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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2011, 12:20:03 AM »
the fighting wildshats- 41

RG3 and co.-38

the field is then rushed

top 10 dumbest prediction in the history of KSU message boards

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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2011, 01:16:40 AM »
the fighting wildshats- 41

RG3 and co.-38

the field is then rushed

top 10 dumbest prediction in the history of KSU message boards

How effing embarrassing would that be though? Good Gawd that would suck.
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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2011, 03:48:42 AM »
K-State 62
Baylor 34

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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2011, 07:16:14 AM »
Bear Aggies: 45
Wild Wildcats: 24
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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2011, 09:17:23 AM »
Guys, there is really no rough ridin' way we lose this game.  No rough ridin' way.

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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2011, 10:38:08 AM »
Bears 28
BearKHATZ 31

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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2011, 10:41:57 AM »
mobbin kats - 35
bear cultists - 20

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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2011, 10:42:58 AM »
I am watching this one at home.  Or should I Houli-pak it?

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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #58 on: September 30, 2011, 10:45:34 AM »
Qats - 34

Burs- 28





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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #59 on: September 30, 2011, 10:55:01 AM »
CATS 45

bears 27

Klein and Hubert grind out a combined 300 yds.

Arthut and company w/ 3 sacks and 2 oskies

Sean gets the special teams going, 1 big return

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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #60 on: September 30, 2011, 11:09:15 AM »
K-State 38
Baylor  27
Academics is a stupid word.

Academic schools are synonymous for being rich, powerful and exclusive, three things Kansas State is not.

So when people throw the word "academics" around, that's really what they are referencing.

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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #61 on: September 30, 2011, 11:09:47 AM »
Greg Roberts w/ Consensus 900 just said the wrong team is favored in this one.  Took the Cats straight up.   :driving:

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« Reply #62 on: September 30, 2011, 11:14:54 AM »
Greg Roberts w/ Consensus 900 just said the wrong team is favored in this one.  Took the Cats straight up.   :driving:

Baylor's running D is their achillies. They escaped a home game shootout vs. the only team with a running game and D to speak of.  SHould have lost after being down 15.. but RGIII had a career night.

Baylor is on the road so their offense will still be good..but not record setting...It'll be a nail biter going in the 4th quarter.

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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #63 on: September 30, 2011, 11:15:17 AM »
We can't pressure the QB. The QB we are playing has more TD's than incompletions. How are we going to win?

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« Reply #64 on: September 30, 2011, 11:34:11 AM »
We can't pressure the QB. The QB we are playing has more TD's than incompletions. How are we going to win?

 :facepalm:

1) if you can stop the running game with only your front 7 personnel then pressuring the QB is less significant.  We're more concerned about contain than outright pressure.

2) He has more TDs than incompletions because a) he's played Rice and Sam Houston (not to mention TCU's defense is nothing special this year if you've seen their other games) and b) they use a lot of bubble screens.  Their run game is more of a demand for lesser defenses so it requires more help from the back 7.  He's been throwing long more this year than in previous years but see a and part of b for that reasoning.  Still, if you employ bubble screens as a strong part of your offense you're still going to get a lot of completions.  Getting big yards on those types of plays is easier vs. Rice and Sam Houston than vs KState.

3) I guess you didn't see Baylor play against teams with winning records last year.  Illinois, Ok State, and aTm really had their way with them and Baylor has the same personnel less a potential 1st-2nd round receiver that left the team shortly before the season and a 1st rd pick playing at LT last year. 

4) Never underestimate what a defense can do when they're strong up the middle (we are strong at nose, mike, and safeties) and have LBs that can make plays in space in both the running game and passing game (we have those capabilities).

Academics is a stupid word.

Academic schools are synonymous for being rich, powerful and exclusive, three things Kansas State is not.

So when people throw the word "academics" around, that's really what they are referencing.

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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #65 on: September 30, 2011, 11:44:44 AM »
Why did you facepalm me?

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« Reply #66 on: September 30, 2011, 12:00:44 PM »
Why did you facepalm me?

I apologize. 

Defending solid QBs isn't just about rushing the passer.  If you start eliminating other things they can do (like their run game or RG3's effectiveness leaving the pocket) you funnel that offense into a set of limitations from which they will be forced to operate the remainder of the game.  If you look, statistically, in recent seasons at many of the better defenses they are not necessarily great, shoot, some would not even be considered good at rushing the passer.  And it's not just about the front 4 bringing pressure.  Trust me, if we eliminate their running game with our front 7 personnel and we're effective at cutting off RG3's emergency lanes then you're going to handcuff him and his offense. 

