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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2011, 03:25:04 PM »
Snyder could have never put that kind of talent together at LSU or Alabama or any other program that people assume is automatic for recruiting.  Your Les Miles and Nick Sabans of the world can.  Snyder also got his ass whipped by a 3 loss OU team at home.  LSU would beat that OU team by 95 points.  Bill is great for KState, but he's no Les Miles or Nick Saban.  
Disagree with this because it is flawed logic. If Bill had been at LSU for the amount of time that he has been at KStatae it could be argued he would be the best coach in the history of coaches. To say a guy who recruits a state with little to no high level talents and relies on Jucos and farm kids couldn't coach at a school that has five star farm kids is rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). The entire state of Louisianna is a hotbed of D1 talent...one where we get 2 stars and late qualifiers and are ecstatic about th em. To act like Bill can't deal with talented kids is dumb...its not like they all demand only green peanut m&ms in their locker before the game.

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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2011, 03:29:09 PM »
Snyder could have never put that kind of talent together at LSU or Alabama or any other program that people assume is automatic for recruiting.  Your Les Miles and Nick Sabans of the world can.  Snyder also got his ass whipped by a 3 loss OU team at home.  LSU would beat that OU team by 95 points.  Bill is great for KState, but he's no Les Miles or Nick Saban.  
Disagree with this because it is flawed logic. If Bill had been at LSU for the amount of time that he has been at KStatae it could be argued he would be the best coach in the history of coaches. To say a guy who recruits a state with little to no high level talents and relies on Jucos and farm kids couldn't coach at a school that has five star farm kids is rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). The entire state of Louisianna is a hotbed of D1 talent...one where we get 2 stars and late qualifiers and are ecstatic about th em. To act like Bill can't deal with talented kids is dumb...its not like they all demand only green peanut m&ms in their locker before the game.

Bill could never get the talent that Les has.  He could never attract assistants like Les has.  Most importantly, he could never win like Les has. 

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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2011, 03:30:27 PM »
Ole Lester will get what he has coming next year alright
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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2011, 03:30:38 PM »
LSU would be the Arkansas of the SEC.

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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2011, 03:30:45 PM »
Disagree with this because it is flawed logic. If Bill had been at LSU for the amount of time that he has been at KStatae it could be argued he would be the best coach in the history of coaches. To say a guy who recruits a state with little to no high level talents and relies on Jucos and farm kids couldn't coach at a school that has five star farm kids is rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). The entire state of Louisianna is a hotbed of D1 talent...one where we get 2 stars and late qualifiers and are ecstatic about th em. To act like Bill can't deal with talented kids is dumb...its not like they all demand only green peanut m&ms in their locker before the game.

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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2011, 03:48:02 PM »
Snyder could have never put that kind of talent together at LSU or Alabama or any other program that people assume is automatic for recruiting.  Your Les Miles and Nick Sabans of the world can.  Snyder also got his ass whipped by a 3 loss OU team at home.  LSU would beat that OU team by 95 points.  Bill is great for KState, but he's no Les Miles or Nick Saban.  
Disagree with this because it is flawed logic. If Bill had been at LSU for the amount of time that he has been at KStatae it could be argued he would be the best coach in the history of coaches. To say a guy who recruits a state with little to no high level talents and relies on Jucos and farm kids couldn't coach at a school that has five star farm kids is rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). The entire state of Louisianna is a hotbed of D1 talent...one where we get 2 stars and late qualifiers and are ecstatic about th em. To act like Bill can't deal with talented kids is dumb...its not like they all demand only green peanut m&ms in their locker before the game.


Bill could never get the talent that Les has.  He could never attract assistants like Les has.  Most importantly, he could never win like Les has. 
Again how can you say that? First off Les was pretty meh at OkState, he used moderate successto propel him into a very good job...LSU fans were pretty meh about the whole hire. Also I'm guessing LSU has a whole lot more money they are willing to throw at assistants which would make Bills long hours more bearable. Also LSU has always been a destination type job where assistants can use success on their side of the ball into a big time HC job like Muschamp did at UT. So no I still think your whole line of thinking is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)

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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2011, 04:03:16 PM »
If it is so easy to go undefeated at LSU why have they never gone undefeated before ever? Like, with any coach?

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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2011, 04:08:18 PM »
Also, if any of you dipshits downgrading LSU's path to an undefeated seasons could let me know who has had a more impressive undefeated run in the last 20 or so years, please let me know.

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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #33 on: December 21, 2011, 04:29:06 PM »
Old Ballz apologists need to realize that just because he didn't win doesn't mean that people don't appreciate him.  JFC, guys.

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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #34 on: December 21, 2011, 04:44:18 PM »
Also, if any of you dipshits downgrading LSU's path to an undefeated seasons could let me know who has had a more impressive undefeated run in the last 20 or so years, please let me know.

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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #35 on: December 21, 2011, 05:21:31 PM »
It's AP Coach of the Year.  Not best coaching staff of all time.  To me the award should be based on how your team did compared to the expectations\talent you have preseason.  LSU has some of the best players in the country and they were expected to win, if not win every game.  KSU was predicted 8th in the Big 12 preseason, and ended 8th in the country!  This year, with all the coaches and all the players, Snyder did the best job of defying expectations and overcoming talent gaps.  This is why he should be the Coach of the Year.

