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Re: Celebrity Deaths 2012
« Reply #550 on: February 05, 2021, 12:59:11 PM »
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« Reply #551 on: February 05, 2021, 01:06:28 PM »
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Re: Celebrity Deaths 2012
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Re: Celebrity Deaths 2012
« Reply #553 on: February 09, 2021, 10:51:36 AM »
way too young


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Re: Celebrity Deaths 2012
« Reply #554 on: February 09, 2021, 12:02:26 PM »
My mom suffered from Alzheimer's the last 10 years of her life and it is a horrible disease.  I feel bad for his family but I know there is probably a sense of relief that he's not suffering anymore.

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Re: Celebrity Deaths 2012
« Reply #555 on: February 09, 2021, 12:08:21 PM »
My mom suffered from Alzheimer's the last 10 years of her life and it is a horrible disease.  I feel bad for his family but I know there is probably a sense of relief that he's not suffering anymore.
Alzheimer disease is just awful.

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Re: Celebrity Deaths 2012
« Reply #556 on: February 09, 2021, 12:13:49 PM »
My mom suffered from Alzheimer's the last 10 years of her life and it is a horrible disease.  I feel bad for his family but I know there is probably a sense of relief that he's not suffering anymore.

Same here. My mom is still alive, and earlier in the process, but there is no doubt of where it's headed.  :frown:

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« Reply #557 on: February 09, 2021, 12:44:13 PM »
My mom suffered from Alzheimer's the last 10 years of her life and it is a horrible disease.  I feel bad for his family but I know there is probably a sense of relief that he's not suffering anymore.

Same here. My mom is still alive, and earlier in the process, but there is no doubt of where it's headed.  :frown:

Sorry to hear that, Pete. 

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« Reply #558 on: February 09, 2021, 12:56:17 PM »
I didn't realize Schottenheimer was 77.  Wow.

Alzheimer's is a bitch.  My grandma had it for like the last 15 years of her life.  She was strong as a bull, so her body didn't give up, but her mind was pretty much gone. 

She used to love doing jigsaw puzzles at the nursing home.  Often, she would put a puzzle together, then take it back apart.  Then get pissed off and blame the people working there for taking apart her puzzle.
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Re: Celebrity Deaths 2012
« Reply #559 on: February 09, 2021, 01:14:32 PM »
My mom suffered from Alzheimer's the last 10 years of her life and it is a horrible disease.  I feel bad for his family but I know there is probably a sense of relief that he's not suffering anymore.

Same here. My mom is still alive, and earlier in the process, but there is no doubt of where it's headed.  :frown:

Ah Pete I'm so sorry man. Ps.

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« Reply #560 on: February 09, 2021, 02:20:26 PM »
I didn't realize Schottenheimer was 77.  Wow.

Alzheimer's is a bitch.  My grandma had it for like the last 15 years of her life.  She was strong as a bull, so her body didn't give up, but her mind was pretty much gone. 

She used to love doing jigsaw puzzles at the nursing home.  Often, she would put a puzzle together, then take it back apart.  Then get pissed off and blame the people working there for taking apart her puzzle.

This will sound morbid, but I am actually a little concerned that this will be the case with my Mom.  She's very healthy physically, and quite tough.  If her mind goes completely, and her body lingers, it's going to force my Dad to lose every cent except for his house and one car, to pay for her care until she could be covered by government assistance in a nursing home.  We tried to convince them to do the paper divorce thing and split assets, but their savings aren't huge anyway so it probably would have been a wash. 

It's the very worst disease in so many ways.  It steals a person before they are gone, and while it does it, it will financially cripple a family (at least it does in the USA).

My family has known this is coming for quite some time now, so I getting much more at peace about it, but it has been very difficult.

On the upside, this has made me change my entire outlook on retirement.  I no longer define "success" or "achievement" in retirement as being able to not work.  Instead, I'll be giving God some massive high-fives if I am mentally and physically capable of working when I am 70.  That would be a huge WIN in my book!

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Re: Celebrity Deaths 2012
« Reply #561 on: February 09, 2021, 02:21:18 PM »
My mom suffered from Alzheimer's the last 10 years of her life and it is a horrible disease.  I feel bad for his family but I know there is probably a sense of relief that he's not suffering anymore.

