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4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« on: November 01, 2011, 08:47:05 PM »
per yesterday's Merc:

"For 2012, the center is expected to make $295,000 in admissions revenue and $37,500 for facility usage fees revenue."

Suggested admissions fees: Adults $9  Seniors: $7  Children: $4  School groups: $3  Under 2: FREE

Suggested rental fees:  

"elegant evening" full access (500 people) $2,700 Saturdays, $2,200 all other nights  
small "elegant evening" (200 people) $2,300 Saturdays, $1,800 all other nights
"cocktail reception" 2 hour limit  (350 people) $1,200 (200 people) $1,000
"discovery party" 2 hour limit, exhibits and party room (40 people) $150

so.....

I guess each week we'll have 220 paying families of 4 (or equivalent) strolling through the Discovery Center's door.  Every week.  Considering the population base, the slashed to non-existent field trip budgets for schools, I'd say it is a little optimistic.  But maybe someone else has some more relevant experience?

$721/week is what they are expecting to do as far as the usage fees.  If anyone wants to put the Discovery Center up against the Wareham (approximately $600 with $600 held for incidentals) or the KSU Alumni center for weddings it is not competitive.

I thought it would be embarrassing, but this seems as though it will be a perfect storm of suck.  Someone throw me something positive about this fraud before I have to go down some beers by myself at my fancy Long Johns.


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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2011, 08:50:35 PM »
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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2011, 12:42:54 AM »
so rough ridin' stupid.  open it up for free, send the $6/year subsidy bill to every man, woman and child in the city and have people actually use the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing.

same with the zoo.
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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2011, 06:31:10 AM »
Really just the shitty cherry on top of a giant pile of human crap.  FYBS (bob strawn).
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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2011, 02:22:32 PM »
For comparison, Topeka's Discovery Center drew 1500 it's opening week (4 days).      That of course is a surge that dropped off significantly.

http://cjonline.com/news/2011-06-04/discovery-center-gets-1500-visitors-4-days

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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2011, 02:32:26 PM »
For comparison, Topeka's Discovery Center drew 1500 it's opening week (4 days).      That of course is a surge that dropped off significantly.

http://cjonline.com/news/2011-06-04/discovery-center-gets-1500-visitors-4-days

Man, that sounds like a decent turnout for a town of 125,000 people.  Wonder what ours will do after everyone's been through once.

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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2011, 02:39:17 PM »
WGAF?  We are rich.

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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2011, 02:47:29 PM »
so rough ridin' stupid.  open it up for free, send the $6/year subsidy bill to every man, woman and child in the city and have people actually use the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing.

same with the zoo.

the zoo is a great bargain. family year pass for like fifty bucks and it gets you half off to other zoos all over the country. love the zoo. huge zoogoer.

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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2011, 02:54:31 PM »
zoo memberships are almost always a great bargain.

thanks for the tip, rick.

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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2011, 02:59:48 PM »
zoo memberships are almost always a great bargain.

thanks for the tip, rick.

You know who loves zoos?  Kids.  KIDS?  gmafb

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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2011, 03:00:12 PM »
looks a lot cooler than it did before

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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2011, 03:01:41 PM »
what kid doesn't like a science fair?



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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2011, 03:02:57 PM »
zoo memberships are almost always a great bargain.

thanks for the tip, rick.

You know who loves zoos?  Kids.  KIDS?  gmafb

exactly my point.  no kids?  no to a new zoo tax.  hey people with kids, suck it and pay for your own damn crap.  that's what i always say.


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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2011, 03:38:08 PM »
zoo memberships are almost always a great bargain.

thanks for the tip, rick.

You know who loves zoos?  Kids.  KIDS?  gmafb

exactly my point.  no kids?  no to a new zoo tax.  hey people with kids, suck it and pay for your own damn crap.  that's what i always say.

You texted me that exact thing like a month ago.

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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2011, 04:35:57 PM »
This is why the education tax went down in flames in Colorado yesterday.  I get sick of seeing things like my town building a new "rec center" only to find out it's just an overgrown Romper Room. 

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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2011, 05:01:29 PM »
zoo memberships are almost always a great bargain.

thanks for the tip, rick.

You know who loves zoos?  Kids.  KIDS?  gmafb

exactly my point.  no kids?  no to a new zoo tax.  hey people with kids, suck it and pay for your own damn crap.  that's what i always say.

You texted me that exact thing like a month ago.

i guess you just let it go in one ear and out the other b/c then you asked me the other day what my main saying was.  it was like you almost forgot my main saying. 


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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2011, 05:25:18 PM »
per yesterday's Merc:

"For 2012, the center is expected to make $295,000 in admissions revenue and $37,500 for facility usage fees revenue."

Suggested admissions fees: Adults $9  Seniors: $7  Children: $4  School groups: $3  Under 2: FREE

Suggested rental fees:  

"elegant evening" full access (500 people) $2,700 Saturdays, $2,200 all other nights  
small "elegant evening" (200 people) $2,300 Saturdays, $1,800 all other nights
"cocktail reception" 2 hour limit  (350 people) $1,200 (200 people) $1,000
"discovery party" 2 hour limit, exhibits and party room (40 people) $150

so.....

I guess each week we'll have 220 paying families of 4 (or equivalent) strolling through the Discovery Center's door.  Every week.  Considering the population base, the slashed to non-existent field trip budgets for schools, I'd say it is a little optimistic.  But maybe someone else has some more relevant experience?

$721/week is what they are expecting to do as far as the usage fees.  If anyone wants to put the Discovery Center up against the Wareham (approximately $600 with $600 held for incidentals) or the KSU Alumni center for weddings it is not competitive.

I thought it would be embarrassing, but this seems as though it will be a perfect storm of suck.  Someone throw me something positive about this fraud before I have to go down some beers by myself at my fancy Long Johns.

The only hope is the conference center is massively K-Stateo'd too so that some overflow is sent to the Discovery Center meeting rooms. The prices seem to be geared toward corporate events.

I did lol at the DC director claiming they're getting 1 call a week about holding weddings and receptions there. That's 1 call a week with hysterical laughter on the other end.

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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2011, 07:04:04 PM »
 is this the new building on the west side of the 177 bridge as you come into town?

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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2011, 07:07:36 PM »
is this the new building on the west side of the 177 bridge as you come into town?

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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2011, 07:11:12 PM »
i'm glad that i'm no longer a townie.  manhattan is way too controversial for me.

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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2011, 11:15:26 AM »
I would bet Manhattan ends up taxing the crap out of all the new NBAF employees.  Mayor Quimby style.


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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2012, 02:06:58 PM »
Very nice building.  Bought some Kansas tchotchkes at the gift shop.  Displays are aimed at kids.  Hope it does well.
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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2012, 02:10:04 PM »
man its awful

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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2012, 02:12:37 PM »
man its awful

What, the displays?  I like the building itself.  And it looks nice as a "gateway" to MHK.
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Re: 4th St. Discovery Center (Dax/Townie bait)
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2012, 02:19:19 PM »
I heard they had their first wedding reception there this past weekend. :cheers: