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[kso_FAN]

Seems like climbing higher in the BCS then getting the shaft, going to the Cotton Bowl and winning is the best for us in the long run. Need to play the underdog for respect thing as long as possible

EDIT: forgot to mention that this is best bet to win a computer national championship..."K-State, the virtual national champion"

Big 12 Title.

I just want to hear "Here comes your co-Big 12 Champion Kansas State Wildcats taking the field here at the _______ Bowl. This should be a dandy of a ballgame."

Boomer.

[CNS]

810 swearing up and down this morning that we cannot get a share of title due to secondary tie breaks 

[Rage Against the McKee]

810 swearing up and down this morning that we cannot get a share of title due to secondary tie breaks 

Well, that's not surprising.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Anybody have thoughts on who we would play in a BCS bowl that would not humiliate us on national TV? We need a winnable bowl game. Do not care if it is BCS.

Whatever shitty team that comes out of the Big East would be the easiest. Other than that, Virginia Tech or the Big 10 champ should be pretty winnable. The worst case scenario would be Oregon.

[bigwillie20]

Effective June 2011

The following procedure will determine the Big 12 Conference representative to the Bowl Championship Series in the event of a first-place tie:

If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.

If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 4 will be followed until a determination is made. Once a team has been eliminated from a multi-team comparison, it is dropped from further comparisons. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.

1.  The records of the three teams will be compared against each other
2.  The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in the conference
3.  The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative, unless the two highest ranked tied teams are ranked within one spot of the other in the BCS poll. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two highest ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the Bowl Championship Series.
4.  The representative will be chosen by draw

[CNS]

Effective June 2011

The following procedure will determine the Big 12 Conference representative to the Bowl Championship Series in the event of a first-place tie:

If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.

If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 4 will be followed until a determination is made. Once a team has been eliminated from a multi-team comparison, it is dropped from further comparisons. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.

1.  The records of the three teams will be compared against each other
2.  The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in the conference
3.  The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative, unless the two highest ranked tied teams are ranked within one spot of the other in the BCS poll. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two highest ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the Bowl Championship Series.
4.  The representative will be chosen by draw

I am probably Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) here, but wouldn't #2 in the above scenario make us sole champs if OU beats OSU and we beat ISU? 

[Rage Against the McKee]

Effective June 2011

The following procedure will determine the Big 12 Conference representative to the Bowl Championship Series in the event of a first-place tie:

If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.

If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 4 will be followed until a determination is made. Once a team has been eliminated from a multi-team comparison, it is dropped from further comparisons. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.

1.  The records of the three teams will be compared against each other
2.  The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in the conference
3.  The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative, unless the two highest ranked tied teams are ranked within one spot of the other in the BCS poll. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two highest ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the Bowl Championship Series.
4.  The representative will be chosen by draw

I am probably Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) here, but wouldn't #2 in the above scenario make us sole champs if OU beats OSU and we beat ISU? 

No, because our 0-2 record against OU and OSU would eliminate us at #1. I made the key phrase in that bold, though. There is no tiebreaker for Big 12 Champs. If we tie, we are champs.

[Cire]

STAND UP!

BOOMER SOONER!

[kso_FAN]

 

[8manpick]

Effective June 2011

The following procedure will determine the Big 12 Conference representative to the Bowl Championship Series in the event of a first-place tie:

If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.

If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 4 will be followed until a determination is made. Once a team has been eliminated from a multi-team comparison, it is dropped from further comparisons. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.

1.  The records of the three teams will be compared against each other
2.  The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in the conference
3.  The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative, unless the two highest ranked tied teams are ranked within one spot of the other in the BCS poll. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two highest ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the Bowl Championship Series.
4.  The representative will be chosen by draw

I am probably Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) here, but wouldn't #2 in the above scenario make us sole champs if OU beats OSU and we beat ISU? 

No, because our 0-2 record against OU and OSU would eliminate us at #1. I made the key phrase in that bold, though. There is no tiebreaker for Big 12 Champs. If we tie, we are champs.

Pretty sure that step one would not eliminate us. It says "The records of the three teams will be compared against each other" (7-2, 7-2, 7-2), not "the records of the three teams against each other would be compared against each other (2-0, 1-1, 0-2).  Still doesn't seem to have anything to do with sole big 12 champs, but could mean automatic Fiesta maybe?  Not really sure how #2 would be applied.

[cvmcat]

Effective June 2011

The following procedure will determine the Big 12 Conference representative to the Bowl Championship Series in the event of a first-place tie:

If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.

If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 4 will be followed until a determination is made. Once a team has been eliminated from a multi-team comparison, it is dropped from further comparisons. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.

1.  The records of the three teams will be compared against each other
2.  The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in the conference
3.  The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative, unless the two highest ranked tied teams are ranked within one spot of the other in the BCS poll. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two highest ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the Bowl Championship Series.
4.  The representative will be chosen by draw

I am probably Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) here, but wouldn't #2 in the above scenario make us sole champs if OU beats OSU and we beat ISU?  

No, because our 0-2 record against OU and OSU would eliminate us at #1. I made the key phrase in that bold, though. There is no tiebreaker for Big 12 Champs. If we tie, we are champs.

