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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #50 on: September 26, 2011, 11:30:42 AM »
While fully understanding that K-State didn't want Harris running around all over the place back there, so there was a decided effort to keep him in the pocket, there's no way a 3 man rush from this K-State defense gets any kind of pressure.

Plus, who here can be impressed with any blitz package that Chris Cosh has designed since being back at K-State??    

1) spy
2) deep zone


1) yes, specifically arthur and tre
2) not only no but eff no

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #51 on: September 26, 2011, 11:42:15 AM »
While fully understanding that K-State didn't want Harris running around all over the place back there, so there was a decided effort to keep him in the pocket, there's no way a 3 man rush from this K-State defense gets any kind of pressure.

Plus, who here can be impressed with any blitz package that Chris Cosh has designed since being back at K-State??    

1) spy
2) deep zone


1) yes, specifically arthur and tre
2) not only no but eff no

Sometimes, you know the hurricane is coming.  You can't stop it.  You can't run from it.  You have to board up your windows and ride it out and hope to God you don't get blown away.

Well, Baylor will get their yards.  They'll have big plays.  They're going to have 20+ yard pass plays in bunches.  What we can do is stop their run game with a limited number of people and drop a lot of guys back to stop the big plays.  That's why Hatter suggests the deep zone.  Once we get them in a shorter field, we can condense it with our zone and make it harder for Griffin to exploit weaknesses, and we'll most likely be able to hold their run game with minimal front seven support.  We will most likely be able to drop five or six guys into coverage and man up on the receivers.

Get Griffin into the South End Zone.  Crank up the noise.  Mix up the zone.  Hope to God he throws a pick.

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #52 on: September 26, 2011, 11:53:44 AM »
While fully understanding that K-State didn't want Harris running around all over the place back there, so there was a decided effort to keep him in the pocket, there's no way a 3 man rush from this K-State defense gets any kind of pressure.

Plus, who here can be impressed with any blitz package that Chris Cosh has designed since being back at K-State??    

1) spy
2) deep zone


1) yes, specifically arthur and tre
2) not only no but eff no

Sometimes, you know the hurricane is coming.  You can't stop it.  You can't run from it.  You have to board up your windows and ride it out and hope to God you don't get blown away.

Well, Baylor will get their yards.  They'll have big plays.  They're going to have 20+ yard pass plays in bunches.  What we can do is stop their run game with a limited number of people and drop a lot of guys back to stop the big plays.  That's why Hatter suggests the deep zone.  Once we get them in a shorter field, we can condense it with our zone and make it harder for Griffin to exploit weaknesses, and we'll most likely be able to hold their run game with minimal front seven support.  We will most likely be able to drop five or six guys into coverage and man up on the receivers.

Get Griffin into the South End Zone.  Crank up the noise.  Mix up the zone.  Hope to God he throws a pick.
first off agreed, secondly i think if we play deep zone we are gonna get gashed for 20-30 yds a play, dudes that good and his receivers arent bad either

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #53 on: September 26, 2011, 11:57:33 AM »
While fully understanding that K-State didn't want Harris running around all over the place back there, so there was a decided effort to keep him in the pocket, there's no way a 3 man rush from this K-State defense gets any kind of pressure.

Plus, who here can be impressed with any blitz package that Chris Cosh has designed since being back at K-State??    

1) spy
2) deep zone


1) yes, specifically arthur and tre
2) not only no but eff no

Sometimes, you know the hurricane is coming.  You can't stop it.  You can't run from it.  You have to board up your windows and ride it out and hope to God you don't get blown away.

Well, Baylor will get their yards.  They'll have big plays.  They're going to have 20+ yard pass plays in bunches.  What we can do is stop their run game with a limited number of people and drop a lot of guys back to stop the big plays.  That's why Hatter suggests the deep zone.  Once we get them in a shorter field, we can condense it with our zone and make it harder for Griffin to exploit weaknesses, and we'll most likely be able to hold their run game with minimal front seven support.  We will most likely be able to drop five or six guys into coverage and man up on the receivers.

Get Griffin into the South End Zone.  Crank up the noise.  Mix up the zone.  Hope to God he throws a pick.
first off agreed, secondly i think if we play deep zone we are gonna get gashed for 20-30 yds a play, dudes that good and his receivers arent bad either

I'd rather have them gain 600 yards of offense and give up 34 points than give up 600 yards and 49 points.

Because I feel pretty confident we'll end up scoring at least 38 points.

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #54 on: September 26, 2011, 11:59:40 AM »
so are you in the bend but dont break crowd? im personally in the hit him in his rough ridin' legs crowd myself

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #55 on: September 26, 2011, 12:09:36 PM »
so are you in the bend but dont break crowd? im personally in the hit him in his rough ridin' legs crowd myself

Yes.

Griffin is the best player in the country right now.  He has a 236 passing efficiency rating.  He's averaging over ten yards per play on offense.  He'll get yards.

Stop him from getting points.

