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Re: Who replaces Hartman?
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2011, 06:33:05 PM »
#31 Milo will grow on you. He's my super sleep pick.

HS teammate of Tre's too.

Incorrect, milo played at Olathe Northwest his sophomore and junior years. His senior year he transferred to Olathe North where tre was a sophomore but had to sit out due to transfer rules and never even practiced with the team.

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Milo transferred because he was upset with Todd Dain's overall player development and recruiting practices, he wasn't very aggressive in getting his players prepared to play at the next level or recruited as opposed to the staff at North like Flood, Catloth and McCall who served as assistants under Weir. Weir was responsible for players like Darren Sproles, Maurice Mack, and Arland oscar. All Simone winners.

Definitely a sound decision by milo but he should have made it earlier and he probably wouldn't have had to make his detour to Butler or had the family situation he has now. Judging from past experience he definitely has the speed to play safety but the speed of other players at the D1 level will probably catch him off guard at first.

Tre on the other hand is going to develop into a leader on defense, he has a headstrong mentality that is strangely very very focused and he has no problems assuming the leader role. Although not our biggest star, being on the same team as him was interesting to say the least.

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Re: Who replaces Hartman?
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2011, 09:15:22 PM »
Because Tysyn plays "the right way" Bill will leave his rough ridin' ass in there to get burned the entire rough ridin' game.  This is why I'm not excited for Saturday.  It doesn't take a football genius to rewatch KSU tape are realize where our weakness is.  Bill won't change a god damn thing.  He cares more about "the family" than winning rough ridin' games.  Anyone who wants to argue this go look at who are ST coach is and STFU.  :bang: :bang:

I don't think Tysyn plays the "right way", and I think Cosh is in charge of defensive personnel decisions. We are pretty thin at safety, if you look at the depth chart.

I don't care if we have to put a back up WR back there and tell him just to play centerfield, it's better than Tysyn.  The guy does not have the physical tools to compete.  His knee is still completely shot.  When he goes to make a tackle he has to completely stop, then breakdown.  By then the WR has veered slightly and Tysyn does that damn bend at the waist and dive at his feet to try to tackle crap.  I don't care who makes the personnel decisions, Bill is the HC and by letting Cosh play him is giving him his blessing.  Bill has every right to pull Hartman.  But none of this matters.  They left Tysyn in the entire 2nd half against Miami, and he will play the entire game on Saturday. 

I think you're exaggerating.

Yeah, I'd agree. Hartman made some mistakes, namely the angle (and perhaps alignment) on Miller's long run and a miscommunication on the time Streeter got open over the top but Harris missed him. But overall I didn't think he played terrible. Snyder has always shown he'll play the best combination of talent and knowing what you are doing, Pearson simply hasn't done enough to overtake Hartman. I have no doubt he likely has more talent, hopefully he continues to improve on his knowledge of the scheme.
Arthur Brown misreading the play had a lot to do with Miller's long run too. 

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Re: Who replaces Hartman?
« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2011, 09:41:45 PM »
Because Tysyn plays "the right way" Bill will leave his rough ridin' ass in there to get burned the entire rough ridin' game.  This is why I'm not excited for Saturday.  It doesn't take a football genius to rewatch KSU tape are realize where our weakness is.  Bill won't change a god damn thing.  He cares more about "the family" than winning rough ridin' games.  Anyone who wants to argue this go look at who are ST coach is and STFU.  :bang: :bang:

I don't think Tysyn plays the "right way", and I think Cosh is in charge of defensive personnel decisions. We are pretty thin at safety, if you look at the depth chart.

I don't care if we have to put a back up WR back there and tell him just to play centerfield, it's better than Tysyn.  The guy does not have the physical tools to compete.  His knee is still completely shot.  When he goes to make a tackle he has to completely stop, then breakdown.  By then the WR has veered slightly and Tysyn does that damn bend at the waist and dive at his feet to try to tackle crap.  I don't care who makes the personnel decisions, Bill is the HC and by letting Cosh play him is giving him his blessing.  Bill has every right to pull Hartman.  But none of this matters.  They left Tysyn in the entire 2nd half against Miami, and he will play the entire game on Saturday. 

