Author Topic: 2015 Recruiting thread, The Bread Basket (Read 296650 times)

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #1125 on:** March 04, 2015, 11:35:44 AM »

Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 03, 2015, 09:28:35 PM

Quote from: sys on March 03, 2015, 09:23:50 PM
i dunno how many minutes he can play, but hurt could become a really good player.
How far he can improve his body in the offseason will be super important. It holds him back.

His defense is atrocious. We'll need DJamer to guard the post and rebound.

Mixed-Nutz · « **Reply #1126 on:** March 04, 2015, 11:38:07 AM »

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2015, 11:35:44 AM

Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 03, 2015, 09:28:35 PM
Quote from: sys on March 03, 2015, 09:23:50 PM
i dunno how many minutes he can play, but hurt could become a really good player.
How far he can improve his body in the offseason will be super important. It holds him back.

His defense is atrocious. We'll need DJamer to guard the post and rebound.

Hurt has been disappointing at protecting the rim. Has blk% of 2. I think a lot of his issues are from being out of position.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #1127 on:** March 04, 2015, 12:45:16 PM »

Why do we have Tre leaving? I don't like that scenario.

sunny_cat · « **Reply #1128 on:** March 04, 2015, 12:54:17 PM »

Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 04, 2015, 12:45:16 PM

Why do we have Tre leaving? I don't like that scenario.

Are you serious?

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #1129 on:** March 04, 2015, 12:54:51 PM »

Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 04, 2015, 11:38:07 AM

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2015, 11:35:44 AM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 03, 2015, 09:28:35 PM
Quote from: sys on March 03, 2015, 09:23:50 PM
i dunno how many minutes he can play, but hurt could become a really good player.
How far he can improve his body in the offseason will be super important. It holds him back.

His defense is atrocious. We'll need DJamer to guard the post and rebound.

Hurt has been disappointing at protecting the rim. Has blk% of 2. I think a lot of his issues are from being out of position.

He's always out of position. He's never even accidentally been in the right spot, which is remarkable.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #1130 on:** March 04, 2015, 12:57:43 PM »

Quote from: sunny_cat on March 04, 2015, 12:54:17 PM

Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 04, 2015, 12:45:16 PM
Why do we have Tre leaving? I don't like that scenario.
Are you serious?

I mean, I like him over Jevon. He's had some nice moments this year. Plus, his name suits his game.

sunny_cat · « **Reply #1131 on:** March 04, 2015, 01:01:08 PM »

Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 04, 2015, 12:57:43 PM

Quote from: sunny_cat on March 04, 2015, 12:54:17 PM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 04, 2015, 12:45:16 PM
Why do we have Tre leaving? I don't like that scenario.
Are you serious?
I mean, I like him over Jevon. He's had some nice moments this year. Plus, his name suits his game.

I don't take him over JT.

sunny_cat · « **Reply #1132 on:** March 04, 2015, 01:02:48 PM »

I would be fine with both leaving but Tre can't do crap beyond shoot 3s

Mixed-Nutz · « **Reply #1133 on:** March 04, 2015, 01:19:07 PM »

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2015, 12:54:51 PM

Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 04, 2015, 11:38:07 AM
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2015, 11:35:44 AM
Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 03, 2015, 09:28:35 PM
Quote from: sys on March 03, 2015, 09:23:50 PM
i dunno how many minutes he can play, but hurt could become a really good player.
How far he can improve his body in the offseason will be super important. It holds him back.

His defense is atrocious. We'll need DJamer to guard the post and rebound.

Hurt has been disappointing at protecting the rim. Has blk% of 2. I think a lot of his issues are from being out of position.

He's always out of position. He's never even accidentally been in the right spot, which is remarkable.

Down in Waco he ran out to the wing in transition D, it broke me.

sys · « **Reply #1134 on:** March 04, 2015, 03:19:38 PM »

yes, he's horrible at defense. but he'll have a year to get good.

Belvis Noland · « **Reply #1135 on:** March 04, 2015, 03:25:40 PM »

aside from +10ft FGs and FTs, Hurt is terrible at every facet of the game. I mean, just horrible.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #1136 on:** March 04, 2015, 03:32:54 PM »

Quote from: Belvis Noland on March 04, 2015, 03:25:40 PM

aside from +10ft FGs and FTs, Hurt is terrible at every facet of the game. I mean, just horrible.

He rebounds well.

But yeah, his defense is terrible and he doesn't want to be physical. 2 things that make it tough against Big 12 bigs.

Belvis Noland · « **Reply #1137 on:** March 04, 2015, 04:12:16 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 04, 2015, 03:32:54 PM

Quote from: Belvis Noland on March 04, 2015, 03:25:40 PM
aside from +10ft FGs and FTs, Hurt is terrible at every facet of the game. I mean, just horrible.