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #56 on: September 26, 2011, 01:00:15 PM »
Im going to start the "Bend then when you think we might break smash his knee crowd"

And there is almost no chance we get pressure on him with anything less than 5 pass rushers judging from the game saturday.  Good thing their run game cant hold the U's jock strap. 

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #57 on: September 26, 2011, 01:02:23 PM »
so are you in the bend but dont break crowd? im personally in the hit him in his rough ridin' legs crowd myself

I'm in the hit him in the legs crowd too. But only if done discretely ala Pollard on Brady.

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #58 on: September 26, 2011, 01:15:17 PM »
so are you in the bend but dont break crowd? im personally in the hit him in his rough ridin' legs crowd myself

I'm in the hit him in the legs crowd too. But only if done discretely ala Pollard on Brady.

im not, as long as its a player like hrebec, send the nation a message. we are not to be messed with, do you remember the crouch head turner? thats right it turned more heads than just his

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #59 on: September 26, 2011, 01:21:02 PM »
We've done this before, recently. Concussing Colt McCoy and starting a run of dominance over lil' bro Tejas.  It's time we do the same to Baylor.
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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #60 on: September 26, 2011, 01:35:28 PM »
We are helped tremendously this year compared to last simply by having Brown, Walker, and Lamur at LB to run down Griffin and Baylor's RBs. IMHO you have to limit their running game first and eliminate the big runs. Miller's TD vs Miami is the only run we've allowed over 20 yards this year. Then you do what you can against the pass, keep Griffin in the pocket as much as possible, and when you have opportunities to hit him make sure you do. The post that said limit red zone opportunities to FGs is a big one too. Baylor will not have the ability nor the speed on defense that Miami had, so I think we should be able to put up plenty of points.

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #61 on: September 26, 2011, 01:58:15 PM »
Rush 10 and drop Arthur into coverage to pick 6 him if he gets a pass off

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #62 on: September 26, 2011, 01:59:29 PM »
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Did Miami expose our safeties?  Not really.

Hartman got burned repeatedly in the second half.

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #63 on: September 26, 2011, 02:02:47 PM »
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Did Miami expose our safeties?  Not really.

Hartman got burned repeatedly in the second half.

We were loading the box to stop the run. I wouldn't call that exposing the safeties, so much as having a defensive scheme that was taken advantage of.

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #64 on: September 26, 2011, 02:19:36 PM »
Collectively, do we have the fastest set of linebackers in the country?  I looked through Baylor's opponents and a few others like Miami, LSU, and Texas last night and we're faster than all of them.

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #65 on: September 26, 2011, 02:22:30 PM »
Collectively, do we have the fastest set of linebackers in the country?  I looked through Baylor's opponents and a few others like Miami, LSU, and Texas last night and we're faster than all of them.

yes.  I've nicknamed our LB crew the corvettes.


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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #66 on: September 26, 2011, 02:23:53 PM »
Collectively, do we have the fastest set of linebackers in the country?  I looked through Baylor's opponents and a few others like Miami, LSU, and Texas last night and we're faster than all of them.

yes.  I've nicknamed our LB crew the corvettes.

I was thinking ifweweren'tlinebackersandwereabitsmallerwe'dbescatbacks as their nickname.

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #67 on: September 26, 2011, 02:24:25 PM »
Collectively, do we have the fastest set of linebackers in the country?  I looked through Baylor's opponents and a few others like Miami, LSU, and Texas last night and we're faster than all of them.

yes.  I've nicknamed our LB crew the corvettes.

Arthur and the 'vettes

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #68 on: September 26, 2011, 02:50:29 PM »
Collectively, do we have the fastest set of linebackers in the country?  I looked through Baylor's opponents and a few others like Miami, LSU, and Texas last night and we're faster than all of them.

yes.  I've nicknamed our LB crew the corvettes.

After the week in Miami I prefer to call them the Lambo's.

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #69 on: September 26, 2011, 05:09:54 PM »


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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #70 on: September 26, 2011, 05:17:37 PM »
Toss a dead Hooker in his room the night before and put a word in to RCPD.

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #71 on: September 26, 2011, 05:20:31 PM »
Toss a dead Hooker in his room the night before and put a word in to RCPD.

Two live ones, some blow, and instructions that they are not to let him go to sleep.

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #72 on: September 26, 2011, 05:28:35 PM »
Toss a dead Hooker in his room the night before and put a word in to RCPD.

If calling the RCPD is the plan, just send up two 19 year olds with booze. Much more likely to respond/arrest/taze/beat the crap out of him.

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #73 on: September 26, 2011, 05:28:56 PM »
Guys, we NEED his phone number.

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Re: RG3: How would you scheme for him??
« Reply #74 on: September 26, 2011, 08:10:03 PM »
JFC have we regressed that bad as a team that we are worried about rough ridin' Baylor!  :curse:... and at home on top of that.  I'm betting on the KATZ, how bout U?  :ksu:
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