Tension...

[BigCat]

...you could cut with a knife. Everybody here afraid to start hbbiq discussion about what's going to go down in that piss pit on Weds. night. Posters obviously under extreme stress, not quite ready to relinquish to wild emotional swings. Godspeed.


 

[Pete]

...you could cut with a knife. Everybody here afraid to start hbbiq discussion about what's going to go down in that piss pit on Weds. night. Posters obviously under extreme stress, not quite ready to relinquish to wild emotional swings. Godspeed.


 

Nailed it.

[OK_Cat]

I'd like to think that most posters here have accepted that we aren't winning the game.  

[catzacker]

ksu starts out cold from the field, ku doesn't.  games over at the 10 minute mark of the first half. 

[canadian_breeze]

I'd like to think that most posters here have accepted that we aren't winning the game.  

even my lbbiq thinks we have a very slim chance of victory

[ZmoneyKSU]

I find it cute that some people actually think discussing the outcome of this game is worthwhile. 

[RonLongshaft]

I find it cute that some people actually think discussing the outcome of this game is worthwhile. 

what would you rather talk about then?

[Testy Westy]

ksu starts out cold from the field, ku doesn't.  games over at the 10 minute mark of the first half. 

way to go out on a limb there considering this has happened the last three years or whatever

[_33]

There isn't a chance in hell that Pullen isn't in 100% awe of Allen Fieldhouse and the atmosphere he will be right in the middle of. He will probably look around and say to himself "wow, this is sherron collins' place, you know, the same sherron collins that will most likely be wrapping up his 4 big 12 title in four years, the same all american collins that has a national championship ring, the same collins that has a chance a being the most winning player in basketball history.........i'm guessing he is gonna be impressed

[kso_FAN]

Not too much to discuss, prob need 50-60 from Pullen-Clemente to win it.

[fatty fat fat]

yeah, perfect situation for the dorks that seem to inhabitant this board.

we're probably going to win wednesday.

['taterblast]

 

[Dugout DickStone]

Not too much to discuss, prob need 50-60 from Pullen-Clemente to win it.

yup, need a big game from both speedy armsleeve and sexxy face.

[kso_FAN]

Not too much to discuss, prob need 50-60 from Pullen-Clemente to win it.

yup, need a big game from both speedy armsleeve and sexxy face.

Yeah.  Not to mention that if KU has a weakness defensively, its that they've allowed opponents to shoot pretty well from 3 against them at 34%.

One of the key factors in the first game was that we had our worst game allowing offensive rebounds vs KU, but that evened up a bit b/c we were better on the offensive glass than they were.  We also managed to force KU into one of their worst TO% games as well.  Maybe most importantly, they had a FTR of 61%, nearly double our FTR of 33% and a better eFG%.   

I'd say the keys for us are to get into at least the mid-40% numbers for our own FTR without allowing them much more than what they had last time (I'm conceding that they'll have a higher FTR), staying even on the offensive glass, and most importantly hitting shots.  A eFG% of 50% and offerall offensive efficiency of at least 115 is probably mininimum to win in Lawrence.

[michigancat]

I don't like talking about losses.

[ZmoneyKSU]

I find it cute that some people actually think discussing the outcome of this game is worthwhile. 

what would you rather talk about then?

 

[kso_FAN]

And play at least a little bit of defense.

Our best def efficiency/eFG% in the Huggs/Frank era was 122/54.2 in Beasley's year.  124/63.5 last year.  And under Huggs an incredible 132/59.6.  

I'd say the goal should be under 120/50 to make it a game.

[catzacker]

we have to score the ball in the first 5-8 minutes and not turn it over.  our defense during that time is irrelevant, imo, because ku is going to get theirs, especially at home (my hope is that luis gets in foul trouble in the first 2 minutes of the game). we do that and it might end up being a ball game. 

[kso_FAN]

we have to score the ball in the first 5-8 minutes and not turn it over.  our defense during that time is irrelevant, imo, because ku is going to get theirs, especially at home (my hope is that luis gets in foul trouble in the first 2 minutes of the game). we do that and it might end up being a ball game. 

Agree that defense is pretty irrelevant, but we've got to play a little bit and not allow those ridic. 120+ efficiency numbers.  But I don't anticipate this turning into any sort of grinder like UT and MU, so if we don't score we will get run.

[mcmwcat]

they had a FTR of 61%, nearly double our FTR of 33%

 

I'd say the keys for us are to get into at least the mid-40% numbers for our own FTR without allowing them much more than what they had last time (I'm conceding that they'll have a higher FTR),

the only way we win is if we shoot just like OkSU did from 3.   we might have to do better than that because only in fantasy land will our FTR be in the same league as KU's in this game.

edit: TO and OR%ages will be huge as well.  (obvious)

[catzacker]

we have to score the ball in the first 5-8 minutes and not turn it over.  our defense during that time is irrelevant, imo, because ku is going to get theirs, especially at home (my hope is that luis gets in foul trouble in the first 2 minutes of the game). we do that and it might end up being a ball game. 

Agree that defense is pretty irrelevant, but we've got to play a little bit and not allow those ridic. 120+ efficiency numbers.  But I don't anticipate this turning into any sort of grinder like UT and MU, so if we don't score we will get run.

don't see this either, I'm thinking this gets into the 80's which is okay if we can hang.  the reason I hate Luis is that in games like this he brings nothing.  He's does not make cole work at all because everyone knows that luis is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) with the ball and allows cole to just sit in the paint, which negates anything we can do to get offense at the rim.  His defensive abilities don't make up for his offensive suckiness.  Hopefully Wally practiced good or whatever.  because a lineup w/ kelly, wally/jam, dom, denis, pullen is the only lineup that "matches" ku.

[kso_FAN]

don't see this either, I'm thinking this gets into the 80's which is okay if we can hang.  the reason I hate Luis is that in games like this he brings nothing.  He's does not make cole work at all because everyone knows that luis is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) with the ball and allows cole to just sit in the paint, which negates anything we can do to get offense at the rim.  His defensive abilities don't make up for his offensive suckiness.  Hopefully Wally practiced good or whatever.  because a lineup w/ kelly, wally/jam, dom, denis, pullen is the only lineup that "matches" ku.

I'm anticipating a "first team to 85 or 90" type of game. 

10 minutes of Lou defending Cole well/protecting the rim could be beneficial as long as we have other offensive options around him and Pullen/Clemente hit some 3s during that stretch. 

And we'll see on Wally, but I hope it is a good sign that he had the best game of his career against KU in Manhattan.

[pissclams]

don't see this either, I'm thinking this gets into the 80's which is okay if we can hang.  the reason I hate Luis is that in games like this he brings nothing.  He's does not make cole work at all because everyone knows that luis is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) with the ball and allows cole to just sit in the paint, which negates anything we can do to get offense at the rim.  His defensive abilities don't make up for his offensive suckiness.  Hopefully Wally practiced good or whatever.  because a lineup w/ kelly, wally/jam, dom, denis, pullen is the only lineup that "matches" ku.

I'm anticipating a "first team to 85 or 90" type of game. 

10 minutes of Lou defending Cole well/protecting the rim could be beneficial as long as we have other offensive options around him and Pullen/Clemente hit some 3s during that stretch. 

And we'll see on Wally, but I hope it is a good sign that he had the best game of his career against KU in Manhattan.

with all the crap luck we've had over the past 20 or so years, maybe the basketball Gods will throw us a bone tomorrow night.

[SleepFighter]

We're going to win.

[Johnny Wichita]

We are going to lose and I really don't care that much.  I am getting a kick out hearing my KU friends talk about how big of a game this is and how "jacked up" our players are going to be.