Official Fire Cosh Thread

[kso_FAN]

Say what you will about the players not being up to par (that's also at least partially Cosh's fault), but the real problem has to be at least partially due to scheme and play calling. Go back and look at the stats from 2009 when Vic was the actual D Cord. The players were equally shitty, if not worse. The offense wasn't eating up 40 min per game. Yet, the defense still wasn't letting every team in the confy set records (2010 everyone set rushing records on us, 2011 it's passing records).

People seem to think that Cosh is doing what he can with what he's got, but I think he's just bad at his job.

Fair point. But this year's Big 12 offenses (yards, points) are much better than in 09 (yards, points). The offensive numbers being put up in this league this year are simply ridiculous, but I agree allowing back to back 500 yard passers is pretty bad.

[Cire]

There is something wrong with the scheme when you get beat in the same mannor again and again

[kso_FAN]

There is something wrong with the scheme when you get beat in the same mannor again and again

The past two weeks were very bad defensively. How we do against aTm will say a lot.

[felix rex]

There is something wrong with the scheme when you get beat in the same mannor again and again

The past two weeks were very bad defensively. How we do against aTm will say a lot.

Yeah. I'm really hoping aTm is emotionally crushed right now.

[catzacker]

There is something wrong with the scheme when you get beat in the same mannor again and again

The past two weeks were very bad defensively. How we do against aTm will say a lot.

compared to their overall average, we "held" osu to about 100 yards less rushing and then let them have 100+ yards more passing.

A&M is 12th in the nation in passing offense (304ypg), 19th in rushing (216ypg).  I see us fairing about the same (though I think A&M will run more on us) as OSU...shutting the run down and letting A&M throw all over us.  We also have to account for the QB this game, haven't really had to since MU.

we get destroyed, absolutely, 100% destroyed in the 10/15yd x 10/15yd window between the LB's and Safeties.  I mean we just get f'ing bent over and owned.  EVERY. SINGLE. GAME.  The safeties are either stretched too far outside the hashes (because they aren't fast enough to get over the top of a go route and have to cheat) or the LB's aren't getting the depth they need (because AB is just awful in pass coverage to begin with and they are so focused on stopping the run they bite on most play action).  

[KSUTOMMY]

I was reflecting on the loss last night and the similiaities to the OU loss. When I look at the wins this year, and we all were so  about them - however NOW looking at the teams we beat - Baylor has fallen off and Tech is in a downward spiral. Miami is just a name these days and the rest of the teams, I feel we should have beat. In looking at the season thus far, I am not sure if we are all that good. Dont get me wrong, I am thrilled to be where we are, but a 0-3 November is a strong possibility if we continue to perform like last night on the defense.

To Dax's point (and it's a damned good one) as long as we dont have quality recruits, get used to this amount of wins and be content with being around 4th place in the league year in and year out. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but that's what we have/will have as long as OBz is here. I'll reserve raising my expectations until after the waters are officially calmed. 

[Dugout DickStone]

I doubt ATM will quit gouging us over the middle the way OSU seemed to strangely do.  Can we count on a LOckett return AND a pick 6 yet again to stay in the game?  Doubt it but who knows at home.

Recruting has to change.  Or this will be the best year under Snyder.

[SdK]

The pick 6 by chapman was about the silliest looking running out of a corner I have ever seen. what does he run a 4.7? It just looked really weird and slow.

[slimz]

We seem to have a lot of issues in the zone coverage transition between our linebackers and safeties. Maybe _FAN could verify this, or is there really anything that can be done about it?

[unleashthemob]

I was reflecting on the loss last night and the similiaities to the OU loss. When I look at the wins this year, and we all were so  about them - however NOW looking at the teams we beat - Baylor has fallen off and Tech is in a downward spiral. Miami is just a name these days and the rest of the teams, I feel we should have beat. In looking at the season thus far, I am not sure if we are all that good. Dont get me wrong, I am thrilled to be where we are, but a 0-3 November is a strong possibility if we continue to perform like last night on the defense.

To Dax's point (and it's a damned good one) as long as we dont have quality recruits, get used to this amount of wins and be content with being around 4th place in the league year in and year out. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but that's what we have/will have as long as OBz is here. I'll reserve raising my expectations until after the waters are officially calmed. 

wow! I. basically made that point on another thread and got crucified in the proces. As long as Snyder is here, so shall his crappy coaches shall be!

[PoetWarrior]

Try.

[fatty fat fat]

I was reflecting on the loss last night and the similiaities to the OU loss. When I look at the wins this year, and we all were so  about them - however NOW looking at the teams we beat - Baylor has fallen off and Tech is in a downward spiral. Miami is just a name these days and the rest of the teams, I feel we should have beat. In looking at the season thus far, I am not sure if we are all that good. Dont get me wrong, I am thrilled to be where we are, but a 0-3 November is a strong possibility if we continue to perform like last night on the defense.

To Dax's point (and it's a damned good one) as long as we dont have quality recruits, get used to this amount of wins and be content with being around 4th place in the league year in and year out. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but that's what we have/will have as long as OBz is here. I'll reserve raising my expectations until after the waters are officially calmed. 

wow! I. basically made that point on another thread and got crucified in the proces. As long as Snyder is here, so shall his crappy coaches shall be!

you got crucified because you are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). you can break down any teams schedule and find flaws with their w's.

we are 7-2. period.

[kim carnes]

I doubt ATM will quit gouging us over the middle the way OSU seemed to strangely do.  Can we count on a LOckett return AND a pick 6 yet again to stay in the game?  Doubt it but who knows at home.

Recruting has to change.  Or this will be the best year under Snyder.

A&M does a lot of strange/dumb things.  Also, their offense started inside our 5 yard line twice.

[SwiftCat]

we get destroyed, absolutely, 100% destroyed in the 10/15yd x 10/15yd window between the LB's and Safeties.  I mean we just get f'ing bent over and owned.  EVERY. SINGLE. GAME.  The safeties are either stretched too far outside the hashes (because they aren't fast enough to get over the top of a go route and have to cheat) or the LB's aren't getting the depth they need (because AB is just awful in pass coverage to begin with and they are so focused on stopping the run they bite on most play action).  

I don't know why teams bother to do anything different. It is really quite pitiful how open the middle of the field is.

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

we get destroyed, absolutely, 100% destroyed in the 10/15yd x 10/15yd window between the LB's and Safeties.  I mean we just get f'ing bent over and owned.  EVERY. SINGLE. GAME.  The safeties are either stretched too far outside the hashes (because they aren't fast enough to get over the top of a go route and have to cheat) or the LB's aren't getting the depth they need (because AB is just awful in pass coverage to begin with and they are so focused on stopping the run they bite on most play action).  

I don't know why teams bother to do anything different. It is really quite pitiful how open the middle of the field is.

Thats no joke. The whole secondary is just out of sync. I'm just on board the fire Cosh bandwagon now.

[0.42]

that's our LUKE!

[KSUTOMMY]

WARM UP THE BANNER!!!

[felix rex]

Say what you will about the players not being up to par (that's also at least partially Cosh's fault), but the real problem has to be at least partially due to scheme and play calling. Go back and look at the stats from 2009 when Vic was the actual D Cord. The players were equally shitty, if not worse. The offense wasn't eating up 40 min per game. Yet, the defense still wasn't letting every team in the confy set records (2010 everyone set rushing records on us, 2011 it's passing records).

People seem to think that Cosh is doing what he can with what he's got, but I think he's just bad at his job.

Fair point. But this year's Big 12 offenses (yards, points) are much better than in 09 (yards, points). The offensive numbers being put up in this league this year are simply ridiculous, but I agree allowing back to back 500 yard passers is pretty bad.

We've also given up at least 575 yards in 3 of the last 4 games.

[5601js]

There is something wrong with the scheme when you get beat in the same mannor again and again

The past two weeks were very bad defensively. How we do against aTm will say a lot.

I agree, but also think our defense matches up better against all three remaining teams than it has the last 2 weeks. Snyder has historically always struggled defending spread offenses that pass the ball quickly. A&M throws it around a lot too, but from what I've seen of them, they are more prone to have 5 and 7 step drops than either OU or OSU does. Our DL aren't good enough to disrupt things against a 3 step drop, and when we blitz, we show blitz way too early and the opposing offense throws it where the blitzer comes from.

With that said, if our DL can't put pressure on Tannahill Saturday, he can torch you pretty good.