2-0 is two and o

[fatty fat fat]

good job everyone.

[OlatheWildcat]

Congrats 

[kso_FAN]

1st   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   34   0.81   47.9%   29.0%   31.3%   58.3%
Opp   34   0.67   34.6%   31.9%   31.3%   26.9%

2nd   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   35   1.33   59.3%   20.3%   53.8%   66.7%
Opp   35   1.10   47.6%   23.2%   41.7%   104.8%

Total   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   69   1.06   53.9%   24.5%   41.4%   62.7%
Opp   69   0.88   40.4%   27.3%   35.7%   61.7%

More JYC-ish, still a long way to go.

[kso_FAN]

Surprised how much Frank cut down the rotation, mainly stuck with 6 guys.

[Skipper44]

Surprised how much Frank cut down the rotation, mainly stuck with 6 guys.

Good sign Frank admits the margin of error with this team is quite small.  a immoral loss would be disaster for ncaa hopes

[kso_FAN]

Surprised how much Frank cut down the rotation, mainly stuck with 6 guys.

Good sign Frank admits the margin of error with this team is quite small.  a immoral loss would be disaster for ncaa hopes

Yeah, we need Samuals back badly. And I hope he really is better.

[MakeItRain]

Surprised how much Frank cut down the rotation, mainly stuck with 6 guys.

Good sign Frank admits the margin of error with this team is quite small.  a immoral loss would be disaster for ncaa hopes

Or a sign that two starters are out and he wasn't particularly pleased how others are practicing.  There's no such thing as a disastrous loss for NCAA hopes in November.  Two years ago Syracuse lost to D2 Lemoyne they went into the tournament as favorites with KU.  Last year Butler lost to Evansville in November.  There of examples every year of good teams with bad losses in November.  This isn't football.

[Ira Hayes]

Why aren't we getting more out of JO?

[MakeItRain]

Why aren't we getting more out of JO?

He's essentially had a double double each game, what are you expecting?

[Ira Hayes]

Why aren't we getting more out of JO?

He's essentially had a double double each game, what are you expecting?

More than 5 shots per game. 

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I hope Avercamp and his elbows get in a head on collision on the bus ride back to Loyola.  mongoloid wannabe psycho T-lite

[kim carnes]

Surprised how much Frank cut down the rotation, mainly stuck with 6 guys.

Good sign Frank admits the margin of error with this team is quite small.  a immoral loss would be disaster for ncaa hopes

Or a sign that two starters are out and he wasn't particularly pleased how others are practicing.  There's no such thing as a disastrous loss for NCAA hopes in November.  Two years ago Syracuse lost to D2 Lemoyne they went into the tournament as favorites with KU.  Last year Butler lost to Evansville in November.  There of examples every year of good teams with bad losses in November.  This isn't football.

Those are example of good teams with bad losses.  We aren't good, so we can't afford bad losses.  To a certain extent you are correct, because good non-con wins are more important than bad losses.

[jtksu]

The pt is that a single bad loss doesn't kill you like it does in football.  Syracuse and Butler were both good teams that overcame bad losses and still had good seeds.  A team like ours could still take a bad loss and wind up in the tourney as a lower seed though.

[kitten_mittons]

The pt is that a single bad loss doesn't kill you like it does in football.  Syracuse and Butler were both good teams that overcame bad losses and still had good seeds.  A team like ours could still take a bad loss and wind up in the tourney as a lower seed though.

I'm pretty sure that Syracuse loss was exhibition, though.

[MakeItRain]

The pt is that a single bad loss doesn't kill you like it does in football.  Syracuse and Butler were both good teams that overcame bad losses and still had good seeds.  A team like ours could still take a bad loss and wind up in the tourney as a lower seed though.

I'm pretty sure that Syracuse loss was exhibition, though.

The pt is that a single bad loss doesn't kill you

Yeah I'm aware Lemoyne was an exhibition, I did point out they are a D2.  The sake people who think a game in November matters are the same who would think a D2 loss would he held against a team in the selection room.  If you are on the bubble you have double digit losses, pointing to one in November would be dumb.

[hemmy]

I knew this was a fatty thread just from the title

[bakerman]

Why aren't we getting more out of JO?

He's essentially had a double double each game, what are you expecting?

More than 5 shots per game. 

JFC really? A double double isn't enough for you? I will be ecstatic if he can average a double double for the whole year.

[mocat]

Why aren't we getting more out of JO?

He's essentially had a double double each game, what are you expecting?

More than 5 shots per game. 

JFC really? A double double isn't enough for you? I will be ecstatic if he can average a double double for the whole year.

yes

[Panjandrum]

Why aren't we getting more out of JO?

He's essentially had a double double each game, what are you expecting?

More than 5 shots per game. 

JFC really? A double double isn't enough for you? I will be ecstatic if he can average a double double for the whole year.

I'm not sure that I want to see the kinds of shots JO would take if he's up to ten shots a game.  Not yet at least.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I love it when JO drives down the lane for a dunk, even when he misses it.

[michigancat]

LMAO at anyone thinking November basketball can make or break your NCAA tourney chances. Did the last four seasons of the KSU Cats teach you people nothing?

Never mind. Don't answer that. It's obvious they didn't.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

LMAO at anyone thinking November basketball can make or break your NCAA tourney chances. Did the last four seasons of the KSU Cats teach you people nothing?

This is 100% accurate only if you're in a BCS conf.

[kim carnes]

LMAO at anyone thinking November basketball can make or break your NCAA tourney chances. Did the last four seasons of the KSU Cats teach you people nothing?

Never mind. Don't answer that. It's obvious they didn't.

Uhhh... yeah, we nearly missed the tournament with Beasley because of a shitty non-con and we did miss it when Pullen was a soph because of shitty non-con.

[MakeItRain]

LMAO at anyone thinking November basketball can make or break your NCAA tourney chances. Did the last four seasons of the KSU Cats teach you people nothing?

Never mind. Don't answer that. It's obvious they didn't.

Uhhh... yeah, we nearly missed the tournament with Beasley because of a shitty non-con and we did miss it when Pullen was a soph because of shitty non-con.

We lost three early season games in 08-09 and had five bad losses.  Of course if you completely crap the bed in the non con you can get buried.  I thought it was pretty obvious that we were referring to the notion that one or even two early season losses can cost you anything.

[michigancat]

LMAO at anyone thinking November basketball can make or break your NCAA tourney chances. Did the last four seasons of the KSU Cats teach you people nothing?

Never mind. Don't answer that. It's obvious they didn't.

Uhhh... yeah, we nearly missed the tournament with Beasley because of a shitty non-con and we did miss it when Pullen was a soph because of shitty non-con.

Dear dumbass,

KSU's NCAA tournament status was not decided by December 1 either of those years. Plenty of opportunities for quality wins in February and March that were pissed away both of those seasons that could have made KSU NCAA locks. Please try to keep up.

Love,
Michigancat