Pretty sure that step one would not eliminate us. It says "The records of the three teams will be compared against each other" (7-2, 7-2, 7-2), not "the records of the three teams against each other would be compared against each other (2-0, 1-1, 0-2).  Still doesn't seem to have anything to do with sole big 12 champs, but could mean automatic Fiesta maybe?  Not really sure how #2 would be applied.

Your arguement is redundant.  It would be a tie BECAUSE we would all be 7-2 in conference.  However, if your interpretation is to compare OVERALL records, that's an arguement that can be made.  We'd still all be 10-2 and we'd move on to step #2.  Still don't think this has any bearing on who gets a trophy, only who gets the automatic bid to the BCS.

[EMAW SP8]

Effective June 2011

The following procedure will determine the Big 12 Conference representative to the Bowl Championship Series in the event of a first-place tie:

If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.

If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 4 will be followed until a determination is made. Once a team has been eliminated from a multi-team comparison, it is dropped from further comparisons. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.

1.  The records of the three teams will be compared against each other
2.  The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in the conference
3.  The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative, unless the two highest ranked tied teams are ranked within one spot of the other in the BCS poll. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two highest ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the Bowl Championship Series.
4.  The representative will be chosen by draw

I am probably Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) here, but wouldn't #2 in the above scenario make us sole champs if OU beats OSU and we beat ISU?  

No, because our 0-2 record against OU and OSU would eliminate us at #1. I made the key phrase in that bold, though. There is no tiebreaker for Big 12 Champs. If we tie, we are champs.

Pretty sure that step one would not eliminate us. It says "The records of the three teams will be compared against each other" (7-2, 7-2, 7-2), not "the records of the three teams against each other would be compared against each other (2-0, 1-1, 0-2).  Still doesn't seem to have anything to do with sole big 12 champs, but could mean automatic Fiesta maybe?  Not really sure how #2 would be applied.

Your arguement is redundant.  It would be a tie BECAUSE we would all be 7-2 in conference.  However, if your interpretation is to compare OVERALL records, that's an arguement that can be made.  We'd still all be 10-2 and we'd move on to step #2.  Still don't think this has any bearing on who gets a trophy, only who gets the automatic bid to the BCS.

  He is saying that the records against the other tied teams (ou, and osu) would be the deciding factor, it wouldnt be our overall record in this situation, sort of along the same lines as the tie breaker for when tech, texas, and ou all tied to win the south (tech beat texas, texas beat ou, and ou beat tech) then it went to the highest ranked in the BCS. Except theirs was to get into the championship game, dont know if that makes a difference

[OK_Cat]

hey dumbasses,

that tiebreaker has nothing to do with crowning a champ.  it says so it big letters, it's for bcs purposes.

if all 3 teams finish 10-2, then tiebreaker #2 will decide.  As of right now, that means that the next highest placed team in the conference is Baylor.  OSU and KSU both beat Baylor, so OU is out.  That means it's OSU head to head against KSU, so they get the conference's BCS spot.


Really not that hard, dumbasses.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Right, but what's the rule that says we're co-Big 12 champs just because we finish with the same record? The only thing I've been able to cite so far is www.goEMAW.com.

If we get a trophy, great, but until I hear somebody with authority actually confirm this, I'm not buying it.

[steve dave]

Right, but what's the rule that says we're co-Big 12 champs just because we finish with the same record? The only thing I've been able to cite so far is www.goEMAW.com.

If we get a trophy, great, but until I hear somebody with authority actually confirm this, I'm not buying it.

saying "goEMAW isn't somebody with authority" is like saying "I'm a stupid dumbass and I want to get smashed in the face"

[wes mantooth]

Right, but what's the rule that says we're co-Big 12 champs just because we finish with the same record? The only thing I've been able to cite so far is www.goEMAW.com.

If we get a trophy, great, but until I hear somebody with authority actually confirm this, I'm not buying it.

continue being a stupid dipcrap then

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Right, but what's the rule that says we're co-Big 12 champs just because we finish with the same record? The only thing I've been able to cite so far is www.goEMAW.com.

If we get a trophy, great, but until I hear somebody with authority actually confirm this, I'm not buying it.

saying "goEMAW isn't somebody with authority" is like saying "I'm a stupid dumbass and I want to get smashed in the face"

Fair point, fair point. But if we don't get a trophy, are we going to start a collection to buy one?

[kso_FAN]

Fair point, fair point. But if we don't get a trophy, are we going to start a collection to buy one?

Did you read this above?

The following procedure will determine the Big 12 Conference representative to the Bowl Championship Series in the event of a first-place tie:

That is directly from the Big 12 website. And all you have to do to confirm is look at Big 12 history; KU's trophies in 05 and 08 in basketball even though they were the 2 seed in the tournament. K-State's four Big 12 North titles even though we only played in 2 championship games. This is not hard.

So our only choice is to root for OU and do this:

[DQ12]

Oh my.  Why hello there, little fella!

[Dr Rick Daris]

 

[kslim]

that is fantastic

[steve dave]

 

[SkinnyBenny]

Oh goodness.


 

[mocat]

never in the history of the world has there been anyone better at calming the waters than _FAN

[kstater]

Holy crap.