Same here. My mom is still alive, and earlier in the process, but there is no doubt of where it's headed.  :frown:

Sorry to hear that, Pete.

Likewise, bro.

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« Reply #562 on: February 09, 2021, 02:23:06 PM »
My parents gave me and my sister power of attorney over both of them and transferred the farm into our names.

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« Reply #563 on: February 09, 2021, 02:29:57 PM »
My parents gave me and my sister power of attorney over both of them and transferred the farm into our names.

If you hope to be able to get government assistance on nursing home cost, then they will do a 5 year look back to see if you disposed of any assets or gave away anything that they can count that toward your ability to pay.  So, if they gave me any cash or property, it would count against them if one of them needs the assistance within 5 years.  However, it's kinda like bankruptcy, where you get to keep your house and one car.  So, my Dad will keep the house, and we'll have him get a new Toyota or something to last for a long time. At that point, I'll just help him out with what SS won't cover.

I'm really fortunate (blessed) to be in that position, all things considered. 

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Re: Celebrity Deaths 2012
« Reply #564 on: February 09, 2021, 02:31:55 PM »
My parents gave me and my sister power of attorney over both of them and transferred the farm into our names.

If you hope to be able to get government assistance on nursing home cost, then they will do a 5 year look back to see if you disposed of any assets or gave away anything that they can count that toward your ability to pay.  So, if they gave me any cash or property, it would count against them if one of them needs the assistance within 5 years.  However, it's kinda like bankruptcy, where you get to keep your house and one car.  So, my Dad will keep the house, and we'll have him get a new Toyota or something to last for a long time. At that point, I'll just help him out with what SS won't cover.

I'm really fortunate (blessed) to be in that position, all things considered.

Can't you put the assets in an irrevocable trust where the corpus escheats to the state in order to avoid the "preference" issue, or whatever?

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« Reply #565 on: February 09, 2021, 02:39:28 PM »
My parents gave me and my sister power of attorney over both of them and transferred the farm into our names.

If you hope to be able to get government assistance on nursing home cost, then they will do a 5 year look back to see if you disposed of any assets or gave away anything that they can count that toward your ability to pay.  So, if they gave me any cash or property, it would count against them if one of them needs the assistance within 5 years.  However, it's kinda like bankruptcy, where you get to keep your house and one car.  So, my Dad will keep the house, and we'll have him get a new Toyota or something to last for a long time. At that point, I'll just help him out with what SS won't cover.

I'm really fortunate (blessed) to be in that position, all things considered.

Can't you put the assets in an irrevocable trust where the corpus escheats to the state in order to avoid the "preference" issue, or whatever?

If I understand it correctly, you can't use this loophole. However, I get most of my info second hand from what my Dad finds out, and that could itself not be the best info.  They don't have that many assets to worry about anyway.

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« Reply #566 on: February 09, 2021, 02:41:41 PM »
My parents gave me and my sister power of attorney over both of them and transferred the farm into our names.

If you hope to be able to get government assistance on nursing home cost, then they will do a 5 year look back to see if you disposed of any assets or gave away anything that they can count that toward your ability to pay.  So, if they gave me any cash or property, it would count against them if one of them needs the assistance within 5 years.  However, it's kinda like bankruptcy, where you get to keep your house and one car.  So, my Dad will keep the house, and we'll have him get a new Toyota or something to last for a long time. At that point, I'll just help him out with what SS won't cover.

I'm really fortunate (blessed) to be in that position, all things considered.

They actually did the transfer 7 years prior to her being admitted to the nursing home.  My dad is a Vietnam vet so he was able to get VA assistance taking care of the house about 3 years ago which helped to delay putting her in. But truth is, she probably should have gone in a few years earlier. 

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« Reply #567 on: February 09, 2021, 02:44:25 PM »
My parents gave me and my sister power of attorney over both of them and transferred the farm into our names.

