Moving on until KU/BU/MU stretch part 2...

[mocat]

Sidenote on Frank's record during the confy reg season:

his fairly impressive 41-26 record becomes a little more interesting when you consider that against teams that are currently in the Big 12, he is only 29-22

record against non-ku please, tia.  then do record vs. non-ku at home vs. road.  tia. 

Against non-ku (reg season only, current B12 teams only)
27-15

Home: 16-6 (Losses to Baylor x2, ISU, OU, OSU, UT)
Away: 11-9 (Losses to Baylor, MU x4, OSU x2, aTm, TTU)

Frank is undefeated in Ames, Norman, and Austin. Also never lost at home to Mizzou, aTm, or Tech.

Overall record vs current B12 teams (including postseason)

Baylor:  3-3
ISU:      7-1
KU:       2-8
MU:      5-4
OU:      3-1
OSU:    2-3
aTm:    3-2
UT:      3-2
TTU:    3-1

[Chonchito]

this is way way way way off subject but how weird is it that Fran Fraschilla's kid plays for OU???

http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/fraschilla_james00.html

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Sidenote on Frank's record during the confy reg season:

his fairly impressive 41-26 record becomes a little more interesting when you consider that against teams that are currently in the Big 12, he is only 29-22

record against non-ku please, tia.  then do record vs. non-ku at home vs. road.  tia. 

Against non-ku (reg season only, current B12 teams only)
27-15

Home: 16-6 (Losses to Baylor x2, ISU, OU, OSU, UT)
Away: 11-9 (Losses to Baylor, MU x4, OSU x2, aTm, TTU)

Frank is undefeated in Ames, Norman, and Austin. Also never lost at home to Mizzou, aTm, or Tech.

Overall record vs current B12 teams (including postseason)

Baylor:  3-3
ISU:      7-1
KU:       2-8
MU:      5-4
OU:      3-1
OSU:    2-3
aTm:    3-2
UT:      3-2
TTU:    3-1

None of this is relevant. 

1.  Different players
2.  The league is abysmal this year compared to years past

Remember, aTm, OSU, OU, UT all used to be good.  None of those teams could beat Drake this season

[sys]

Best player? Who? I saw OSU twice early on this year, and their entire team--including 9th-year senior The Boy Who Loved Clowns--looked like utter garbage.

That being said: seriously, when was the last time we won there?

I suppose a lot of that is based on potential. Nash is supposed to be really good.

he's not really good, fan.  he's not the best player on that team, even after subtracting olukemi from the equation.

[MakeItRain]

6-3

[gatoveintisiete]

Best player? Who? I saw OSU twice early on this year, and their entire team--including 9th-year senior The Boy Who Loved Clowns--looked like utter garbage.

That being said: seriously, when was the last time we won there?

I suppose a lot of that is based on potential. Nash is supposed to be really good.

My senior year of high school; Ski/Beane/DC and Altman beat OSU in Stillwater. January 9th, 1993 in OT.

Holy crap, always thought you were a tuck.

[mocat]

Sidenote on Frank's record during the confy reg season:

his fairly impressive 41-26 record becomes a little more interesting when you consider that against teams that are currently in the Big 12, he is only 29-22

record against non-ku please, tia.  then do record vs. non-ku at home vs. road.  tia. 

Against non-ku (reg season only, current B12 teams only)
27-15

Home: 16-6 (Losses to Baylor x2, ISU, OU, OSU, UT)
Away: 11-9 (Losses to Baylor, MU x4, OSU x2, aTm, TTU)

Frank is undefeated in Ames, Norman, and Austin. Also never lost at home to Mizzou, aTm, or Tech.

Overall record vs current B12 teams (including postseason)

Baylor:  3-3
ISU:      7-1
KU:       2-8
MU:      5-4
OU:      3-1
OSU:    2-3
aTm:    3-2
UT:      3-2
TTU:    3-1

None of this is relevant. 

1.  Different players
2.  The league is abysmal this year compared to years past

Remember, aTm, OSU, OU, UT all used to be good.  None of those teams could beat Drake this season

Just throwing it out there.

Also, regardless of players / teams having up or down years, Frank is 0-4 in Columbia, and KSU is 0-11 in Stillwater since 1993.
Just take the info fwiw

[EllToPay]

the comforting part about all of this is, barring a complete meltdown, we'll be in the tournament.

[kso_FAN]

Best player? Who? I saw OSU twice early on this year, and their entire team--including 9th-year senior The Boy Who Loved Clowns--looked like utter garbage.

That being said: seriously, when was the last time we won there?

I suppose a lot of that is based on potential. Nash is supposed to be really good.

My senior year of high school; Ski/Beane/DC and Altman beat OSU in Stillwater. January 9th, 1993 in OT.

Holy crap, always thought you were a tuck.

[uwcatfan]

Best player? Who? I saw OSU twice early on this year, and their entire team--including 9th-year senior The Boy Who Loved Clowns--looked like utter garbage.

That being said: seriously, when was the last time we won there?

I suppose a lot of that is based on potential. Nash is supposed to be really good.

My senior year of high school; Ski/Beane/DC and Altman beat OSU in Stillwater. January 9th, 1993 in OT.

True story: A young uwcatfan and his family had just moved to NC from KS, and my godfather mailed us the tape of this game.  We watched it as a family on a Friday night (a week after it happened) and I told my dad "This is better than the movies."  Also, I remember the game recap from the AP wire called us the "Cardiac Cats."  Ah, pre-internet days...

[pissclams]

yes i remember the cardiac cats as well. beane had like 1000 buzzer beaters that year.

