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Exhibition Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
« on: November 07, 2011, 11:45:47 AM »
Peggy Po's

-Gipson is going to be a load.  His conditioning is bad.  Subbed out three times because he was completely gassed and lacksadaisical on one end, but did not get yanked for some mistake.  He took himself out once.  He played some decently sized bigs physically, but I could see him struggling against length.  He is not confident/aggressive enough about getting a shot in the lane from the block.  Is not establishing himself enough physically, too willing to fade away or throw a little hook without movement toward the basket.  Hopefully he works on this.  On the positive side, he has a very, very polished touch and appears to have some decent skills in the mid range.

-Angel of Doom with a great debut.  Not nearly as fast as I might've thought but a very good first step, very good ball control.  Able to knock down open shots and good distribution.  Very exciting.  Frank praised his diligent shooting over the summer.

-Will Spradling is our rock.  I am astounded.  One thing that must be said: these Mo-Kan kids are Big 12 ready.  Will going down with the injury and going back to the locker room with two Hinkins was terrifying.  His return was much appreciated, but it is still a little scary.  He plays defense, he runs the offense and he has developed an ability to hit shots off screens.  He had a very nice sequence when he hit one just off the top of the key and then later hit a nice shot at the elbow.

-Our tiny dancer had a nice little ball game.  I am very worried about Martavious.  With all the other combos and small-bigs that Frank can Frank around with, my precious is under threat.  Please no.  Please no.  He played a lot of minutes, but this was largely because Rodney had a stinker, Will had an injury and it was a 30 point blowout.  He had the highlight of the game and is overall a very enjoyable presence in nearly every category.

-JO is not the skinniest big any more.  It must feel great.  He is a legit Big 12 7 footer.  He is extremely active on the boards.  He is a defensive presence in the lane.  He has learned how to use his height.  He has some moves in the post and is so long that he can always find a shot.  He doesn't make himself small any more.  I am being very positive!  He is going to get hacked alot this year and if he shoots that poorly from the line it may not be a terrible strategy, but I think he'll get better.

-"looking good Frank" gave him the wink and gunshot and he appreciated/chuckled.  In the post-game, Frank described the team's preparation and effort game being as though it were a regular season game and went on to criticize the students for not showing up.  However, the exhibition feel was apparent in the steve dave resort wear guayabera.

Nancy Neg's

-Jamar being Jamar.

-Rodney played like crap.  It was a little disconcerting to see Rodney struggle like that.  He got yanked because he let his offense affect his defense.  Just had a really terrible game.  Ended up down the bench commiserating with Shane Southwell.  Those two should not have anything to talk about.  Please Rod, don't.

-Victor Ojeleye not sure if this was just a Frank moment, if he took most of Jamar's minutes, if he took most of Rod's minutes.  Not sure if this was some sort of Semi bone getting thrown.  Any way you slice it, it sucked.  I actually like Vic because he seems to realize that he kind of sucks.  His Victor wince face tells me this.  Chris Merriweather or Clent Stewart never seemed to have that level of self-awareness.  Well, make the most of it Vic.  Turn evil.  Start throwing elbows and jawing at the competition.  Something.

-Shane being Shane.

-Omari/Nino.  Oh what hijinks these two will get up to.  I'm kind of hoping Jamar takes him under his wing and tells them all about how to piss off Frank.  Wait, no I don't.  Maybe they realize that there are a ton of minutes out there when people go in to Frank's dog house and start working really hard.  Or maybe they look at the roster and transfer.  I hope we have some junkyard cats in the making.  However, that recipe takes 1 year to bake.

-Tall Skinny guy.  Welp, hopefully you turn in to JO.  No one will really be expecting that, but good luck.


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Re: Exhibition Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2011, 11:50:57 AM »
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-Omari/Nino.  Oh what hijinks these two will get up to.  I'm kind of hoping Jamar takes him under his wing and tells them all about how to piss off Frank.  Wait, no I don't.  Maybe they realize that there are a ton of minutes out there when people go in to Frank's dog house and start working really hard.  Or maybe they look at the roster and transfer.  I hope we have some junkyard cats in the making.  However, that recipe takes 1 year to bake.

This sucked. I really had high hopes for Nino. I didn't really for EMAPE, but he looked great in the scrimmage.

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Re: Exhibition Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2011, 11:53:51 AM »
i always enjoy the peggy pos but never so much the nancy negs

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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2011, 11:54:10 AM »
Diaz's hands belong in the Peggy Po's.  Once he stops being an 18yo 7'er he could be really good.