Alabama is a great example...they systematically start removing things you can do offensively without generating great pressure on the QB...some years they are better than others.

That being said, it's always FAVORABLE to have a pass rush because you don't have to be quite as sound in other areas.  But take away a few things and the offense starts becoming handicapped.

Academics is a stupid word.

Academic schools are synonymous for being rich, powerful and exclusive, three things Kansas State is not.

So when people throw the word "academics" around, that's really what they are referencing.

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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #67 on: September 30, 2011, 12:38:05 PM »

1) if you can stop the running game with only your front 7 personnel then pressuring the QB is less significant.  We're more concerned about contain than outright pressure.


I understand this concept, but I've been scratching my head all week because Harris just stood backed there and picked us apart when we did that.  Seems like there needs to be some way to pressure the QB into mistakes.  What I ultimately decided on is that our approach was to try to make them eventually beat themselves by making them run a lot of plays and to just keep them from scoring on big plays.  Of course if that was the strategy we didn't execute it.  :dunno:
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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #68 on: September 30, 2011, 12:39:33 PM »


Cheesy Mustache QB might make an appearance.

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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #69 on: September 30, 2011, 01:00:35 PM »
when it's all said and done, it's still BAYLOR. our cat's got this. it's at home.  :lynchmob:

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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #70 on: September 30, 2011, 01:10:56 PM »
Why did you facepalm me?

I apologize. 

Defending solid QBs isn't just about rushing the passer.  If you start eliminating other things they can do (like their run game or RG3's effectiveness leaving the pocket) you funnel that offense into a set of limitations from which they will be forced to operate the remainder of the game.  If you look, statistically, in recent seasons at many of the better defenses they are not necessarily great, shoot, some would not even be considered good at rushing the passer.  And it's not just about the front 4 bringing pressure.  Trust me, if we eliminate their running game with our front 7 personnel and we're effective at cutting off RG3's emergency lanes then you're going to handcuff him and his offense. 

Alabama is a great example...they systematically start removing things you can do offensively without generating great pressure on the QB...some years they are better than others.

That being said, it's always FAVORABLE to have a pass rush because you don't have to be quite as sound in other areas.  But take away a few things and the offense starts becoming handicapped.



Oh, OK. It just seemed like an impressive statistic.

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« Reply #71 on: September 30, 2011, 01:49:48 PM »

1) if you can stop the running game with only your front 7 personnel then pressuring the QB is less significant.  We're more concerned about contain than outright pressure.


I understand this concept, but I've been scratching my head all week because Harris just stood backed there and picked us apart when we did that.  Seems like there needs to be some way to pressure the QB into mistakes.  What I ultimately decided on is that our approach was to try to make them eventually beat themselves by making them run a lot of plays and to just keep them from scoring on big plays.  Of course if that was the strategy we didn't execute it.  :dunno:

we had more assistance up near the line once Miller popped one on us.  Even before that we had some help near the line in certain situations.  And we played with a double digit lead for a large portion of the game.  We played some of that game on the side of caution with corners off the line 10 yards and backpedaling at the snap.  We conceded some deep middle stuff and he did hange a nice one over A. Brown on a deep seam with the TE.

It surprises me that people think Harris can't throw...he averaged 270 per game passing last season and is a senior.  He was going to get his.  The thing people get fixated on with Harris is that he's turnover prone, and he is...but he'll get his yards down the field as well. 

I don't think Baylor is suiting up anybody at RB this week that scares the hell out of us nor is their ground game considered to be that of Miami, not straight up at least.

Remember, too, that QBs have a clock in their heads before they start looking for more room to buy time.  Once he moves in the pocket or away from the pocket the dynamics of the pass blocking change.  Pressure can materialize from that movement.  Again, the biggest key is to stop the run with the front 7 and CONTAIN him to the pocket.  I think we would much rather him throw in the pocket vs. 7 then get out of the pocket.
Academics is a stupid word.

Academic schools are synonymous for being rich, powerful and exclusive, three things Kansas State is not.

So when people throw the word "academics" around, that's really what they are referencing.

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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #72 on: September 30, 2011, 06:14:46 PM »
fake punt

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« Reply #73 on: October 01, 2011, 07:43:46 PM »
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Re: Official Baylor Predictos
« Reply #74 on: October 01, 2011, 07:51:25 PM »
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