tiebreakers for the phillips 66?

[Andy]

who'd get the 1 seed if we tied?  TIA.

[Testy Westy]

its a draw out of the hat kind of thing

[OK_Cat]

 

it's a coin toss.  but we're not going to be tied, so don't worry about it.

[ArchE_Cat]

it's a coin toss.  but we're not going to be tied, so don't worry about it.

okie, don't you know that we are suddenly going to stop being k-state and that God himself informed Andy that murphy's law will no longer apply to us

[Andy]

it's a coin toss.  but we're not going to be tied, so don't worry about it.

okie, don't you know that we are suddenly going to stop being k-state and that God himself informed Andy that murphy's law will no longer apply to us

don't expect it, but was curious anyway

[Skipper44]

FWIW the B12 bracket generator on notnothing.net always gives KSU the number 1 seed based on the draw everytime I have mapped out our improbable run to tie for the title (basically, right after every game since 1/30/10)

[dmartin]

that's because the draw order is set alphabetically by default. 

[MakeItRain]

that's because the draw order is set alphabetically by default.  

So Kansas State is before Kansas alphabetically  don't breed

[OK_Cat]

pfffffffffft

[dmartin]

that's because the draw order is set alphabetically by default.  

So Kansas State is before Kansas alphabetically  don't breed

According to them, yes.  Notice OKState comes before Oklahoma, and both tech and ATM come before Texas.

[Skipper44]

I believe that site was created by an ISU fan, so it may be a blatant Land Grant/Ag school bias 

[8manpick]

So we win the tiebreaker as long as Tech and K-State tie for first, right? Because of the sweep of Baylor I think. Would be our first 1 seed in the Big XII tourney!

[catastrophe]

As long as it’s STRA1GHT, I don’t really care.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Short answer: Under any circumstance, if we finish tied with Tech - either we both lose or both win this weekend - we win the tiebreak due to our comparative records against Baylor.

Long answer for nerds.... Here is the rule. The first tie break is head to head, which leaves us tied. The next tiebreak is:

Each team’s record versus the team occupying the highest position in the final regular season standings, and then continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.

Ok, so who's the next team below Cats and Tech? That depends upon the KU v Baylor game this weekend. If KU (likely) wins, they're the next highest team and Tech and Cats are both 1-1 against them, so we move on to the next team. IF KU loses to Baylor, then those teams are tied so we have to go to the next piece of the tiebreak rule.

When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams [KU and Baylor] as a group (prior to that group’s own tiebreaking procedures), rather than the performance against individual tied teams. The lone exception to this guideline would be if there are only two tied teams in the group placement and one of the teams won both regular-season games.  In this instance, the tie is deemed broken and comparison of the seed rather than the placement will be utilized.

Ok, so KU and Baylor went 1-1 against each other, so we don't break that tie between them. Instead we compare the Cats and Tech's records against KU and Baylor collectively. Cats went 3-1 against those two teams. Tech went 2-2. So if Baylor beats KU this weekend, Cats win the tie break.

Alright, now let's circle back to the more likely scenario - KU beating Baylor. If that happens, the team directly below Cats and Tech is KU, and both our records against KU are 1-1. So we move on to the next team. The next highest team... again depends upon this weekend! If Tech beats ISU this weekend, the next highest team is Baylor. And we already know the Cats win that tiebreak.

But if ISU beats Tech (and we're assuming the Cats lose to OU - otherwise, none of this tiebreak stuff matters), then Baylor and ISU finish tied at 10-8. So now we've gotta go back to that tiebreak rule. More specifically, the last sentence of the tiebreak rule above, which says that since Baylor went 2-0 against ISU, we go ahead and break that tie first to determine the next highest team, rather than comparing the Cats and Tech's cumulative records against ISU and Baylor. So we're back to Baylor, and Cats win that tiebreak. 

[catastrophe]

Totally useless exercise but still enjoyed reading that KSUW!

[meow meow]

does someone have STRA1GHT shirts ready to print come Saturday night? 

[Justwin]

When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams [KU and Baylor] as a group (prior to that group’s own tiebreaking procedures), rather than the performance against individual tied teams. The lone exception to this guideline would be if there are only two tied teams in the group placement and one of the teams won both regular-season games.  In this instance, the tie is deemed broken and comparison of the seed rather than the placement will be utilized.

But if ISU beats Tech (and we're assuming the Cats lose to OU - otherwise, none of this tiebreak stuff matters), then Baylor and ISU finish tied at 10-8. So now we've gotta go back to that tiebreak rule. More specifically, the last sentence of the tiebreak rule above, which says that since Baylor went 2-0 against Tech Iowa State, we go ahead and break that tie first to determine the next highest team, rather than comparing the Cats and Tech's cumulative records against ISU and Baylor. So we're back to Baylor, and Cats win that tiebreak.

I think you meant Baylor went 2-0 against Iowa State to break that tie.

[8manpick]

Holy crap I mistook a KSU_W post for a kso_FAN post. Thanks _W

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I think you meant Baylor went 2-0 against Iowa State to break that tie.

Good catch. Fixed that above.

[brandochav]

Short answer: Under any circumstance, if we finish tied with Tech - either we both lose or both win this weekend - we win the tiebreak due to our comparative records against Baylor.

Long answer for nerds.... Here is the rule. The first tie break is head to head, which leaves us tied. The next tiebreak is:

Each team’s record versus the team occupying the highest position in the final regular season standings, and then continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.

Ok, so who's the next team below Cats and Tech? That depends upon the KU v Baylor game this weekend. If KU (likely) wins, they're the next highest team and Tech and Cats are both 1-1 against them, so we move on to the next team. IF KU loses to Baylor, then those teams are tied so we have to go to the next piece of the tiebreak rule.

