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Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« on: November 28, 2011, 10:22:34 AM »
In late October ISU looked like they might win 4 games after starting Big 12 play with 4 lopsided losses. However, Rhodes did his thing with a win at Tech, and then the shocker over OSU. They competed in Norman and had an unimpressive win against KU mixed in and in many ways their formula has been similar to ours; a strong running game featuring the option, a good return game, and taking advantage of turnovers. In fact probably the key features to their 3 game winning streak were running for 200 yards in each game (nearly 400 vs Tech) and being +2 in TOs in each of their wins over Tech and OSU.

However, ISU has some key weaknesses; namely an inability to score on offense (#114 in points per play at .30) and a very high rate of turning the ball over (#114 in TOs per play at .034). They have only scored over 30 points twice in Big 12 play and have had 3 or more TOs in 8 of their 12 games. Defensively they have been similar to K-State; slightly better in YPP and PPP given up, but slighly worse in forcing TOs. They are also similar in the return game both offensively and defensively, however they have not scored on a return and have given up return points.

ISU is good enough to compete and win in Manhattan, but it will take K-State having uncharacteristic mistakes in at least 2 phases (and probably all 3) to lose this game. ISU likely has to win TO margin by +2/3, win special teams, AND be much more explosive on offense than they've been in any other game. I just don't see all those things happening; K-State's experience, a much more efficient offense, and a chance at a Big 12 title will be too much for ISU to overcome.

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Cyclones 17

Key per play stats:

ISU Off yards per play: 4.97 (#100)
ISU Off points per play: .30 (#108)
ISU Off TOs per possession: .034 (#114)
ISU return game yards per return (KO and Punt): 20.17 (#17)

ISU Def YPP: 5.66 (#75)
ISU Def PPP: .38 (#63)
ISU Def TO forced PP: .034 (#38)
ISU return def YPR: 15.91 (#22)

KSU Off YPP: 4.91 (#104)
KSU Off PPP: .48 (#27)
KSU Off TOPP: .017 (#12)
KSU Ret YPP: 21.46 (#5)

KSU Def YPP: 5.75 (#81)
KSU Def PPP: .40 (#74)
KSU Def TOFPP: .031 (#25)
KSU Ret Def YPP: 16.45 (#28)


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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2011, 10:27:04 AM »
thanks, go cats.

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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2011, 10:27:32 AM »
You bastard!  you put it in the middle!   :chainsaw:
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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2011, 10:28:43 AM »
we really haven't played a cold game yet, they've played two in a row.  makes me nervous.

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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2011, 10:31:09 AM »
You bastard!  you put it in the middle!   :chainsaw:

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we really haven't played a cold game yet, they've played two in a row.  makes me nervous.

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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2011, 10:38:38 AM »
We're going to mop the floor with these losers.


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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2011, 10:42:46 AM »
We're going to mop the floor with these losers.

I hope we do, but it will probably be competitive. I could see it going similar to ISU's game with aTm.

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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2011, 10:43:56 AM »


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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2011, 10:47:14 AM »
Totally juked out by _FAN and his score in the middle.  Embarassing.

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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2011, 11:45:33 AM »
:confidence rising:

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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2011, 11:51:33 AM »
And never forget what's on the line:






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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2011, 11:55:36 AM »
And never forget what's on the line:







We really need to be able to access the ksufans.com archives. This stuff is priceless.

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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2011, 11:59:17 AM »
I don't comprehend _FANalyses unless they are in podcast form.

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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2011, 12:00:01 PM »
Farmageddon spawned a great art movement.



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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2011, 12:01:51 PM »
ksu cat emaws win by 84 while resting all of our good players

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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2011, 12:56:16 PM »
Where is Havs?

Would be nice to have his input on all of this.

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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2011, 12:57:12 PM »
Where is Havs?

Would be nice to have his input on all of this.

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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2011, 12:58:49 PM »
can't wait for this weekend's epic walking taco PAK.  it's going to be so epic.  WTP. 


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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2011, 01:35:27 PM »
Kinda forgot there is a game this weekend.  I have been tied up on the Cotton Bowl website scoping out the best seats in Jerry World.



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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2011, 01:37:42 PM »
can't wait for this weekend's epic walking taco PAK.  it's going to be so epic.  WTP. 

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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2011, 02:02:54 PM »
can't wait for this weekend's epic walking taco PAK.  it's going to be so epic.  WTP. 

deets pleez

basically think of the last walking taco PAK that we all attended and then rename it Walking Taco PAK ALPHA and you've got this weekend's Walking Taco PAK ALPHA


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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2011, 02:03:43 PM »
of course, at WTPA, all the mistakes we made at the WTP 1.0 will be erased from memory


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Re: Will we win Sat vs ISU?
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2011, 05:23:55 PM »
Love how the weird dude s alliance is ambiguous