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« on: October 16, 2011, 03:57:28 PM »
this team lives to far on the margins to feel good about any game, even the ku game.

Hyper conservative play calling with opportunities to put games away, no break away threat of any kind at the RB position.  Which is sad given the creases and the way our O-Line can fold D-Lines up, a real D1 running back would have had 6 or 7 long TD runs in the last 4 games.   Thus Klein could even be a better weapon than he is in the running game, and play action passing would be even more effective.    Angelo Pease looks like he's running in sand dunes out there. 

While the defense does step up and makes plays, they still have the ability to get absolutely clown suited out there at times with guys diving at ankles, completely out of position and taking horrible pursuit angles. 

Next Saturday could very well decide Turner Gills fate at ku, in the first half against OU Webb put several long passes right on the money that should have been caught, and you have to ask in what game will Chuck Long FINALLY call a good game, the entire game.  IF that happens, ku will be a handful for anybody.   Albeit I will say that OU's red zone play calling was laughable at times last night as well. 


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Re: Nope . . .
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2011, 04:01:00 PM »
stick to bitching about tim weiser.

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Re: Nope . . .
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2011, 04:12:11 PM »
Snyder knows what the tucks want. We'll win by more than OU did.

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Re: Nope . . .
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2011, 04:17:43 PM »
Nice try, but your heart wasn't in it.  Maybe next time?   :cheers:

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Re: Nope . . .
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2011, 04:32:26 PM »
Dax is 100% right. We almost lost to EKU. We are capable of losing to anyone.

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Re: Nope . . .
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2011, 04:51:01 PM »
Dax is 100% right. We almost lost to EKU. We are capable of losing to anyone.

anyone else ever get _33 and Dax confused? i do it all the time and it really bothers me.

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Re: Nope . . .
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2011, 05:20:29 PM »
really hate the no breakaway RB talking point.  Its proven pretty worthless.  He has great game speed and good acceleration.  Yeah he got caught once in the Miami game by a team of freaking race horses, we haven't had that kind of opportunity in conference games to get him that open. 
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Re: Nope . . .
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2011, 05:33:07 PM »
really hate the no breakaway RB talking point.  Its proven pretty worthless.  He has great game speed and good acceleration.  Yeah he got caught once in the Miami game by a team of freaking race horses, we haven't had that kind of opportunity in conference games to get him that open. 

I like Hubert.  He's not an elite back, but he's more than serviceable for this offense much like Lawrence or Hickson were during the DOD.

Tough runner who doesn't fumble.  Got no complaints with his play so far.
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2011, 05:45:47 PM »
I like Hubert as well, he does some nice cut back running, he hangs on to the ball.   Just pining for a "home run" threat at RB.

Clearly the take aways have improved, we blow up more plays which is good, but there are moments of deja vu all over again. 

But I am more than happy to ride along with the Scheme Doctor and see what happens.




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Re: Nope . . .
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2011, 05:46:12 PM »
this team lives to far on the margins to feel good about any game, even the ku game.

Hyper conservative play calling with opportunities to put games away, no break away threat of any kind at the RB position.  Which is sad given the creases and the way our O-Line can fold D-Lines up, a real D1 running back would have had 6 or 7 long TD runs in the last 4 games.   Thus Klein could even be a better weapon than he is in the running game, and play action passing would be even more effective.    Angelo Pease looks like he's running in sand dunes out there. 

While the defense does step up and makes plays, they still have the ability to get absolutely clown suited out there at times with guys diving at ankles, completely out of position and taking horrible pursuit angles. 

Next Saturday could very well decide Turner Gills fate at ku, in the first half against OU Webb put several long passes right on the money that should have been caught, and you have to ask in what game will Chuck Long FINALLY call a good game, the entire game.  IF that happens, ku will be a handful for anybody.   Albeit I will say that OU's red zone play calling was laughable at times last night as well. 


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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2011, 06:50:42 PM »
I would have liked to see us adjust earlier (or at least have planned a bit better) for Tech's emphasis on run defense. However, those 2 or 3 yards runs in the first half turned into 7 or 8 yard runs in the second. And since we were only down by 8 at half, and won the second 21-6, Snyds' strategy paid off. Certainly made great adjustments for that first drive of the second half.