When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams [KU and Baylor] as a group (prior to that group’s own tiebreaking procedures), rather than the performance against individual tied teams. The lone exception to this guideline would be if there are only two tied teams in the group placement and one of the teams won both regular-season games.  In this instance, the tie is deemed broken and comparison of the seed rather than the placement will be utilized.

Ok, so KU and Baylor went 1-1 against each other, so we don't break that tie between them. Instead we compare the Cats and Tech's records against KU and Baylor collectively. Cats went 3-1 against those two teams. Tech went 2-2. So if Baylor beats KU this weekend, Cats win the tie break.

Alright, now let's circle back to the more likely scenario - KU beating Baylor. If that happens, the team directly below Cats and Tech is KU, and both our records against KU are 1-1. So we move on to the next team. The next highest team... again depends upon this weekend! If Tech beats ISU this weekend, the next highest team is Baylor. And we already know the Cats win that tiebreak.

But if ISU beats Tech (and we're assuming the Cats lose to OU - otherwise, none of this tiebreak stuff matters), then Baylor and ISU finish tied at 10-8. So now we've gotta go back to that tiebreak rule. More specifically, the last sentence of the tiebreak rule above, which says that since Baylor went 2-0 against ISU, we go ahead and break that tie first to determine the next highest team, rather than comparing the Cats and Tech's cumulative records against ISU and Baylor. So we're back to Baylor, and Cats win that tiebreak.

Appreciate this write up.

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[Harry Dunne]

does someone have STRA1GHT shirts ready to print come Saturday night?

They’ll be ready.


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[mocat]

Short answer: Under any circumstance, if we finish tied with Tech - either we both lose or both win this weekend - we win the tiebreak due to our comparative records against Baylor.

Long answer for nerds.... Here is the rule. The first tie break is head to head, which leaves us tied. The next tiebreak is:

Each team’s record versus the team occupying the highest position in the final regular season standings, and then continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.

Ok, so who's the next team below Cats and Tech? That depends upon the KU v Baylor game this weekend. If KU (likely) wins, they're the next highest team and Tech and Cats are both 1-1 against them, so we move on to the next team. IF KU loses to Baylor, then those teams are tied so we have to go to the next piece of the tiebreak rule.

When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams [KU and Baylor] as a group (prior to that group’s own tiebreaking procedures), rather than the performance against individual tied teams. The lone exception to this guideline would be if there are only two tied teams in the group placement and one of the teams won both regular-season games.  In this instance, the tie is deemed broken and comparison of the seed rather than the placement will be utilized.

Ok, so KU and Baylor went 1-1 against each other, so we don't break that tie between them. Instead we compare the Cats and Tech's records against KU and Baylor collectively. Cats went 3-1 against those two teams. Tech went 2-2. So if Baylor beats KU this weekend, Cats win the tie break.

Alright, now let's circle back to the more likely scenario - KU beating Baylor. If that happens, the team directly below Cats and Tech is KU, and both our records against KU are 1-1. So we move on to the next team. The next highest team... again depends upon this weekend! If Tech beats ISU this weekend, the next highest team is Baylor. And we already know the Cats win that tiebreak.

But if ISU beats Tech (and we're assuming the Cats lose to OU - otherwise, none of this tiebreak stuff matters), then Baylor and ISU finish tied at 10-8. So now we've gotta go back to that tiebreak rule. More specifically, the last sentence of the tiebreak rule above, which says that since Baylor went 2-0 against ISU, we go ahead and break that tie first to determine the next highest team, rather than comparing the Cats and Tech's cumulative records against ISU and Baylor. So we're back to Baylor, and Cats win that tiebreak.

Would buy this shirt

[MakeItRain]

Short answer: Under any circumstance, if we finish tied with Tech - either we both lose or both win this weekend - we win the tiebreak due to our comparative records against Baylor.

Long answer for nerds.... Here is the rule. The first tie break is head to head, which leaves us tied. The next tiebreak is:

Each team’s record versus the team occupying the highest position in the final regular season standings, and then continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.

Ok, so who's the next team below Cats and Tech? That depends upon the KU v Baylor game this weekend. If KU (likely) wins, they're the next highest team and Tech and Cats are both 1-1 against them, so we move on to the next team. IF KU loses to Baylor, then those teams are tied so we have to go to the next piece of the tiebreak rule.

When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams [KU and Baylor] as a group (prior to that group’s own tiebreaking procedures), rather than the performance against individual tied teams. The lone exception to this guideline would be if there are only two tied teams in the group placement and one of the teams won both regular-season games.  In this instance, the tie is deemed broken and comparison of the seed rather than the placement will be utilized.

Ok, so KU and Baylor went 1-1 against each other, so we don't break that tie between them. Instead we compare the Cats and Tech's records against KU and Baylor collectively. Cats went 3-1 against those two teams. Tech went 2-2. So if Baylor beats KU this weekend, Cats win the tie break.

Alright, now let's circle back to the more likely scenario - KU beating Baylor. If that happens, the team directly below Cats and Tech is KU, and both our records against KU are 1-1. So we move on to the next team. The next highest team... again depends upon this weekend! If Tech beats ISU this weekend, the next highest team is Baylor. And we already know the Cats win that tiebreak.

But if ISU beats Tech (and we're assuming the Cats lose to OU - otherwise, none of this tiebreak stuff matters), then Baylor and ISU finish tied at 10-8. So now we've gotta go back to that tiebreak rule. More specifically, the last sentence of the tiebreak rule above, which says that since Baylor went 2-0 against ISU, we go ahead and break that tie first to determine the next highest team, rather than comparing the Cats and Tech's cumulative records against ISU and Baylor. So we're back to Baylor, and Cats win that tiebreak.

My God, lol

[PurpleOil]

Well... at least we'll know!