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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #36 on: December 21, 2011, 05:44:37 PM »
It's AP Coach of the Year.  Not best coaching staff of all time.  To me the award should be based on how your team did compared to the expectations\talent you have preseason.  LSU has some of the best players in the country and they were expected to win, if not win every game.  KSU was predicted 8th in the Big 12 preseason, and ended 8th in the country!  This year, with all the coaches and all the players, Snyder did the best job of defying expectations and overcoming talent gaps.  This is why he should be the Coach of the Year.

Believe me, I can see how Snyder would deserve the award in many years, but Miles definitely deserves it this year. He legitimately had one of the most impressive undefeated runs in the last 20 years (or more). Disqualifying someone from coach of the year only because they started with high expectations seems pretty stupid to me.

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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #37 on: December 21, 2011, 05:49:56 PM »
It's AP Coach of the Year.  Not best coaching staff of all time.  To me the award should be based on how your team did compared to the expectations\talent you have preseason.  LSU has some of the best players in the country and they were expected to win, if not win every game.  KSU was predicted 8th in the Big 12 preseason, and ended 8th in the country!  This year, with all the coaches and all the players, Snyder did the best job of defying expectations and overcoming talent gaps.  This is why he should be the Coach of the Year.

yes, let's let the fat slob journalists set the expectations of how well a team should do. that's how we should gauge it!  :rolleyes:

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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #38 on: December 21, 2011, 06:00:05 PM »
Old Ballz apologists need to realize that just because he didn't win doesn't mean that people don't appreciate him.  JFC, guys.
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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2011, 06:19:21 PM »
Les Miles beat 7 teams that are playing Dec. 31st or later bowl games  :horrorsurprise:

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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2011, 06:29:03 PM »
Les Miles beat 7 teams that are playing Dec. 31st or later bowl games  :horrorsurprise:
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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2011, 06:31:51 PM »
let me explain how these things work.  if you win, you brag about it like a total jackass.  if you don't win, you don't give a flying eff about who does.

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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #42 on: December 21, 2011, 06:41:23 PM »
let me explain how these things work.  if you win, you brag about it like a total jackass.  if you don't win, you don't give a flying eff about who does.
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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #43 on: December 21, 2011, 07:46:01 PM »


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« Reply #44 on: December 21, 2011, 08:10:13 PM »


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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #45 on: December 21, 2011, 08:11:36 PM »
He assembled and coached a team that, if they beat Alabama again, is arguably the greatest team of all time.  Look at the rankings of the teams they have beaten and where/how they beat them.  You really can't vote against him here.

If K-State beats Arky then it really calls into question the legitimacy of the SEC this year and in turn the legitimacy of LSU. If the Cats win then I'd be pretty confident in saying that LSU isn't any better than OSU and we'll never know for sure. The Big 12 has the best OOC record this year for a reason.

LSU also destroyed the BE champs at their place, the P12 champs in Dallas and that Arkansas team 41-17.  There is no questioning their legitimacy you dumbass.

Hey now lets not resort to violent words that hurt feelings  :nono:  They should have lost to Oregon in what was pretty much a home game. Oregon screwed themselves. West Virginia couldnt hold TTUs jockstrap this year so that win is pretty much discredited. Really the only conferences worth a damn are the SEC and Big 12 and our 5th or 6th best team should have beat their 3rd best and would have handily if they weren't choke artists this year. So again I question the ability of LSU against OSU.
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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #46 on: December 21, 2011, 09:08:33 PM »
It's AP Coach of the Year.  Not best coaching staff of all time.  To me the award should be based on how your team did compared to the expectations\talent you have preseason.  LSU has some of the best players in the country and they were expected to win, if not win every game.  KSU was predicted 8th in the Big 12 preseason, and ended 8th in the country!  This year, with all the coaches and all the players, Snyder did the best job of defying expectations and overcoming talent gaps.  This is why he should be the Coach of the Year.

Believe me, I can see how Snyder would deserve the award in many years, but Miles definitely deserves it this year. He legitimately had one of the most impressive undefeated runs in the last 20 years (or more). Disqualifying someone from coach of the year only because they started with high expectations seems pretty stupid to me.
even dumber to pick them over a team which was suppose to finish in the bottom 3rd of the best league and nearly won the Dr Pepper.

and the 2005 UT squad probably had a harder schedule and for sure had a hard op in the MNC.
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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #47 on: December 21, 2011, 09:26:19 PM »
LHC Bill Snyder took a top 10 team and lost 2 games. It's hard to say he should get it over an undefeated Les Miles.

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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #48 on: December 21, 2011, 09:56:06 PM »
LHC Bill Snyder took a top 10 team and lost 2 games. It's hard to say he should get it over an undefeated Les Miles.

OBz took the 8th best team in the big12 and turned them into a top 10 team. That deserves a COY trophy.

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Re: Les Miles AP COY....
« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2011, 09:59:52 PM »
LHC Bill Snyder took a top 10 team and lost 2 games. It's hard to say he should get it over an undefeated Les Miles.

OBz took the 8th best team in the big12 darkest horse of them all and turned them into a top 10 team. That deserves a COY trophy.

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