He rebounds well.

I'll assume you have an advanced stat to back this up. but, when I watch him on TV, it sure seems like he is a very poor rebounder, mostly the product of the fact that he has zero vertical and his physicality, positioning, and footwork are all bad.

Mixed-Nutz · « **Reply #1138 on:** March 04, 2015, 04:22:06 PM »

Quote from: Belvis Noland on March 04, 2015, 04:12:16 PM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 04, 2015, 03:32:54 PM

Quote from: Belvis Noland on March 04, 2015, 03:25:40 PM
aside from +10ft FGs and FTs, Hurt is terrible at every facet of the game. I mean, just horrible.

He rebounds well.

I'll assume you have an advanced stat to back this up. but, when I watch him on TV, it sure seems like he is a very poor rebounder, mostly the product of the fact that he has zero vertical and his physicality, positioning, and footwork are all bad.

Hurt doesn't have bad footwork. He just out of position way too much. I don't think he shies away from contact. I think it is reasonable to think he has a chance to be a good player next year.

conference
OR% 9.9
DR% 14.8
BLK% 2.9
FTRate 46.5
FT% .708
2FG% .400
3FG% .429

Belvis Noland · « **Reply #1139 on:** March 04, 2015, 04:35:43 PM »

Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 04, 2015, 04:22:06 PM

I think it is reasonable to think he has a chance to be a good player next year.

If he were a raw Fr., I'd agree with you. But, he's a Jr and he was not good this year. he showed nothing to suggest he's going to magically transform into a good, productive big man his Sr year.

very disappointing. even if DJamer comes back and contributes, our frontcourt is going to be embarrassingly bad next year.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #1140 on:** March 04, 2015, 06:37:26 PM »

He's skilled offensively, just not enough to outweigh his terrible defense, as of right now. Hopefully he gets better, but he's is kind of long in the tooth for development.

Belvis Noland · « **Reply #1141 on:** March 04, 2015, 06:48:40 PM »

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2015, 06:37:26 PM

He's skilled offensively, just not enough to outweigh his terrible defense, as of right now. Hopefully he gets better, but he's is kind of long in the tooth for development.

He's skilled at shooting unguarded jumpers. I've never seen a post move out of him.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #1142 on:** March 04, 2015, 06:53:02 PM »

Quote from: Belvis Noland on March 04, 2015, 06:48:40 PM

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 04, 2015, 06:37:26 PM
He's skilled offensively, just not enough to outweigh his terrible defense, as of right now. Hopefully he gets better, but he's is kind of long in the tooth for development.

He's skilled at shooting unguarded jumpers. I've never seen a post move out of him.

He had a good move Saturday

Stevesie60 · « **Reply #1143 on:** March 04, 2015, 11:35:24 PM »

Will Wade play the 4 or the 3?

Skipper44 · « **Reply #1144 on:** March 05, 2015, 11:21:45 AM »

Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 04, 2015, 11:35:24 PM

Will Wade play the 4 or the 3?

I would have to guess the 4 just due to the availability of minutes there vs Westicles, Edwards and even Tre available to play the 3. If Wade is a legit 3 pt threat it will really help oscar's offense but it is hard to imagine Wade will be able to defend Big 12 3s or 4s

Stevesie60 · « **Reply #1145 on:** March 05, 2015, 11:24:56 AM »

Guys, Wade is ranked #109 right now. #107 is a 4-star. He's so close!

Mixed-Nutz · « **Reply #1146 on:** March 05, 2015, 11:28:20 AM »

Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 05, 2015, 11:24:56 AM

Guys, Wade is ranked #109 right now. #107 is a 4-star. He's so close!

Bossi has said he is really conservative on his ranking because he is local to him and hasn't been seen a ton in the AAU circuit.

Skipper44 · « **Reply #1147 on:** March 05, 2015, 11:30:15 AM »

Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on March 05, 2015, 11:28:20 AM

Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 05, 2015, 11:24:56 AM
Guys, Wade is ranked #109 right now. #107 is a 4-star. He's so close!

Bossi has said he is really conservative on his ranking because he is local to him and hasn't been seen a ton in the AAU circuit.

@stunns

TownieCat · « **Reply #1148 on:** March 05, 2015, 11:35:52 AM »

Any other townies going to the 2A tourney next week to watch DWade? The boys play on Wed, Fri, Sat.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #1149 on:** March 05, 2015, 11:37:34 AM »

Quote from: TownieCat on March 05, 2015, 11:35:52 AM

Any other townies going to the 2A tourney next week to watch DWade? The boys play on Wed, Fri, Sat.

I would highly consider attending a St John vs Central Plains title game.