Author Topic: National Statistics. (Read 6113 times)

sonofdaxjones · « **on:** October 30, 2011, 07:52:14 AM »

Total Defense 60th

Pass Efficiency Defense 80th

Pass Defense 103rd

Rushing Defense 17th (but why bother throwing if you have a good passing attack)

Scoring Defense 47th (still not bad . . . yet)

Rushing Offense 20th

Passing Offense 113th

Scoring Offense 43rd

Sacks Allowed 92nd (that plummeted after 7 sacks yesterday).

Turnover Margin 8th (still pretty good)

Net Punting 55th

Punt Returns 65th

KO Returns 3rd

Saulbadguy · « **Reply #1 on:** October 30, 2011, 08:05:10 AM »

Well, we have improved...that's the point, right?

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #2 on:** October 30, 2011, 08:11:08 AM »

Quote from: Saulbadguy on October 30, 2011, 08:05:10 AM

Well, we have improved...that's the point, right?

Sure but barring a major overhaul, the defensive stats are going to be worse after next Saturday, the only hope is if the offense gets its issues corrected. OSU's defense thrives on turnovers but they can be moved on . . . thing is Slothfense was completely exposed in the 2nd half yesterday.

Landry Jones had a 191.3 passing rating yesterday.

KSUTOMMY · « **Reply #3 on:** October 30, 2011, 08:53:49 AM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on October 30, 2011, 08:11:08 AM

Quote from: Saulbadguy on October 30, 2011, 08:05:10 AM
Well, we have improved...that's the point, right?
Landry Jones had a 191.3 passing rating yesterday.

Trim · « **Reply #4 on:** October 30, 2011, 09:32:31 AM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on October 30, 2011, 08:11:08 AM

the defensive stats are going to be worse after next Saturday,

IT AIN'T HAPPENIN' AGAIN

KSUTOMMY · « **Reply #5 on:** October 30, 2011, 09:46:32 AM »

Quote from: Trim on October 30, 2011, 09:32:31 AM

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on October 30, 2011, 08:11:08 AM
the defensive stats are going to be worse after next Saturday,

IT AIN'T HAPPENIN' AGAIN

I love your sarcasm, Trim!

felix rex · « **Reply #6 on:** October 30, 2011, 10:10:36 AM »

Texas A&M plays OU in Norman next week. They're currently last (120th) in passing defense. They'll probably get lit up again. We could easily give up 500 again. If Memphis has a decent week (currently 119th), the Big 12 could have the two lowest ranked passing defenses in the country. We could potentially have all three, but Iowa State is more likely to run for 400 yards against KU (118th).

Regardless, we could easily drop next week to the 115 range in passing and the 75-80 range in total defense. Tack on another 500-600 yards versus A&M (#7 total offense) the week after that, and we're looking at taking over their last place spot in passing defense (because they'll definitely benefit from only giving up 150 yards against us) and dropping into the 90s in total defense.

felix rex · « **Reply #7 on:** October 30, 2011, 10:13:41 AM »

55 points from OSU and 45 from A&M (seems pretty reasonable) and we're looking at dropping into the 85 range in scoring defense, too.

chum1 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 30, 2011, 10:15:44 AM »

if that happens, cosh will get fired, for sure.

Trim · « **Reply #9 on:** October 30, 2011, 10:16:03 AM »

Quote from: KSUTOMMY on October 30, 2011, 09:46:32 AM

Quote from: Trim on October 30, 2011, 09:32:31 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on October 30, 2011, 08:11:08 AM
the defensive stats are going to be worse after next Saturday,

IT AIN'T HAPPENIN' AGAIN

I love your sarcasm, Trim!

Not sarcasm. When was the last time you walked into a locker room after giving up 59 points, KSUTOMMY?

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DScottFritchen Walking behind LHC Bill Snyder and the team as it heads into locker room, a player yells, "THIS AIN'T HAPPENIN' AGAIN!" #kstate

felix rex · « **Reply #10 on:** October 30, 2011, 10:21:38 AM »

Quote from: chum1 on October 30, 2011, 10:15:44 AM

if that happens, cosh will get fired, for sure.