If you hope to be able to get government assistance on nursing home cost, then they will do a 5 year look back to see if you disposed of any assets or gave away anything that they can count that toward your ability to pay.  So, if they gave me any cash or property, it would count against them if one of them needs the assistance within 5 years.  However, it's kinda like bankruptcy, where you get to keep your house and one car.  So, my Dad will keep the house, and we'll have him get a new Toyota or something to last for a long time. At that point, I'll just help him out with what SS won't cover.

I'm really fortunate (blessed) to be in that position, all things considered.

They actually did the transfer 7 years prior to her being admitted to the nursing home.  My dad is a Vietnam vet so he was able to get VA assistance taking care of the house about 3 years ago which helped to delay putting her in. But truth is, she probably should have gone in a few years earlier.

That was a huge benefit, and well deserved for him. 

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« Reply #568 on: February 09, 2021, 02:45:07 PM »
My parents gave me and my sister power of attorney over both of them and transferred the farm into our names.

If you hope to be able to get government assistance on nursing home cost, then they will do a 5 year look back to see if you disposed of any assets or gave away anything that they can count that toward your ability to pay.  So, if they gave me any cash or property, it would count against them if one of them needs the assistance within 5 years.  However, it's kinda like bankruptcy, where you get to keep your house and one car.  So, my Dad will keep the house, and we'll have him get a new Toyota or something to last for a long time. At that point, I'll just help him out with what SS won't cover.

I'm really fortunate (blessed) to be in that position, all things considered.

Can't you put the assets in an irrevocable trust where the corpus escheats to the state in order to avoid the "preference" issue, or whatever?

If I understand it correctly, you can't use this loophole. However, I get most of my info second hand from what my Dad finds out, and that could itself not be the best info.  They don't have that many assets to worry about anyway.

I know that is legal in Texas, but I only know that as to Texas law, and I acquired that knowledge prior to my lawyering days, so please don't accept any of this as legal advice.

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« Reply #569 on: February 09, 2021, 03:08:46 PM »
I didn't realize Schottenheimer was 77.  Wow.

Alzheimer's is a bitch.  My grandma had it for like the last 15 years of her life.  She was strong as a bull, so her body didn't give up, but her mind was pretty much gone. 

She used to love doing jigsaw puzzles at the nursing home.  Often, she would put a puzzle together, then take it back apart.  Then get pissed off and blame the people working there for taking apart her puzzle.

This will sound morbid, but I am actually a little concerned that this will be the case with my Mom.  She's very healthy physically, and quite tough.  If her mind goes completely, and her body lingers, it's going to force my Dad to lose every cent except for his house and one car, to pay for her care until she could be covered by government assistance in a nursing home.  We tried to convince them to do the paper divorce thing and split assets, but their savings aren't huge anyway so it probably would have been a wash. 

It's the very worst disease in so many ways.  It steals a person before they are gone, and while it does it, it will financially cripple a family (at least it does in the USA).

My family has known this is coming for quite some time now, so I getting much more at peace about it, but it has been very difficult.

On the upside, this has made me change my entire outlook on retirement.  I no longer define "success" or "achievement" in retirement as being able to not work.  Instead, I'll be giving God some massive high-fives if I am mentally and physically capable of working when I am 70.  That would be a huge WIN in my book!

I wasn't privy to how the finances went with my grandma.  My dad has 7 brothers and sisters, so I'm sure things got split up between all of them.  Still very expensive, I'm sure, but 2 of the kids are veterans, so maybe that helped.  Don't know. 
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Re: Celebrity Deaths 2012
« Reply #571 on: February 11, 2021, 07:09:26 AM »
LOS ANGELES—Porn purveyor Larry Flynt, who built Hustler magazine into an adult-entertainment empire while championing First Amendment rights, died Wednesday. He was 78.

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« Reply #572 on: February 11, 2021, 07:38:58 AM »
LOS ANGELES—Porn purveyor Larry Flynt, who built Hustler magazine into an adult-entertainment empire while championing First Amendment rights, died Wednesday. He was 78.

I thought he had been dead for a long time. 

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« Reply #573 on: February 11, 2021, 08:50:09 AM »
LOS ANGELES—Porn purveyor Larry Flynt, who built Hustler magazine into an adult-entertainment empire while championing First Amendment rights, died Wednesday. He was 78.

I thought he had been dead for a long time.
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