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Conference Power Rankings
« on: December 27, 2011, 12:28:35 PM »


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Re: Conference Power Rankings
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2011, 12:33:50 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2011, 01:05:06 PM »
5th motherfuckers!!!!!

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Re: Conference Power Rankings
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2011, 01:08:13 PM »
He's a Baylor grad!!111
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Re: Conference Power Rankings
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2011, 01:21:12 PM »
i finally got a chance to watch a baylor game.  they're better than last year, but they aren't winning the big 12.
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Re: Conference Power Rankings
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2011, 01:42:25 PM »
Seems like it was more of a donkey punch but whatever.

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Re: Conference Power Rankings
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2011, 04:18:20 PM »
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Re: Conference Power Rankings
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2011, 05:01:39 PM »
i finally got a chance to watch a baylor game.  they're better than last year, but they aren't winning the big 12.

Imagine if we force them out of their zone and they didn't prepare for the pinch-post/pinwheel offense  :excited: :drool:

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Re: Conference Power Rankings
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2011, 05:19:29 PM »
i finally got a chance to watch a baylor game.  they're better than last year, but they aren't winning the big 12.

who is?  look into your crystal ball and give me the top 5.  (bottom 5 are irrelevant to me)

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Re: Conference Power Rankings
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2011, 05:32:13 PM »
who is?  look into your crystal ball and give me the top 5.  (bottom 5 are irrelevant to me)

ku
mu

ksu
baylor
texas

assuming no important injuries for ku & mu.  neither has the depth to endure significant injuries.
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Re: Conference Power Rankings
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2011, 06:08:42 PM »
Man, Pokes might go 6-12 or worse in conference play. What's their record next year with Smart? I'd guess 10-8 if LeBryan Nash stays, 8-10 if he goes pro.

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Re: Conference Power Rankings
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2011, 06:22:26 PM »
Self will put a clown suit on haith.  No way he lets the slavers win his conference going away.
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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2011, 06:28:17 PM »




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« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2011, 08:23:37 AM »
Self will put a clown suit on haith.  No way he lets the slavers win his conference going away.

I agree. Missouri has looked very impressive, but they still don't have a signature win. I think they will have trouble matching up with elite teams due to a lack of bigs, and they will probably end up 3rd or 4th in the Big 12.

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Re: Conference Power Rankings
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2011, 04:04:44 PM »
Self will put a clown suit on haith.  No way he lets the slavers win his conference going away.

I agree. Missouri has looked very impressive, but they still don't have a signature win. I think they will have trouble matching up with elite teams due to a lack of bigs, and they will probably end up 3rd or 4th in the Big 12.

I agree and their win against Cal (especially the way they beat them) was really impressive. However, their SOS is pretty weak (#331) and even more the strength of the defenses they've faced is one of the weakest in D1 basketball this year (#343 out of 345 teams).

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Re: Conference Power Rankings
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2011, 04:50:07 PM »
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It’s easy to get a shot in a four-guard offense. If you can get away with it on defense and get away with it rebounding, it’s a lot easier. You can just let these guys play.

no one has not let them get away with it, yet.


btw, this is also the reason baylor isn't winning the big 12.
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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2011, 04:51:30 PM »
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It’s easy to get a shot in a four-guard offense. If you can get away with it on defense and get away with it rebounding, it’s a lot easier. You can just let these guys play.

no one has not let them get away with it, yet.


btw, this is also the reason baylor isn't winning the big 12.

Yes, KU is winning the Big 12.

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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2011, 12:04:02 AM »
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It’s easy to get a shot in a four-guard offense. If you can get away with it on defense and get away with it rebounding, it’s a lot easier. You can just let these guys play.

no one has not let them get away with it, yet.


btw, this is also the reason baylor isn't winning the big 12.

Yes, KU is winning the Big 12.

meh.  Seems like everyone is tip toeing here.  Why is it so easy to say KU will win the conference but no one wants to say K-State has a shot.  Obviously not the best team we've had in the Martin era, but I think this will be our best shot to win the conference.  The top is going to have a fair amount of losses, this brings the pack together.  Not only is KU not deep but they are mentally fragile.  They don't have the tough, battle tested guards that are the hallmark of that program.  They do have the best player in the league and I think their overall front line is underrated, but I really hate their guards.  They may win, but I'm going to trust my eyes and not "crown their ass."

If we are just going to seemingly arbitrarily pick KU to win because they've won before why not pick UT?

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Re: Conference Power Rankings
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2011, 12:20:28 AM »
If we are just going to seemingly arbitrarily pick KU to win because they've won before why not pick UT?

1) kenpom,  2) ku beat gtown and osu, ut best win is temple.  mu's killed everyone but illinois.


look, i don't trust any of the teams, and kstate absolutely has a shot.  but if i'm going to crown any of these flawed teams, ku makes more sense than any of the others.  the only thing i'm sure of is that baylor isn't winning the big 12 trying to keep 3 power fowards on the court at the same time.
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Re: Conference Power Rankings
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2011, 09:00:37 AM »
do you guys think that the kitn was the huggy bowl? im trying to get excited but i feel it will come crashing down. a tech or osu will probably beat us at home because thats just what we do

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« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2011, 10:04:11 AM »
Here's what I like about this team at this point:

1.  Offense seems to be ahead of where it is most years. Still has its hiccups, but there seems to be more fluidity and purpose than we've seen in December.

2.  Seem to be playing above the rim more. Good sign for overall athleticism and may also mean 1) offense is creating easier opportunities 2) guys are being more assertive and getting better position.

3.  Seems like we've got a couple of new defensive wrinkles that have been positive so far.  More halfcourt trapping than I remember in the past?

4.  Several games lately where second-teamers have held/extended lead. Of course, this is a mixed bag as sometimes the first-teamers haven't been as effective as they should be, and less of a gap between the two can mean that the first teamers aren't as good as they should be. Still, at this point I'd give the edge to our bench being improved, rather than our starters not being very good.

5.  Related to 4, seems like we have a number of guys who can step up. As we saw in Hawaii, this can make it tough for other teams to decide on a defensive strategy. Gipson struggled when teams started focusing on him, but Jamar and DOB have benefited and once teams focus on them, Gipson's play should receive a boost. Same thing with Angel/Sprads/Gruds. If 1.5 of those guys can be "on" each game, we'll win quite a few.