Personally, I never thought he was old enough OR white enough for the job.

catzacker · « **Reply #11 on:** October 30, 2011, 12:59:05 PM »

Other fun stats:

- we've beaten 2 teams all season that currently has an > .500 overall record (Tech and Baylor...I'd imagine that stat dwindles as the season goes on) and 0 teams with an >.500 conf record.

- we've played 4 of the 5 bottom half teams in the conf and have faced only 1 team in the top half of the conference (OU).

How do you spell "improvement"? S-C-H-E-D-U-L-E.

Go Genius!

fatty fat fat · « **Reply #12 on:** October 30, 2011, 01:40:02 PM »

Quote from: catzacker on October 30, 2011, 12:59:05 PM

Other fun stats:

- we've beaten 2 teams all season that currently has an > .500 overall record (Tech and Baylor...I'd imagine that stat dwindles as the season goes on) and 0 teams with an >.500 conf record.

- we've played 4 of the 5 bottom half teams in the conf and have faced only 1 team in the top half of the conference (OU).

How do you spell "improvement"? S-C-H-E-D-U-L-E.

Go Genius!

Pretty much every 7-1 team has the same credentials, but you already knew that.

The strange way you people deal with these losses.

FP TC etc. · « **Reply #13 on:** October 30, 2011, 01:42:29 PM »

Quote from: fatty fat fat on October 30, 2011, 01:40:02 PM

Quote from: catzacker on October 30, 2011, 12:59:05 PM
Other fun stats:

- we've beaten 2 teams all season that currently has an > .500 overall record (Tech and Baylor...I'd imagine that stat dwindles as the season goes on) and 0 teams with an >.500 conf record.

- we've played 4 of the 5 bottom half teams in the conf and have faced only 1 team in the top half of the conference (OU).

How do you spell "improvement"? S-C-H-E-D-U-L-E.

Go Genius!

Pretty much every 7-1 team has the same credentials, but you already knew that.

The strange way you people deal with these losses.

No kidding. To each his own I guess.

DQ12 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 30, 2011, 01:46:25 PM »

Quote from: fatty fat fat on October 30, 2011, 01:40:02 PM

Quote from: catzacker on October 30, 2011, 12:59:05 PM
Other fun stats:

- we've beaten 2 teams all season that currently has an > .500 overall record (Tech and Baylor...I'd imagine that stat dwindles as the season goes on) and 0 teams with an >.500 conf record.

- we've played 4 of the 5 bottom half teams in the conf and have faced only 1 team in the top half of the conference (OU).

How do you spell "improvement"? S-C-H-E-D-U-L-E.

Go Genius!

Pretty much every 7-1 team has the same credentials, but you already knew that.

The strange way you people deal with these losses.

I can't believe people have the nerve to be upset with where the 2011 K-State football team currently resides.

We're going to have 8+ wins in the regular seasons and people are going to be irate. Unbelievable.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #15 on:** October 30, 2011, 01:54:11 PM »

People have plenty of reason to be Irate . . . I didn't expect K-State to win the game, but what yesterday solidified is that this coaching staff is not capable of recruiting the athletes needed to every take the next step. Apparently most K-State fans are fine with that, and I would be fine with that as well. If all everyone wants is 7-5 seasons at best, then lets go hire a young up and comer (in a real coaching search), save about $500K a year, get things like "Gridiron" films and be more fan friendly and more exciting to the national media . . . oh and to go with that $500K comment, quit handing millions over (combined) to build the Snyder family cofers which are already stuffed with millions of K-State's dollars as it is right now.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #16 on:** October 30, 2011, 01:57:27 PM »

Seven wins was a realistic goal that Snyder should have had to reach to keep his job after this season. Eight wins shows improvement, but it's nothing to get too worked up about. Nine wins would be fantastic.

Cosh is a bad defensive coordinator regardless of what happens this season, though. One good season doesn't replace a horrible career.

FP TC etc. · « **Reply #17 on:** October 30, 2011, 02:09:11 PM »

Serious question here... do people still use "coffers"?

wetwillie · « **Reply #18 on:** October 30, 2011, 02:11:19 PM »

Snyder has done a great job this year but he still needs to have the majority of fans light a fire under his ass and hold him accountable. His sole purpose is to get the roster back to bcs caliber level and make the job attractive for the next guy. If he can't parlay this years success into measureable gains in recruiting we aren't really making progress towards our long term future.

