Game 5: GW Peggy Po's Nancy Neg's

[sys]

Question; have you guys watched our perimeter defense in the past?

they haven't, _fan.  they've probably been golfing.

[sys]

The defense was very very good last night.

yes.  basically, all of our guards are decent to fine perimeter defenders.  it's hilarious to hear them being attacked after a game that kstate pretty much won because of perimeter defense.

[sys]

#teamangel's poor on-ball defense technique. I do agree in part that a lot of it is just getting rid of high school habits, but some is also getting used to the speed and ability of D1 guards. I think he'll eventually figure it out this year.

don't agree, at all.  his d technique is good, his feet are good, his speed and ability are good.  he knows how to defend already, he doesn't have to figure anything out, he just has to stop sticking his hand on guys.  when he did it last night, it wasn't even because he was beat and trying to keep from looking stupid.  it was just bad luck/habit, he was guarding fine and just got his hands out.  it's not going to take him until the end of the year to stop that.  he's already not doing it anywhere near as much as 2 games ago.

[kougar24]

#teamangel's poor on-ball defense technique. I do agree in part that a lot of it is just getting rid of high school habits, but some is also getting used to the speed and ability of D1 guards. I think he'll eventually figure it out this year.

don't agree, at all.  his d technique is good, his feet are good, his speed and ability are good.  he knows how to defend already, he doesn't have to figure anything out, he just has to stop sticking his hand on guys.  when he did it last night, it wasn't even because he was beat and trying to keep from looking stupid.  it was just bad luck/habit, he was guarding fine and just got his hands out.  it's not going to take him until the end of the year to stop that.  he's already not doing it anywhere near as much as 2 games ago.

Habit is exactly right. Angel and #teamangel will be just fine.

[kso_FAN]

#teamangel's poor on-ball defense technique. I do agree in part that a lot of it is just getting rid of high school habits, but some is also getting used to the speed and ability of D1 guards. I think he'll eventually figure it out this year.

don't agree, at all.  his d technique is good, his feet are good, his speed and ability are good.  he knows how to defend already, he doesn't have to figure anything out, he just has to stop sticking his hand on guys.  when he did it last night, it wasn't even because he was beat and trying to keep from looking stupid.  it was just bad luck/habit, he was guarding fine and just got his hands out.  it's not going to take him until the end of the year to stop that.  he's already not doing it anywhere near as much as 2 games ago.

I didn't really mean his feet, etc. necessarily, more that he doesn't completely understand the big picture concepts, where to funnel to help, etc. Therefore he gets caught and puts his hands on people.

Question; have you guys watched our perimeter defense in the past?

they haven't, _fan.  they've probably been golfing.

Man. Was that necessary? Man.

[Dr Rick Daris]

#teamangel's poor on-ball defense technique. I do agree in part that a lot of it is just getting rid of high school habits, but some is also getting used to the speed and ability of D1 guards. I think he'll eventually figure it out this year.

don't agree, at all.  his d technique is good, his feet are good, his speed and ability are good.  he knows how to defend already, he doesn't have to figure anything out, he just has to stop sticking his hand on guys.  when he did it last night, it wasn't even because he was beat and trying to keep from looking stupid.  it was just bad luck/habit, he was guarding fine and just got his hands out.  it's not going to take him until the end of the year to stop that.  he's already not doing it anywhere near as much as 2 games ago.

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he wanted nothing to do with underwood trying to assertively talk to him after he was called for that in the second half last night up by half court. was funny.

[kougar24]

#teamangel's poor on-ball defense technique. I do agree in part that a lot of it is just getting rid of high school habits, but some is also getting used to the speed and ability of D1 guards. I think he'll eventually figure it out this year.

don't agree, at all.  his d technique is good, his feet are good, his speed and ability are good.  he knows how to defend already, he doesn't have to figure anything out, he just has to stop sticking his hand on guys.  when he did it last night, it wasn't even because he was beat and trying to keep from looking stupid.  it was just bad luck/habit, he was guarding fine and just got his hands out.  it's not going to take him until the end of the year to stop that.  he's already not doing it anywhere near as much as 2 games ago.

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he wanted nothing to do with underwood trying to assertively talk to him after he was called for that in the second half last night up by half court. was funny.

[catzacker]

Question; have you guys watched our perimeter defense in the past?

they haven't, _fan.  they've probably been golfing.

Man. Was that necessary? Man.

he's just mad at ksu football and scott drew's baylor bears being top10(ish) teams and has chosen to take it out on you. 

