiting
2) He's attainable

Other than giving some young hot-shot-recruiting kid a shot (like when I wanted Snyder to initially hire someone like Major Applewhite or Billy Gonzales for OC first time around), Venzy is our best possible option. And he's probably better than the kids.

He's a young option with a resume, especially if the WVU defense is good, that you can justify to make a head coach.

If he went there for two years and came back as our HCIW, it's a young, well-known face you can build around.  Also, it kind of deflects some of the animosity after 98 since he'll have a chance to distance himself from OU and Stoops.

If we want him to coach here, eventually, this may be a good thing in the grand scheme of things.

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Re: venzy
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2012, 11:54:48 AM »
would be a ridiculous get by WVU going into the Big 12.  great texas recruiting right out of the gates in the new confy.  wow.

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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2012, 11:55:13 AM »
gee, what a mystery this is.  why on earth would venzy want to go coach for dana "8-ball" holgorsen?

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Re: venzy
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2012, 11:58:15 AM »
gee, what a mystery this is.  why on earth would venzy want to go coach for dana "8-ball" holgorsen?

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