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #19 on:** October 30, 2011, 02:24:24 PM »

grats beems.

fatty fat fat · « **Reply #20 on:** October 30, 2011, 02:24:56 PM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on October 30, 2011, 01:54:11 PM

People have plenty of reason to be Irate . . . I didn't expect K-State to win the game, but what yesterday solidified is that this coaching staff is not capable of recruiting the athletes needed to every take the next step. Apparently most K-State fans are fine with that, and I would be fine with that as well. If all everyone wants is 7-5 seasons at best, then lets go hire a young up and comer (in a real coaching search), save about $500K a year, get things like "Gridiron" films and be more fan friendly and more exciting to the national media . . . oh and to go with that $500K comment, quit handing millions over (combined) to build the Snyder family cofers which are already stuffed with millions of K-State's dollars as it is right now.

honestly , if we finish 9-3 that is the "next step"

there is a massive difference between 7-5 (last year) and 9-3.

If we get destroyed vs OSU, i will agree a bit more with you. I didn't like the 2nd half at all either.

catzacker · « **Reply #21 on:** October 30, 2011, 02:39:59 PM »

Quote from: fatty fat fat on October 30, 2011, 01:40:02 PM

Quote from: catzacker on October 30, 2011, 12:59:05 PM
Other fun stats:

- we've beaten 2 teams all season that currently has an > .500 overall record (Tech and Baylor...I'd imagine that stat dwindles as the season goes on) and 0 teams with an >.500 conf record.

- we've played 4 of the 5 bottom half teams in the conf and have faced only 1 team in the top half of the conference (OU).

How do you spell "improvement"? S-C-H-E-D-U-L-E.

Go Genius!

Pretty much every 7-1 team has the same credentials, but you already knew that.

The strange way you people deal with these losses.

Yesterday hurt bad. I wanted to buy in. I really did. Wins vs. aggs and ut would still do it.

DQ12 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 30, 2011, 03:02:40 PM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on October 30, 2011, 01:54:11 PM

People have plenty of reason to be Irate . . . I didn't expect K-State to win the game, but what yesterday solidified is that this coaching staff is not capable of recruiting the athletes needed to every take the next step. Apparently most K-State fans are fine with that, and I would be fine with that as well. If all everyone wants is 7-5 seasons at best, then lets go hire a young up and comer (in a real coaching search), save about $500K a year, get things like "Gridiron" films and be more fan friendly and more exciting to the national media . . . oh and to go with that $500K comment, quit handing millions over (combined) to build the Snyder family cofers which are already stuffed with millions of K-State's dollars as it is right now.

With all due respect, you're off your rocker. Prior to the season most K-State fans recognized that 7-5 is okay this year. If you thought 7-5 would be a disappointment, you were completely irrational.

Well, here we are, at 7-1.

The second half was disappointing yesterday, but these games happen, especially when programs are trying to build. Look at the early-mid 90s teams. Those teams put together good seasons with measurable progress in the win-loss columns as time progressed, but every once in a while, usually against Nebraska, they'd get completely humiliated. Hell, the 97 team lost to Nebraska by 30 points.

Games like these happen, sometimes.

catzacker · « **Reply #23 on:** October 30, 2011, 03:18:51 PM »

with the convenience of hindsight and the gift of foresight...I'll point out that the "teams from the early 90's" had coaches like Bob, Mike, Brent, Leavitt, even Mang....this staff has joe bob, michael smith, chris cosh, and sean snyder. I mean, the idea that this team is like any team we had in the early/mid 90's is batsh*t crazy imo. the program is not like it was in the early/mid 90's because we aren't building anything (see the coaches we had then vs. now).

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #24 on:** October 30, 2011, 05:34:39 PM »

No, I am not off my rocker. This staff needs to elevate their level of recruiting, they've done a nice job of coaching'em up, but it's time to get rid of some the old guard and bring in some younger coaches who are recruiting machines . . . and of course I must always put in the disclaimer that this doesn't mean I (and people like me) expect an avalanche of 4 and 5 stars. We just need to start landing MORE guys that other BCS schools want, and fewer (I didn't say NONE) guys "we saw on film when scouting somebody else"

In addition, Snyder must fully embrace all facility upgrades no matter how inconvenient they are for him and the football team.