[felix rex]

I'm chalking up stillwater as another loss at this point. Probably Ames, too. Sweeping Tech still looks likely, as does crapping away a home game versus OU, Texas or A&M. Went from hoping for 7-1 or 6-2 to expecting 5-3 at best and bracing for 4-4.

After that, I'm just gonna assume losses at Texas, Baylor, Mizzou, and at home versus KU during the last 7 games. We may be pushing to finish at .500 in conference. Does that get us in the tourney?

[catzacker]

if we don't finish 10-8 or better, then no ncaa tourney.  which means, at 1-3, we'll have to go 9-5. 

Losses:  @ BU, @MU
Likely Losses:  @ UT, @ ISU, @ A&M, @ OSU
Winnable: @ TT , KU, UT, ISU, A&M, OSU, OU
Wins:  TT

seems like a lot to expect out of this team.  plus, frank probably isn't done "teaching".  and jacob pullen isn't walking through that door to save our ass.

[michigancat]

if we don't finish 10-8 or better, then no ncaa tourney.  which means, at 1-3, we'll have to go 9-5. 

Losses:  @ BU, @MU
Likely Losses:  @ UT, @ ISU, @ A&M, @ OSU
Winnable: @ TT , KU, UT, ISU, A&M, OSU, OU
Wins:  TT

seems like a lot to expect out of this team.  plus, frank probably isn't done "teaching".  and jacob pullen isn't walking through that door to save our ass.

LMAO

[kougar24]

if we don't finish 10-8 or better, then no ncaa tourney.  which means, at 1-3, we'll have to go 9-5. 

Losses:  @ BU, @MU
Likely Losses:  @ UT, @ ISU, @ A&M, @ OSU
Winnable: @ TT , KU, UT, ISU, A&M, OSU, OU
Wins:  TT

seems like a lot to expect out of this team.  plus, frank probably isn't done "teaching".  and jacob pullen isn't walking through that door to save our ass.

Me, being the crazy sunshine pumper I am, would still keep @TT in the Wins column.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Aren't you all overreacting. . . just a little?!?!?!

[catzacker]

Me, being the crazy sunshine pumper I am, would still keep @TT in the Wins column.

i won't count road games as wins.  i suppose we did win @ VT a month ago.   i wouldn't argue that classification.  coming off the @ OSU loss might be tough for the team though.  what with their feelings hurt and them running stairs for 2 hours.

[MakeItRain]

I'm chalking up stillwater as another loss at this point. Probably Ames, too. Sweeping Tech still looks likely, as does crapping away a home game versus OU, Texas or A&M. Went from hoping for 7-1 or 6-2 to expecting 5-3 at best and bracing for 4-4.

After that, I'm just gonna assume losses at Texas, Baylor, Mizzou, and at home versus KU during the last 7 games. We may be pushing to finish at .500 in conference. Does that get us in the tourney?

Christ, stop being so reactionary.

@GaryParrishCBS: Last year's Final Four teams were a combined 23-24 in road games. In other words, this happens in this sport. Blog: http://bit.ly/xV3xFi

@GaryParrishCBS: Here's the breakdown of FF teams in road games last year: UK (3-7), UConn (5-5), VCU (8-6), Butler (7-6). Duke won 2010 title. 5-5 on road.

[catzacker]

i'm sure nebraska's road record sucked too. just sayin'

[michigancat]

I'm chalking up stillwater as another loss at this point. Probably Ames, too. Sweeping Tech still looks likely, as does crapping away a home game versus OU, Texas or A&M. Went from hoping for 7-1 or 6-2 to expecting 5-3 at best and bracing for 4-4.

After that, I'm just gonna assume losses at Texas, Baylor, Mizzou, and at home versus KU during the last 7 games. We may be pushing to finish at .500 in conference. Does that get us in the tourney?

Christ, stop being so reactionary.

@GaryParrishCBS: Last year's Final Four teams were a combined 23-24 in road games. In other words, this happens in this sport. Blog: http://bit.ly/xV3xFi

@GaryParrishCBS: Here's the breakdown of FF teams in road games last year: UK (3-7), UConn (5-5), VCU (8-6), Butler (7-6). Duke won 2010 title. 5-5 on road.

that's pretty crazy, but it makes sense.

i'm sure nebraska's road record sucked too. just sayin'

They were 1-7.

[MakeItRain]

i'm sure nebraska's road record sucked too. just sayin'

You missed the point.  I'm going to give you some credit and assume you missed it intentionally.  No way you're as stupid as fuktard, right?

[sys]

i'm sure nebraska's road record sucked too. just sayin'

You missed the point.  I'm going to give you some credit and assume you missed it intentionally.  No way you're as stupid as fuktard, right?

i'll stand up for zacker on this one.  the fact that good/successful teams have been mediocre on the road and does not mean that all teams that are mediocre on the road are good/will be successful, which i'm sure was his point.

[michigancat]

i'm sure nebraska's road record sucked too. just sayin'

You missed the point.  I'm going to give you some credit and assume you missed it intentionally.  No way you're as stupid as fuktard, right?

i'll stand up for zacker on this one.  the fact that good/successful teams have been mediocre on the road and does not mean that all teams that are mediocre on the road are good/will be successful, which i'm sure was his point.

I just want to say that not many people will recognize how great this post was. But I did. Thanks, sys.

[MakeItRain]

i'm sure nebraska's road record sucked too. just sayin'

You missed the point.  I'm going to give you some credit and assume you missed it intentionally.  No way you're as stupid as fuktard, right?

i'll stand up for zacker on this one.  the fact that good/successful teams have been mediocre on the road and does not mean that all teams that are mediocre on the road are good/will be successful, which i'm sure was his point.

the road is a bitch