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[michigancat]

I personally like what is going on.  I enjoy watching these tryouts.  I also enjoy the crap out of conf ball under Frank.

Tryouts is a great way to put it. Long stretches with odd/bad lineups against shitty competition is a better use of those horrible games than playing the best possible lineup and winning by 50.

[pissclams]

I would also like to say that I have really enjoyed the evolution of "Frank Apologists" throughout this thread.

Great work 'clams.

i love threads like these when i get to channel my inner-dax.  we all have one.

[MakeItRain]

Belvis Noland is a crap poster.  Seriously dude shut up about being entertained, no one gives a eff.  It sounds like your problem could be solved by keeping your whiny ass in Kansas City until February.  You not being entertained is your problem, no one elses.

Look, I get the internet tough guy meme.  But tough guy doesn't have to be synonomous with dumbass.  

My point is pretty simple.  And if you weren't being intentionally Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), I think you'd probably get it.  I don't expect to win every game.  And I don't think that slow starts will ruin our post-season chances.  

I just think it's possible that we could be better prepared to play basketball in the non-con.  I think that in year 5 of Martin's program, we could and should be a bit more disciplined and fundamentally sound.  And I think a lot of that comes from the coach.    

If you don't want CSU to go on a 25-2 run going into halftime, maybe you should tweak the lineup or the offense.  Maybe a lineup of Jeremy Jones, Martavious Irving, Vic Ojeley, Omare Lawrence, and Thomas Gipson isn't a sensible combination.  

Again, I don't care if we win by 50 points or 5 points.  I just want to watch a good, entertaining game of basketball that is well-played on both ends of the floor.  And, yes, I consider up-tempo, aggressive JYC performances "well-played" basketball.  Just seems, IMO, that quality basketball is a foreign concept in too much of our non-con.  I don't think it has to be this way every year.  I think our teams can be better prepared to perform.  What will our excuse be next year, when we return the entire team?  

I'm absolutely not an internet tough guy, I'm praying you go to MOAP 2.5 where you will inevitably say something stupid and so I can tell you to your face how stupid it is.

You don't understand that Frank is sacrificing your November fun and joy for February success, it has happened literally every single year.  So either you are too dumb to understand, too selfish to spare us the unnecessary whining or both.  This extended temper tantrum you are throwing over a 2-0 basketball team that will play nearly 35 games is embarrassing.  You're talking about tweaking lineups and the such, what in the hell do you think he is using these games for?  Yes we look like crap, I'm stunned why anyone would think it matters at this point.  

[MakeItRain]

Belvis Noland is a crap poster.  Seriously dude shut up about being entertained, no one gives a eff.  It sounds like your problem could be solved by keeping your whiny ass in Kansas City until February.  You not being entertained is your problem, no one elses.

you absolutely cannot make posts like this. i get the minority "chip on shoulder" aspect of things, but man.

 

[WillieWatanabe]

I have no clue whose side i'm on.

brb, gonna go look up the word Apologist.

[pissclams]

Yes we like crap, I'm stunned why anyone would think it matters at this point.  

OMG MiR likes crap!

 

gross.  MiR, really friggin gross.

[kso_FAN]

Heck, I'm easy. I'm not going to jump off #teamfrank until he loses or destroys the program. But I'm a bad apologist to look at, I was on #teamwooly longer than 99% of K-State fans.

[MakeItRain]

Yes we like crap, I'm stunned why anyone would think it matters at this point.  

OMG MiR likes crap!

 

gross.  MiR, really friggin gross.

You beat me by 29 seconds, if I weren't a remedial reader I would have been faster, don't be so mean Mr. clams.

[Trim]

I'm absolutely not an internet tough guy, I'm praying you go to MOAP 2.5 where you will inevitably say something stupid and so I can tell you to your face how stupid it is.

Do not want.

[Trim]

Heck, I'm easy. I'm not going to jump off #teamfrank until he loses or destroys the program. But I'm a bad apologist to look at, I was on #teamwooly longer than 99% of K-State fans.

Only because it's hard to pronounce FWN.

[Belvis Noland]

Tryouts is a great way to put it. Long stretches with odd/bad lineups against shitty competition is a better use of those horrible games than playing the best possible lineup and winning by 50.

Trying out new players is one thing.  Trotting out nonsensical lineups is another thing.  Like, for instance, a lineup with no point guard is kind of stupid no matter who the coach is.  

Anyway, I get that Frank is letting some of these dudes sink or swim, which I'm okay with.  

And, yeah, I know we aren't returning this entire roster.  We have a revolving door of JuCo guys.  Take a flyer on a JuCo guy.  if he pans out great.  if not, move him out.  Watson, Jones, and Lawrence are all on the fence.  If we need room for a good highschool recruit, Frank won't even blink an eye at cutting the JuCo guys.  Which, again, I'm fine with.  

[OK_Cat]

i remember seeing MIR at the OSU bball game in Stillwater and he was real life PI'ing some old broad.  

[Trim]

i remember seeing MIR at the OSU bball game in Stillwater and he was real life PI'ing some old broad. 

[MakeItRain]

I have no clue whose side i'm on.

brb, gonna go look up the word Apologist.

Also look up contrarian and short-termed memory having dumbasses.

Did you know that people with Asperger's Syndrome frequently have the inability to see the big picture?

[michigancat]

Tryouts is a great way to put it. Long stretches with odd/bad lineups against shitty competition is a better use of those horrible games than playing the best possible lineup and winning by 50.

Trying out new players is one thing.  Trotting out nonsensical lineups is another thing.  Like, for instance, a lineup with no point guard is kind of stupid no matter who the coach is.  

Are you really so dense that you can't figure out why it might be a good idea to try out guys like Martavious and Jones at PG against a shitty team? Really?

[CNS]

During the year different packages will give us advantages at certain points in certain games.  There is no such thing as a nonsensical line up in the sporting world we all live in these days. 

[pissclams]

frankologist:  it's ok to overreact to a bad early season football game but criticize being down +15 to charleston southern and generally having our hoops team looking like crap in november.

[kitten_mittons]

frankologist:  it's ok to overreact to a bad early season football game but criticize being down +15 to charleston southern and generally having our hoops team looking like crap in november.

A loss in football is much more important than a loss in BBall.  Damnit, why am I even typing this?    How are you doing it to make us keep responding to you.  Damn.

[pissclams]

 

[MakeItRain]

frankologist:  it's ok to overreact to a bad early season football game but criticize being down +15 to charleston southern and generally having our hoops team looking like crap in november.

A loss in football is much more important than a loss in BBall.  Damnit, why am I even typing this?    How are you doing it to make us keep responding to you.  Damn.

:takesbait:

[wabash909]

I was on #teamwooly longer than 99% of K-State fans.

Yes you were, and it was very sad for all of us.

[wabash909]

I'd also like to add, that I'm starting to think that Jeremy Jones might actually be decent for us.

As in much better than Martavius.  And I kinda like that.

[CNS]

I'd also like to add, that I'm starting to think that Jeremy Jones might actually be decent for us.

As in much better than Martavius.  And I kinda like that.

 

Look, he may end up that way, but his upside doesn't reconcile his level of liability right now.  Tay's does.

[pissclams]

what's jones weigh in at, 145 lbs?  ya, ol' Wal-Mart is going to get shoved around like a ragdoll when we get done playing against the sisters of the poor.

[wabash909]

what's jones weigh in at, 145 lbs?  ya, ol' Wal-Mart is going to get shoved around like a ragdoll when we get done playing against the sisters of the poor.

He's got good speed and he seems like he can shoot.  I like him.  So sue me.