Things that give me hope we won't lay a turd this weekend are: 

1) Snyds' hatred of KU. (But didn't help in 2004).
2) KU decent performance against OU, at least in first half. They clearly "got up" for that game. Easier to take seriously than if they'd gotten completely rolled again.
3) The way we finished the game, not scoring after the two turnovers and then giving up the onsides. Gives Snyds something to harp on that's fresh in their minds.
4) Line moving KU's way so quickly. Still some disrespect card and helps counteract the big opening spread, to the extent it may affect anything.
 

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Re: Nope . . .
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2011, 07:12:21 PM »
Jfc we could win the NC and dax would bitch that we got lucky in a down year.
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Re: Nope . . .
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2011, 07:40:34 PM »
dax has his eyes on the prize

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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2011, 07:42:30 PM »
Jfc we could win the NC and dax would bitch that we got lucky in a down year.

No. Just cause we are 6-0 doesn't mean we don't have any weaknesses.

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Re: Nope . . .
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2011, 08:20:17 PM »
We could just as easily be 2-4

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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2011, 08:26:31 PM »
We could just as easily be 2-4

Yep. Oh man, KU is going to beat us aren't they? What if they do? I didn't want to care this season. Why are you doing this to me Wildcats?

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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2011, 10:34:30 PM »
We could just as easily be 2-4

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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2011, 03:07:31 AM »
rewatching the game.  hubes had a great run at 1:45 in the 3rd and I'm remembering his long run @ Miami where people criticized him for lack of break away, coming after a few grinding runs.
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2011, 06:09:54 AM »
We could just as easily be 2-4

this is a fair statement.  We've won once with any type of comfort (Kent State), every other game wasn't really decided until we lined up in the victory formation with under a minute (or so) remaining in the game.  that doesn't lend itself to thinking that this game will be any different than the previous 5 of 6 games. 

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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2011, 06:28:36 AM »
I think it's possible that little bro could Super Bowl their way to a tie or maybe touchdown lead at halftime, especially if they gameplan around AB like Tech did. Long can at least put together a decent gameplan for a half or so like dax said. However, Dr. Schemes is going to run circles around Gill and co. in the third quarter so fast it will be embarrassing. KU has made no halftime adjustments whatsoever this year and you can almost predict three scores on our end in the third regardless of whether we're up or not. If I had to put money on a KITN game, it'd be ISTATE0, not this one. Rhoads can at least coach worth a damn.
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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2011, 09:16:20 AM »
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especially if they gameplan around AB like Tech did.

I haven't seen Gill coach around any other players.....ever.  I'd be  :sdeek: if they did.

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Re: Nope . . .
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2011, 09:19:19 AM »
Coaching around AB wasn't very difficult last week.  Might not be difficult this week either.

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Re: Nope . . .
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2011, 09:29:34 AM »
We could just as easily be 2-4

wouldn't it be easier to be 2-4? wouldn't have had to do all that work on defense in the 4th.

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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2011, 09:35:06 AM »
The key is going to be how we start the game.  KU seems like they start pretty fast and fade as a game goes along.  We have a tendancy to start slow on offense.  IF we can get an couple of early stops and at least one early score then I think we roll.  If KU scores early then it will probably be a four quarter game or at least a game into the second  half.  

From a matchup point of view it really favors us.  We run the ball and KU is off the charts awful against the run.  Their biggest threat on offense is their running game and we defend the run pretty well.  When you take away KU's run game their offense seems to wilt.    They will have the worst offense and the worst defense we've seen in the last four games.  It will also be the first game in the last 4 where the other team won't have a speed adavantage.   EVerything points in our favor for this game but I'm still nervous for some reason.  

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« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2011, 03:04:13 PM »
We could just as easily be 2-4

this is a fair statement.  We've won once with any type of comfort (Kent State), every other game wasn't really decided until we lined up in the victory formation with under a minute (or so) remaining in the game.  that doesn't lend itself to thinking that this game will be any different than the previous 5 of 6 games. 

is ku much better than kent?