Omari is big and showed signs of being aggressive.  I think if he doesn't turn Jamar'ish, he could do well.

V disappointed that Nino didn't get anything other than junk minutes.

Fully agree on Sprads.

Angel isn't as fast as most people thought, because most wanted him to be Denis, and he isn't.  He is much more like Jake in skill set.

Also, we will be able to run this year.  Should have been a huge Peggy Po.  Only thing that may hold this back is Gip's lungs.

My main concern is our physicality in the post during conf and being pushed around.  W/O Gip in, we may be running a whole lot of high post.

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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2011, 11:55:58 AM »
It looked like we spent a lot of practice on our transition game.

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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2011, 11:56:36 AM »
new skinny guy is also pretty good on fast break.  kk's nancy neg of him is off imo. 

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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2011, 12:02:35 PM »
That Jones kid is pretty fast.  I kept calling him "The Jet" throughout the game.  I'd say that should probably be his nickname.

We need to call Omari and Big_Gip the Bash Brothers.  They have the exact same body and look like they would love to crush people.

The PA guy referring to JHR as JO?  Holy moly.  I did not expect that.  Thought it was great though.  Could you imagine him dunking on a bitch to cap off a 15 point run, with the introduction to Sandstorm faintly being heard and him shouting "JAAYYYYYYYY-O!" into the mic?  Can't wait for that.

I like that Angel has tattoos.  I do.  Really.  I just wish he had more tattoos.

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Re: Exhibition Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2011, 12:07:50 PM »
I enjoyed both the peggy po's AND the nancy neg's.

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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2011, 12:08:23 PM »
Good stuff.

All I really looked at is who looks to be major players in Frank's rotation (besides the times when Frank decides to be Frank).

Sprads, McGruds, Irving, JO look to be the key returners. And probably Jamar if he quits being Jamar.

Angel and Gip look like they can play, but like most FR will be a bit up and down.

There is 7, then you have to figure on a couple more making the move into Frank's regular rotation, though that might not be set until late January or early February with Frank.  It will be interesting to see who works themselves up there. I'd think Southwell would factor in considering he did last year. After that I really don't know, at least based on just the Hays game.

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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2011, 12:36:19 PM »
Diaz's hands belong in the Peggy Po's.  Once he stops being an 18yo 7'er he could be really good.

Omari is big and showed signs of being aggressive.  I think if he doesn't turn Jamar'ish, he could do well.

V disappointed that Nino didn't get anything other than junk minutes.

Fully agree on Sprads.

Angel isn't as fast as most people thought, because most wanted him to be Denis, and he isn't.  He is much more like Jake in skill set.

Also, we will be able to run this year.  Should have been a huge Peggy Po.  Only thing that may hold this back is Gip's lungs.

My main concern is our physicality in the post during conf and being pushed around.  W/O Gip in, we may be running a whole lot of high post.

I want to believe this, but I don't really believe it yet.  JO runs very well, for a 7 footer.  Angel and Will leading the way on the break?  Meh.  We do have a tremendous amount of ball handlers, but I think you will see most fast breaks go in to a 3 pointer, or a secondary break after the D beats us back.  We'll get to the line a lot this year, but I don't see this team comparing to the showtime days of Sutton/Denis.  Maybe when Jamar gets back I will change my tune.  Dunno.

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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2011, 12:58:25 PM »
I want to believe this, but I don't really believe it yet.  JO runs very well, for a 7 footer.  Angel and Will leading the way on the break?  Meh.  We do have a tremendous amount of ball handlers, but I think you will see most fast breaks go in to a 3 pointer, or a secondary break after the D beats us back.  We'll get to the line a lot this year, but I don't see this team comparing to the showtime days of Sutton/Denis.  Maybe when Jamar gets back I will change my tune.  Dunno.

Agree with all that. The Frank "we are one of my fastest teams" talking point is one I really, really want to believe, but I didn't see enough to know one way or another if this is really true.

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Re: Exhibition Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2011, 01:18:31 PM »
new skinny guy is also pretty good on fast break.  kk's nancy neg of him is off imo. 

i agree.  AD has tons of upside.

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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2011, 01:21:42 PM »
I want to believe this, but I don't really believe it yet.  JO runs very well, for a 7 footer.  Angel and Will leading the way on the break?  Meh.  We do have a tremendous amount of ball handlers, but I think you will see most fast breaks go in to a 3 pointer, or a secondary break after the D beats us back.  We'll get to the line a lot this year, but I don't see this team comparing to the showtime days of Sutton/Denis.  Maybe when Jamar gets back I will change my tune.  Dunno.