I think you're exaggerating.

Yeah, I'd agree. Hartman made some mistakes, namely the angle (and perhaps alignment) on Miller's long run and a miscommunication on the time Streeter got open over the top but Harris missed him. But overall I didn't think he played terrible. Snyder has always shown he'll play the best combination of talent and knowing what you are doing, Pearson simply hasn't done enough to overtake Hartman. I have no doubt he likely has more talent, hopefully he continues to improve on his knowledge of the scheme.
Arthur Brown misreading the play had a lot to do with Miller's long run too. 

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Believe it Sabination, believe it. 

Arthur read it right originally, but it looked like he thought it was going to be a playfake and rushed to the opposite edge in anticipation of a bootleg.  By the time he reacted it was too late.


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Re: Who replaces Hartman?
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2011, 09:44:34 PM »
Because Tysyn plays "the right way" Bill will leave his rough ridin' ass in there to get burned the entire rough ridin' game.  This is why I'm not excited for Saturday.  It doesn't take a football genius to rewatch KSU tape are realize where our weakness is.  Bill won't change a god damn thing.  He cares more about "the family" than winning rough ridin' games.  Anyone who wants to argue this go look at who are ST coach is and STFU.  :bang: :bang:

I don't think Tysyn plays the "right way", and I think Cosh is in charge of defensive personnel decisions. We are pretty thin at safety, if you look at the depth chart.

I don't care if we have to put a back up WR back there and tell him just to play centerfield, it's better than Tysyn.  The guy does not have the physical tools to compete.  His knee is still completely shot.  When he goes to make a tackle he has to completely stop, then breakdown.  By then the WR has veered slightly and Tysyn does that damn bend at the waist and dive at his feet to try to tackle crap.  I don't care who makes the personnel decisions, Bill is the HC and by letting Cosh play him is giving him his blessing.  Bill has every right to pull Hartman.  But none of this matters.  They left Tysyn in the entire 2nd half against Miami, and he will play the entire game on Saturday. 

I think you're exaggerating.

Yeah, I'd agree. Hartman made some mistakes, namely the angle (and perhaps alignment) on Miller's long run and a miscommunication on the time Streeter got open over the top but Harris missed him. But overall I didn't think he played terrible. Snyder has always shown he'll play the best combination of talent and knowing what you are doing, Pearson simply hasn't done enough to overtake Hartman. I have no doubt he likely has more talent, hopefully he continues to improve on his knowledge of the scheme.
Arthur Brown misreading the play had a lot to do with Miller's long run too. 

Not possible. Refuse to believe this happened
Believe it Sabination, believe it. 

Arthur read it right originally, but it looked like he thought it was going to be a playfake and rushed to the opposite edge in anticipation of a bootleg.  By the time he reacted it was too late.
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Re: Who replaces Hartman?
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2011, 05:06:47 PM »
eff this guy.  Tetuan thinks he needs to step his game up.
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Re: Who replaces Hartman?
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2011, 05:12:09 PM »
Post injury Marcus Watts thinks he's slow.

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Re: Who replaces Hartman?
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2011, 06:18:29 PM »
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Re: Who replaces Hartman?
« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2011, 10:14:43 AM »
Bump as a reminder of this important factor. Pearson and Milo better be warming up.
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Re: Who replaces Hartman?
« Reply #33 on: October 08, 2011, 10:15:26 AM »
Hartman is fairly good against the run.  will be important today. 

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Re: Who replaces Hartman?
« Reply #34 on: October 08, 2011, 10:18:37 AM »
Hartman is fairly good against the run.  will be important today. 

Really? I think he's good at taking up space and diving at knees. I hope Pinkel isn't scheming the seem routes and posts....we'll find out.
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Re: Who replaces Hartman?
« Reply #35 on: October 08, 2011, 10:20:13 AM »
Hartman is fairly good against the run.  will be important today. 

Really? I think he's good at taking up space and diving at knees. I hope Pinkel isn't scheming the seem routes and posts....we'll find out.

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Re: Who replaces Hartman?
« Reply #36 on: October 09, 2011, 01:55:36 PM »
Hartman had a good game  :D