Author Topic: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)  (Read 6258 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Saulbadguy

  • Administrator
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • *****
  • Posts: 9939
  • what
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2012, 02:22:32 PM »
For comparison, Topeka's Discovery Center drew 1500 it's opening week (4 days).      That of course is a surge that dropped off significantly.

http://cjonline.com/news/2011-06-04/discovery-center-gets-1500-visitors-4-days
I didn't even know we had one.
Where did you get that overnight bag?

Offline WillieWatanabe

  • PCKK7DC Survivor
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • *******
  • Posts: 19406
  • We'll always have Salt Lake
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2012, 02:23:35 PM »
friend went there over the weekend with their kids. They enjoyed it.
Sometimes I think of the Book of Job and how God likes to really eff with people.
- chunkles

Offline Dugout DickStone

  • Global Moderator
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • *****
  • Posts: 53907
  • BSPAC
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2012, 02:35:54 PM »
Are there nice public restrooms?

This guy I met drinks alcohol all the way from KC to Manhattan on game days and often has to pee right when he gets to town.  The center has a great location and what appears to be ample parking.

Offline 420seriouscat69

  • Don't get zapped! #zap
  • Wackycat
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 63922
  • #1 rated - gE NFL Scout
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2012, 03:02:44 PM »
Are there nice public restrooms?

This guy I met drinks alcohol all the way from KC to Manhattan on game days and often has to pee right when he gets to town.  The center has a great location and what appears to be ample parking.
  :peek:

Offline ednksu

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 9862
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2012, 03:17:16 PM »
per yesterday's Merc:

"For 2012, the center is expected to make $295,000 in admissions revenue and $37,500 for facility usage fees revenue."

Suggested admissions fees: Adults $9  Seniors: $7  Children: $4  School groups: $3  Under 2: FREE

Suggested rental fees: 

"elegant evening" full access (500 people) $2,700 Saturdays, $2,200 all other nights 
small "elegant evening" (200 people) $2,300 Saturdays, $1,800 all other nights
"cocktail reception" 2 hour limit  (350 people) $1,200 (200 people) $1,000
"discovery party" 2 hour limit, exhibits and party room (40 people) $150

so.....

I guess each week we'll have 220 paying families of 4 (or equivalent) strolling through the Discovery Center's door.  Every week.  Considering the population base, the slashed to non-existent field trip budgets for schools, I'd say it is a little optimistic.  But maybe someone else has some more relevant experience?

$721/week is what they are expecting to do as far as the usage fees.  If anyone wants to put the Discovery Center up against the Wareham (approximately $600 with $600 held for incidentals) or the KSU Alumni center for weddings it is not competitive.

I thought it would be embarrassing, but this seems as though it will be a perfect storm of suck.  Someone throw me something positive about this fraud before I have to go down some beers by myself at my fancy Long Johns.

The only hope is the conference center is massively K-Stateo'd too so that some overflow is sent to the Discovery Center meeting rooms. The prices seem to be geared toward corporate events.

I did lol at the DC director claiming they're getting 1 call a week about holding weddings and receptions there. That's 1 call a week with hysterical laughter on the other end.

except they are getting a good response..... :dubious:
Quote from: OregonHawk
KU is right on par with Notre Dame ... when it comes to adding additional conference revenue

Quote from: Kim Carnes
Beer pro tip: never drink anything other than BL, coors, pbr, maybe a few others that I'm forgetting

Offline ednksu

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 9862
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2012, 03:20:06 PM »
The discovery center does a lot of other kinds of stuff too.  And more importantly to some people who have already bitched about it in this thread, your taxes aren't paying for it! (assuming you aren't in hotel rooms)



I know a little bit about the discovery center.  its a good investment if things keep going the way they have been. 

I believe you get a discount as well with the zoo membership but I'm not sure how much it is, there is an association which helps to set this up. 
Quote from: OregonHawk
KU is right on par with Notre Dame ... when it comes to adding additional conference revenue

Quote from: Kim Carnes
Beer pro tip: never drink anything other than BL, coors, pbr, maybe a few others that I'm forgetting

Offline SkinnyBenny

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 16748
  • good time rock-n-roll plastic banana FM type
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2012, 03:27:13 PM »
It looks nice from the outside but it's such a gawd-awful reminder of how we got straight hornswoggled by Dial into becoming Baby Topeka. 

:feelsbadman:
"walking around mhk and crying in the rain because of love lost is the absolute purest and best thing in the world.  i hope i fall in love during the next few weeks and get my heart broken and it starts raining just to experience it one last time."   --Dlew12

Online yoga-like_abana

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 13505
  • Don't @ me boy, cause I ain't said crap
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2012, 03:33:51 PM »
displays are a snooze fest.... I was just invited to a wedding there  :surprised: it is very appeasing from the outside though

Offline ednksu

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 9862
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2012, 04:13:55 PM »
displays are a snooze fest.... I was just invited to a wedding there  :surprised: it is very appeasing from the outside though
why do you hate the environment?

and the displays are actually pretty cool.  There are other things you can do besides looking at the wall art.
Quote from: OregonHawk
KU is right on par with Notre Dame ... when it comes to adding additional conference revenue

Quote from: Kim Carnes
Beer pro tip: never drink anything other than BL, coors, pbr, maybe a few others that I'm forgetting

Offline Matt Siebrant's Left Hand

  • Combo-Fan
  • **
  • Posts: 520
  • I'm a Cat person
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2012, 07:38:36 PM »
Really worried the homeless flock will just jerkoff at this facility.