Agree with all that. The Frank "we are one of my fastest teams" talking point is one I really, really want to believe, but I didn't see enough to know one way or another if this is really true.

slowest guys are running point.  Angel isn't slow with the ball but he isn't lightning.  Spradling is Will.

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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2011, 01:25:45 PM »
Angel is fast you idiots.

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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2011, 01:28:22 PM »
Angel is fast you idiots.

I agree, but he isn't "Denis, I'm going to run a 1 man break" fast or at least I didn't see that Sunday. And it will take some time for the rest of the guys to play off of him on the break.

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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2011, 01:30:23 PM »
Angel is fast you idiots.

I agree, but he isn't "Denis, I'm going to run a 1 man break" fast or at least I didn't see that Sunday. And it will take some time for the rest of the guys to play off of him on the break.

he threw, like, 3 fast break lob passes.  pretty great to watch. 

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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2011, 01:32:02 PM »
Angel is fast you idiots.

I agree, but he isn't "Denis, I'm going to run a 1 man break" fast or at least I didn't see that Sunday. And it will take some time for the rest of the guys to play off of him on the break.

he threw, like, 3 fast break lob passes.  pretty great to watch. 

Agree, he looked very good. Better than I anticipated.

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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2011, 01:41:31 PM »
Angel is fast you idiots.

I agree, but he isn't "Denis, I'm going to run a 1 man break" fast or at least I didn't see that Sunday. And it will take some time for the rest of the guys to play off of him on the break.

Comparing all our of guards speed to Denis is like comparing our bigs scoring ability to Beasley.  Pretty stupid.

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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2011, 01:43:03 PM »
Angel is fast you idiots.

I agree, but he isn't "Denis, I'm going to run a 1 man break" fast or at least I didn't see that Sunday. And it will take some time for the rest of the guys to play off of him on the break.

Comparing all our of guards speed to Denis is like comparing our bigs scoring ability to Beasley.  Pretty stupid.

Sorry.

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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2011, 01:46:11 PM »
Angel is fast you idiots.

I agree, but he isn't "Denis, I'm going to run a 1 man break" fast or at least I didn't see that Sunday. And it will take some time for the rest of the guys to play off of him on the break.

Comparing all our of guards speed to Denis is like comparing our bigs scoring ability to Beasley.  Pretty stupid.

Sorry.

But do you see what I'm saying? You could be the fastest player in the conference this year and be quite a bit slower than Denis.

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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2011, 01:49:24 PM »
I really hope Vic becomes a huge trashtalker/dirty player/junk it up doberman.  Is only to save him now.

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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2011, 01:51:12 PM »
Angel is fast you idiots.

I agree, but he isn't "Denis, I'm going to run a 1 man break" fast or at least I didn't see that Sunday. And it will take some time for the rest of the guys to play off of him on the break.

Comparing all our of guards speed to Denis is like comparing our bigs scoring ability to Beasley.  Pretty stupid.

Sorry.

But do you see what I'm saying? You could be the fastest player in the conference this year and be quite a bit slower than Denis.

That's true.  It is also true that last year we had no transition game so anything looks fast now.  The truth is in the middle and I am reserving judgement about where it stands after that.

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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2011, 01:53:51 PM »
Angel is fast you idiots.

I agree, but he isn't "Denis, I'm going to run a 1 man break" fast or at least I didn't see that Sunday. And it will take some time for the rest of the guys to play off of him on the break.

Comparing all our of guards speed to Denis is like comparing our bigs scoring ability to Beasley.  Pretty stupid.

Sorry.

But do you see what I'm saying? You could be the fastest player in the conference this year and be quite a bit slower than Denis.

I completely see what you were saying. I suppose brining up Denis was a bad comparision, but he's THE standard for me on individual speed on the break. FWIW I think comparing one particular skill from our guards (in this case speed) is valid, and much different than comparing ability to score (like your Beasley example) which requires a diverse set of skills.  

All I was saying is that I didn't see that type of speed (not even that he was as fast as Denis, but even approaching that type of speed) for him to lead the break in the same manner as Clemente. That's not to say that Angel can't play fast, he'll likely play faster than Pullen even was able to, but to have the kind of break Frank is talking about I think he needs a guy with Denis' kind of speed, and I don't know that we have that. To be fair, its not probably something that would be easy to see against a team like Hays.

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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2011, 01:55:58 PM »
he'll likely play faster than Pullen even was able to

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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2011, 01:56:43 PM »
Seemed like he has great vision up the floor though. Could make up for a lack of speed? Jake had horrible vision on the fast break.