[DQ12]

I just want to say that the original post was very good.

 

[fun muffin]

Martavious is the most improved player this season.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Again, content like this makes my premium subscription so worthwhile.

Is there a reason that Jamar keeps trying to dribble the basketball? I think he should stop trying to do this. I think he finishes around the rim about like he did 2 years ago.

I cringed every time 1 of our bigs put it on the floor in traffic underneath the hoop last night  

Get comfy with this.  JO is much better at dribbling than some above give him credit for and the early returns on Gip doing the same are great.  I don't see any reason at all for them to stop.  I fact, I think they need to do it more under the right match ups.

I'll give you Gip. I can't remember anything good happening when Jamar tried to dribble.

[kso_FAN]

Speaking of dribbling, one of the biggest  of the night was Southy's attempt to go coast to coast.

[CNS]

Again, content like this makes my premium subscription so worthwhile.

Is there a reason that Jamar keeps trying to dribble the basketball? I think he should stop trying to do this. I think he finishes around the rim about like he did 2 years ago.

I cringed every time 1 of our bigs put it on the floor in traffic underneath the hoop last night  

Get comfy with this.  JO is much better at dribbling than some above give him credit for and the early returns on Gip doing the same are great.  I don't see any reason at all for them to stop.  I fact, I think they need to do it more under the right match ups.

I'll give you Gip. I can't remember anything good happening when Jamar tried to dribble.

I noted JO(jordan) not jamar.

[Kat Kid]

KK, I was with you until the very end on the tempo talking point. When the tempo got sped up is when we destroyed them at the beginning of the 2nd half (a recurring theme).

We did have some nice breaks, but it was not due to their backcourt press.

[pissclams]

The defense was very very good last night.

yes.  basically, all of our guards are decent to fine perimeter defenders.  it's hilarious to hear them being attacked after a game that kstate pretty much won because of perimeter defense.

they were missing open shots

[pissclams]

NN: Gipson trimmed his beard

[steve dave]

NN: Gipson trimmed his beard

yes definite nn. 

also, agree with dlew.  always look forward to kk's PP/NN post game breakdown.

[FP TC etc.]

NN: The game on ESPN3 was all small and weird.

[slimz]

It would be fantastic if Gipson develops into some kind of supercombo of David Hoskins/DeJuan Blair.

[sys]

yes.  basically, all of our guards are decent to fine perimeter defenders.  it's hilarious to hear them being attacked after a game that kstate pretty much won because of perimeter defense.

they were missing open shots

they hit open shots too, i'm not referencing how kstate defended the 3 pt line, i'm referencing how the gw guards were unable to run their offense because of the pressure from the kstate guards.

[pissclams]

good grief, are you some sort of scientist?  i certainly hope not  

[sys]

you're funny.  you're a funny man, mr. pissclams.

[_33]

I think our defense is meant to disrupt offenses and funnel guards into the lane where they can make mistakes (get blocked, turn it over, get a charge called on them, etc.). Because of our pressure you're going to give up some kick-out 3's but not allowing the other team to run their offense over the course of the game is the bigger factor.

Maybe. I don't know.

[kougar24]

KK, I was with you until the very end on the tempo talking point. When the tempo got sped up is when we destroyed them at the beginning of the 2nd half (a recurring theme).

We did have some nice breaks, but it was not due to their backcourt press.

It's not really about breaks, it's about our guys functioning more comfortably in transition sets rather than having to worry about where to go next, whom to look for, etc. We are far better even with outside shots in a transition setting before the offense is set.

I don't recall GW's full-court pressure bothering us at all, to be honest. Jamar's turnover was simply a gamble by GW and Jamar sticking his head up his ass.

[Kat Kid]

KK, I was with you until the very end on the tempo talking point. When the tempo got sped up is when we destroyed them at the beginning of the 2nd half (a recurring theme).

We did have some nice breaks, but it was not due to their backcourt press.

It's not really about breaks, it's about our guys functioning more comfortably in transition sets rather than having to worry about where to go next, whom to look for, etc. We are far better even with outside shots in a transition setting before the offense is set.

I don't recall GW's full-court pressure bothering us at all, to be honest. Jamar's turnover was simply a gamble by GW and Jamar sticking his head up his ass.

You're right.  At the end of the game, the pressure did not bother us as much.  Then again, we were up 12-17 points at home.  I'm saying I think it would've been a better strategy for GW to pursue on both ends.  That #3 Taylor or whatever should've been beating us down court all night.