Offline SkinnyBenny

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 16748
  • good time rock-n-roll plastic banana FM type
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2012, 07:48:56 PM »
Really worried the homeless flock will just jerkoff at this facility.

AND WHO IS THIS POSTER??? Only 169 posts? I am excited about your future, Matt Siebrant's Left Hand.   :thumbs:
"walking around mhk and crying in the rain because of love lost is the absolute purest and best thing in the world.  i hope i fall in love during the next few weeks and get my heart broken and it starts raining just to experience it one last time."   --Dlew12

Offline sonofdaxjones

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 59566
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2012, 08:40:24 PM »
 :dunno:

Offline WildcatNkilt

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 7002
  • Had the worst birthday ever on Dec. 5th of '98.
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2012, 08:48:36 PM »
I was told the building was supposed to represent/look like a tornado.

Every time I come into Manhattan for work I think the tornado thing was a fail.
Kansas City Blue Barbecue fan.

Offline SkinnyBenny

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 16748
  • good time rock-n-roll plastic banana FM type
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2012, 08:55:40 PM »
It kinda does, but only if you approach it from the back. Also the top was meant to suggest the Flint Hills.

Building looks cool. Have no real desire to go in though, and certainly no desire to pay nine bones to look at some weeds or whatever. Would use it to pee after drinking in the car for two hours, though.
"walking around mhk and crying in the rain because of love lost is the absolute purest and best thing in the world.  i hope i fall in love during the next few weeks and get my heart broken and it starts raining just to experience it one last time."   --Dlew12

Online yoga-like_abana

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 13505
  • Don't @ me boy, cause I ain't said crap
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2012, 09:31:53 PM »
displays are a snooze fest.... I was just invited to a wedding there  :surprised: it is very appeasing from the outside though
why do you hate the environment?

and the displays are actually pretty cool.  There are other things you can do besides looking at the wall art.
why are you sooo butthurt that people think it sucks.... and good thing they charge $9 because that will be the only time someone would go there lmao

Offline SkinnyBenny

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 16748
  • good time rock-n-roll plastic banana FM type
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2012, 09:33:54 PM »
Of all the people I wanna pak with, which is very few, Y-L_A is prolly at the top of that list. We'll get smashed at Finn's Pub and then wander over there and vandalize the crap outta that dumb weed museum.
"walking around mhk and crying in the rain because of love lost is the absolute purest and best thing in the world.  i hope i fall in love during the next few weeks and get my heart broken and it starts raining just to experience it one last time."   --Dlew12

Offline ednksu

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 9862
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2012, 09:54:05 PM »
I was told the building was supposed to represent/look like a tornado.

Every time I come into Manhattan for work I think the tornado thing was a fail.
not so much
displays are a snooze fest.... I was just invited to a wedding there  :surprised: it is very appeasing from the outside though
why do you hate the environment?

and the displays are actually pretty cool.  There are other things you can do besides looking at the wall art.
why are you sooo butthurt that people think it sucks.... and good thing they charge $9 because that will be the only time someone would go there lmao
calm the butthurt
« Last Edit: May 09, 2012, 09:56:06 PM by ednksu »
Quote from: OregonHawk
KU is right on par with Notre Dame ... when it comes to adding additional conference revenue

Quote from: Kim Carnes
Beer pro tip: never drink anything other than BL, coors, pbr, maybe a few others that I'm forgetting

Offline SkinnyBenny

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 16748
  • good time rock-n-roll plastic banana FM type
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2012, 09:56:13 PM »
holy crap get that thing to asava's gif thread immediately


:love:
"walking around mhk and crying in the rain because of love lost is the absolute purest and best thing in the world.  i hope i fall in love during the next few weeks and get my heart broken and it starts raining just to experience it one last time."   --Dlew12

Online Stevesie60

  • Fattyfest Champion
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • *****
  • Posts: 17834
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2012, 01:12:25 AM »
Of all the people I wanna pak with, which is very few, Y-L_A is prolly at the top of that list. We'll get smashed at Finn's Pub and then wander over there and vandalize the crap outta that dumb weed museum.


I assume you know y-l_a, but if you don't he is very quiet. It's like, oh hey y-l_a, you're still here? I thought you left like an hour ago. You literally haven't said a word the entire time. How are you so funny when you BBS? I have an idea. Why don't you just write stuff on this notepad. Maybe written communication is all you have. :reads notepad: HAHA! OH MAN, THAT'S GREAT!! HEY GUYS, READ WHAT Y-L_A JUST WROTE ON THIS NOTEPAD!!

Offline WillieWatanabe

  • PCKK7DC Survivor
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • *******
  • Posts: 19406
  • We'll always have Salt Lake
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2012, 07:14:21 AM »
Of all the people I wanna pak with, which is very few, Y-L_A is prolly at the top of that list. We'll get smashed at Finn's Pub and then wander over there and vandalize the crap outta that dumb weed museum.


I assume you know y-l_a, but if you don't he is very quiet. It's like, oh hey y-l_a, you're still here? I thought you left like an hour ago. You literally haven't said a word the entire time. How are you so funny when you BBS? I have an idea. Why don't you just write stuff on this notepad. Maybe written communication is all you have. :reads notepad: HAHA! OH MAN, THAT'S GREAT!! HEY GUYS, READ WHAT Y-L_A JUST WROTE ON THIS NOTEPAD!!

i enjoyed this.
Sometimes I think of the Book of Job and how God likes to really eff with people.
- chunkles

Offline SkinnyBenny

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 16748
  • good time rock-n-roll plastic banana FM type
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2012, 09:03:09 AM »
I do not know Y-l_a.



Not sure if I want to now.   :ohno:
"walking around mhk and crying in the rain because of love lost is the absolute purest and best thing in the world.  i hope i fall in love during the next few weeks and get my heart broken and it starts raining just to experience it one last time."   --Dlew12

Offline Dr Rick Daris

  • Global Moderator
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • *****
  • Posts: 23381
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #46 on: May 10, 2012, 09:14:44 AM »
Of all the people I wanna pak with, which is very few, Y-L_A is prolly at the top of that list. We'll get smashed at Finn's Pub and then wander over there and vandalize the crap outta that dumb weed museum.


I assume you know y-l_a, but if you don't he is very quiet. It's like, oh hey y-l_a, you're still here? I thought you left like an hour ago. You literally haven't said a word the entire time. How are you so funny when you BBS? I have an idea. Why don't you just write stuff on this notepad. Maybe written communication is all you have. :reads notepad: HAHA! OH MAN, THAT'S GREAT!! HEY GUYS, READ WHAT Y-L_A JUST WROTE ON THIS NOTEPAD!!

oh man. do me now.

Offline Rage Against the McKee

  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • ****
  • Posts: 38010
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2012, 09:17:59 AM »
Of all the people I wanna pak with, which is very few, Y-L_A is prolly at the top of that list. We'll get smashed at Finn's Pub and then wander over there and vandalize the crap outta that dumb weed museum.


I assume you know y-l_a, but if you don't he is very quiet. It's like, oh hey y-l_a, you're still here? I thought you left like an hour ago. You literally haven't said a word the entire time. How are you so funny when you BBS? I have an idea. Why don't you just write stuff on this notepad. Maybe written communication is all you have. :reads notepad: HAHA! OH MAN, THAT'S GREAT!! HEY GUYS, READ WHAT Y-L_A JUST WROTE ON THIS NOTEPAD!!

y-l_a sounds like a pretty smart person irl.

Online Stevesie60

  • Fattyfest Champion
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • *****
  • Posts: 17834
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #48 on: May 10, 2012, 09:35:01 AM »
Of all the people I wanna pak with, which is very few, Y-L_A is prolly at the top of that list. We'll get smashed at Finn's Pub and then wander over there and vandalize the crap outta that dumb weed museum.


I assume you know y-l_a, but if you don't he is very quiet. It's like, oh hey y-l_a, you're still here? I thought you left like an hour ago. You literally haven't said a word the entire time. How are you so funny when you BBS? I have an idea. Why don't you just write stuff on this notepad. Maybe written communication is all you have. :reads notepad: HAHA! OH MAN, THAT'S GREAT!! HEY GUYS, READ WHAT Y-L_A JUST WROTE ON THIS NOTEPAD!!

oh man. do me now.

Well this is how it's felt the past couple of weeks.

"Hey Stevesie!"
"Oh, hey rick daris. My wife and I were just finishing up our dinner here at Harry's. Good to see you here"
"Can I get the check for you?"
"Well, that's completely unnecessary. We can...."
"I'll get it for you. Waitress, just put their stuff on my tab. Anyways, what are you guys up to tonight?"
"Well we were going to go see a movie....."
"Can I pay for your tickets? Here, here's $30. Get some popcorn too"
"I......"
"Oh man, I almost forgot. Here's $50 so you can fill up your car with gas. Wouldn't want you to run out on the other side of town would we? Good seeing you, Stevesie. We should do this more often"

Offline Trim

  • Global Moderator
  • Pak'r Élitaire
  • *****
  • Posts: 42623
  • Pfizer PLUS Moderna and now Pfizer Bivalent
    • View Profile
Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #49 on: May 10, 2012, 09:35:41 AM »
:sdeek: